Here I thought precedent mattered in legal questions....Ok. Try to stay focused for a second. Seems you're commenting on Jan 6 and the QAnon Shaman. Try to avoid references to BLM, TDS, antifa, Code Pink or anything else that's wholly irrelevant. Challenge my facts if they're wrong, but don't veer off into the Land of Fallacy and False Equivalence:
And he was charged with parading and obstructing Congress. Something that lefty loons have been doing for at least 2 decades and they are arrested and put back onto the street.
- The Shaman was one of the first to illegally enter the United States Capitol while Congress was certifying the election of a new president.
Wasn't charged with using a deadly weapon.
- He carried a spear.
Wasn't charged with incitement.
- He used a bullhorn, was inciting the crowd and was acting as a leader.
I had not heard that. I know that some others did that day. Should be looked into to see how credible the threat was. Also should be treated like threats against the Supreme Court (which happened after 1/6) when RvW was overturned (or about to be.)
- He left a threatening note for Mike Pence.
So threatening they had him separated from the group and didn't quietly arrest him away from everyone else when they had him outnumbered 9 or 10 to 1 when he was getting his guided cop tour right to the Senate floor. I don't think he was perceived as dangerous as you want to say. Crazy? Totally. You don't let a dangerous person roam around when you have an easy chance to arrest him or escort him to an area where he is easier to lock down as opposed to an area where "the leader" gets a "leader" moment to rile up his followers. With thia guy in particular, the rhetoric doesn't logically follow the actions.
- He was shirtless on a cold January day. He dressed, looked and talked like someone who was unstable and was understandably perceived by cops as a threat.
That is fair when a big crowd is present. 2 or 3 cops walked this guy, by himself, past 6 to 8 other cops who were in riot gear while they were taking him to the Senate floor. If this dude was a true leader, they could have arrested him and squirreled him away to a secure area and next to noone would have known he was gone.
- Tom Manger, Chief of the Capitol Police, said that law enforcement, who were badly outnumbered by the mob, engaged him in an effort to de-escalate a dangerous situation that was quickly spiraling out of control.
Yeah
- He was subsequently arrested.
Mmhmm
- He was represented by counsel.
After almost a year in solitary confinement. "Sign your confession or spend your life in the hole!!!!"
- He entered a guilty plea.
He shouldn't, but again, this was after a year of solitary confinement.
- He said his conduct that day was "indefensible." "I have no excuse. No excuse whatsoever."
And yet Code Pink people find themselves back on the streets in a day.
- He was sentenced to 41 months, the low end of the 41 to 51 months suggested by the federal sentencing guidelines for the crime.
He isn't a martyr, he is a moron. That doesn't negate my point.
- You want to whitewash what he did and make him a martyr.
This won't make much sense to you but I will put it out there again anyway. I don't agree with what the protesters did. They weren't in the right. However, I have sat back for most of my life and have periodically watched Democrat voters, leftists, and people who ally with that side of the political aisle act a damn fool over things as small as a bunch of world leaders showing up into town. Property destruction, theft, beatings, murder...all of this is explained away because for whatever reason leftists aren't supposed to act like civilized adults when shit doesn't go their way. The one time the right gets out of pocket they get the Gulag treatment. Meanwhile it is catch and release in most instances for the left. Yeah, the protestors did something wrong and I keep hearing how people like you and Hickory totally support going after left leaning people who act out and it never. ****ing. Happens.
That is my point. I refuse to live in a two tier system of justice where these idiots get solitary confinement and those idiots get to go home the next day for doing the exact same shit. "It was certifying an election." Who the **** cares. Congressional business is congressional business. If interrupting work is punishable by up to 4 years in prison, I want to see more of the professional activists on the left getting real time. It is as simplistic as that.
And you cannot divorce this:
From this:
5 to 6 months separated these events. Those were labeled as "mostly peaceful" and we were supposed to allow people to have the space to air their grievances. I can go back and post what happened election night in 2016 and inauguration day in 2017. And yes, this is a whatabout because I think the whatabout matters. If you accept the punishments meted out and the "mostly peaceful" nature of one of these thing sin July, August, and September of 2020 and in November 2016 and January 2017, then it becomes harder to defend the treatment of the people in January 2021 as being commiserate with how we handle civil disobedience. When you cheer that behavior in 2020 as well and good because they are the favorable people, the disfavored will see that same behavior as accepted forms of protest.
Bottom line, I hope these people are "punished" as much as any of you hope lefties get punished for doing the same shit. Which is not much at all.