I was just pointing out that she was arrested and sentenced.
Not everything has to be equal.
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I was just pointing out that she was arrested and sentenced.
Not everything has to be equal.
Equal justice under the law is kind of important, no?
That's become laughable at this point in this country.
Which has kind of been my whole point. Everyone we have been speaking of in this thread did something wrong on their particular day. A crazy guy dresses up weird, says mean things on a bull horn, and gets a personal escort to the Senate floor to make weird statements gets a year or more in solitary confinement and 4 years in prison. His political opponent firebombs a building and gets 4 years. "I already freely admit they were being made an example of." Yes. Exactly. That is my whole point. Who are the left leaning people who act out far, far more often than right wingers who are "being made an example of"? They don't exist.
Just a worthless, "Well they should get in trouble too" doesn't suffice anymore. Those groups are able to coordinate enough so that people from half a dozen states and 2 foreign countries are able to land outside Atlanta to fire bomb a police training facility. "Well they got arrested." Who the f cares. The majority will get probation and be back on the street. I want them held until the feds do an investigation into them as domestic terrorists.
The right wing has a bunch to learn from the left as far as what is "acceptable". Pretending we are dealing with people who are the equivalent of the left wing William F. Buckley has been a colossal mistake. Allowing the "adults" to say "tsk, tsk, someone should do something about that..." while they do nothing has been dumb. They should face their own medicine.
The GOP kids need to start throwing punches at these events.
You yabbut queens apparently don't realize that there is a range of incarceration longevity that is at the judge's discretion. They aren't just keyboard warriors making judgments on the cliff notes. They are allowed to look at all factors and make a ruling. Not everyone gets the same judge so obviously some will trend harsher than others. Not necessarily because they are as partisan as you.
Being a part of an attempt to prevent the peaceful transfer of power is probably a factor against Jan 6ers when it comes to sentencing.
I understand that you are having trouble finding comparable yabbuts since Jan 6 was the one and only insurrection attempt but not everything that goes against a conservative is unfair or due to partisanship regardless of what your lord and savior Trump says.
**** off. When it comes to this stuff your opinion means next to nothing to me. People like you should get the Charlie Kirk treatment wherever you go until you see the error of your ways.
You're so utterly without a brain hick. An attempt to prevent?? Have you lost your mind? What planet are you from? If there would have been an actual attempt there would not be a capitol left standing. There would have been hundreds killed. Gunfire, grenades, bombs, congress men and women dead. If this behavior continues from our government I can assure you it will happen during your life. Our government is acting dangerously close to something it isn't. For The People!
Wake up!
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If they were charged with the same crimes, then yes, but they weren't charged with the same crimes, so it's apples and oranges.
Thanks - your last sentence just summed up our justice system today.
Very succinct - good job!
When the right demonstrates, we get Nathan Philips and Nick Sandmann. A literal creation of the media for which some of them actually paid damages.
Heck, we had Goat starting threads about it here.
The right is at a disadvantage because the mainstream media, minus Fox News, is more or less the propaganda arm of the democrat party.
Today, yesterday, last year... pick a time frame.
If you think this is new, you haven't been paying attention.
What you know couldn’t fill a fingernail
lmao
Right has Fox News, News Max, OANN, Breitbart, Epoch Times, Truth Social (lmao), Info Wars, Washington Times, National Review and more. Right also has pretty much a monopoly on the radio (at least among those stations that discuss politics).
Viewership for Fox News is also higher than most of the so called "mainstream media" that you want to label as fake or liberal. Fox News has more people that sit there watching it for hours on end to get their fill of propaganda than any other station (and it's not even close).
Cable news ratings U.S. networks 2023 | Statista
What is the most watched news channel in the U.S.? Fox News ratings are highest in primetime, but how many people watch Fox News versus other networks?
www.statista.com
Pretty obvious which news station spreads their propaganda most efficiently.
But yea, the right is at a disadvantage when it comes to media LMAO.
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You conveniently left out some key facts. He was one of the first to illegally enter the United States Capitol on Jan 6, with those who followed actively hunting for lawmakers and Pence, he carried a spear, left a threatening note for Pence, screamed threats (e.g. "Time's up, motherfvckers!"),and described his own conduct as inexcusable and indefensible.
You've also misrepresented his sentence. He got 41 months. That's less than 3 and a half years. I haven't heard any mention of a parole disqualifier so I'm assuming he'll be out sooner than that. "Solitary" today isn't what it was 50 or even 25 years ago (they have internet access and can use an iPad or some other device, they have daily human contact, etc.) and he was placed in solitary for a time for his own well-being. Frankly, in some lockups, solitary is the best place to be.
Why do you keep defending this guy after he described his behavior as indefensible?
That's incorrect. First, the term "mainstream media" is so nebulous that it doesn't have any real meaning. I think people who use it are typically referring to traditional media. With respect to traditional media, it has a fraction of the influence (and viewers and readers) it had back in the day. ABC World News Tonight is the top-rated nightly news show with just over 8 million viewers. Compare and contrast that with Walter Cronkite, who pulled in almost 30 million viewers a night when the US population was 150 million fewer than it is today.
Nobody reads print newspapers anymore. Reputable news organizations have online editions, but studies consistently show that most people are just scanning for headlines and not spending more than 10 or 15 seconds on each piece.
AM talk radio, which is primarily right, has millions of listeners. And how can you say "minus Fox News?" It's by far the most watched cable "news" network.
Sadly, social media is where increasing numbers receive their "news," and there's as much right as there is left. Idiot social media influencers (Baris, for example) are frequently cited in this forum. Right and far-right websites are at least as numerous as those on the left.
It's the 21st Century. I think you might be stuck in the last one.
so definitely more than you know
You did prove that you don't really have an issue with yabbuts. your hypocrisy just has issue with yabbuts from liberals. Guess I was right about you.
Anyway, sorry I got your panties in a twist so much that you think you need to lob petty insults. the fact that you have nothing else just proves you are incapable of refuting anything I said.
You’re talking about what judges can do. A topic you know nothing about. As for knowing more than I, we’re in very different leagues Hick. My daughter would throw fastballs by you all day longso definitely more than you know
sorry I got your panties in a twist that you think you need to lob petty insults. the fact that you have nothing else just proves you are incapable of refuting anything I said.
I read your stupid posts and am reminded how I wish I would have studied finance and economics and learned to use words like robust like jdb and twenty instead of political science. The only benefit to poly sci is your posts remind me of Socrates and Plato and what they called the true enemy of knowledge ….so definitely more than you know
You did prove that you don't really have an issue with yabbuts. your hypocrisy just has issue with yabbuts from liberals. Guess I was right about you.
Anyway, sorry I got your panties in a twist so much that you think you need to lob petty insults. the fact that you have nothing else just proves you are incapable of refuting anything I said.
Yeah. Our legal system is better than most, but "equal justice" is a myth. The guy you responded to probably thinks OJ would have walked with a public defender.
And you're right that the earlier reference was an apples and oranges comparison (different crimes, different jurisdictions, different aggravating and mitigating factors, etc.), which could inspire a new name for this Forum - - The Apples and Oranges Stand might work. That's all it is most days - - false equivalences promoted by the MAGA/Trump crowd and/or the not very bright.
Don't worry. They just cuffed a couple from Brownsburg 26 months after the fact. Thank god they've going after these folks and not Antifa.
You just gave him the Charlie Kirk treatment, didn't you?
BTW, Charlie Kirk can wipe my arse. His organization kept texting me - from different telephone numbers - to get out the vote last fall in support of Herschel Walker, despite my "STOP" texts in response to Kirk's. He's pond scum.
Possibly, I dont really know the details on Blake but there are other better examples. If I was in the same position those officers were and I couldn't hide behind a badge my ass would be going to prison.
These are also examples of why it's ignorant and beyond stupidity when gun control advocates say only police and military should have guns. Then you have the defund police movement. So let's arm the state and not pay to train them.
F that. I'll keep my guns and not let the government have a monopoly on force. The government and police have a long history of killing unarmed people.
Would you like to compare that to the number of civilians killing unarmed people?
And if you're in a standoff with police, I don't think being armed is going to help you. You would just make their kill more justifiable if that was their intent.
If you're fighting the government, then your guns aren't a match if they really wanted to get you. 1 tank would just about do it
.Sure as long as you break it down by category.Would you like to compare that to the number of civilians killing unarmed people?
And if you're in a standoff with police, I don't think being armed is going to help you. You would just make their kill more justifiable if that was their intent.
If you're fighting the government, then your guns aren't a match if they really wanted to get you. 1 tank would just about do it
Well that depends. The police knowing you are armed slows them down from busting in your door.
I was swatted a few years ago. Officer kicked on my door unannounced. I think my rifle made him second guess himself. Everything turned out fine.
If I was fighting the government I wouldn't be doing it alone. If it went that far Americans would have their own tanks and planes ect. I.E. the Civil War. Where do you think the south got their stuff?
The afghans sure put up a fight. 14 years against Russia and 20 against the US
lol, so the officer would have shot you if you weren't armed? unlikely.
I'm guessing the South stole some of it. but I don't recall many tanks or planes in the civil war but maybe my history is a little foggy. It's also likely that stuff is a little more secure now a days than back in the 19th century.
For what it's worth, none of them paid damages. Some of them settled, but they probably shouldn't have. All who fought it won.
Not that it justifies their irresponsible reporting, of course.
As a practical matter, settling is paying damages, regardless of whether they should have or not.
But it doesn't serve as an example of the court system being unfair or biased against conservatives because settling happens outside of the court system.
I think the distinction is quite important. Paying damages means the issue was adjudicated, and the arbiter of facts determined you did wrong. Settling implies no wrongdoing.
All of this is true but it doesn’t change my point.
Fox may be the most watched network but NBC, CBS, CNN, ABC, NPR, MSNBC combined draw FAR more viewers than fox does during prime time. So in terms of reaching people, they still carry a whole lot more weight than Fox and none of them are any better.
Also, lol @ social media users being evenly split among Democrats and Republicans. For websites maybe, but Twitter and instagram and the like are overwhelmingly liberal.
might want to tell Elon Musk that...he may have to get out his ban hammer lol
This board will argue about anything but it is splitting hairs to claim liberal media has more reach. You conveniently want to ignore the dominance conservative propaganda has on radio.
I don’t disagree but my point stands.
Even if no one admitted wrongdoing, the behavior that lead them into court in the first place is why they were settling, so they were still paying damages for their conduct.
If that's all your point is, I agree. I just think the phrase "paying damages" implies a lot more than that.
You may want to re-think that (see below), at least with respect to Twitter. Lol indeed.
From the Penn source:
"Most of the sources being shared on Twitter as [progressive] events unfolded lead to right-leaning domains. You don't have an equivalent on the left. And it's not only about number of messages containing URLs; that's one measure we use, showing that there are more URLs pointing to right-leaning domains. It is also about engagement. Users reacted more frequently to right-leaning sources."
From the IU source:
"In this era of political polarization, many accuse online social media platforms such as Twitter of liberal bias, intentionally favoring and amplifying liberal content and users while suppressing other political content. But a new Indiana University study finds this is not the case. Political biases, the researchers found, stem from the social interactions of our accounts - - we receive content closely aligned with whatever our online friends produce, especially our very first online friends. Also, political biases on Twitter favor conservative content."
We see it here. The vast majority of Twitter content posted here is from the far-right. As discussed in these articles, it tends to be low-credibility content. There are others who post here who don't provide Twitter links but it's clear they're singing from the same song sheet, are heavily influenced by social media and are exposed primarily or even solely to content that simply affirms their biases. As the IU study reflects, "Online influence is affected by the echo-chamber characteristics of the social network. Drifters following more partisan news sources received more politically aligned followers, becoming embedded in denser echo chambers. To avoid getting stuck in online echo chambers, users must make extra efforts to moderate the content they consume and the social ties they form . . ." It's probably way too late for some of our friends here.
Twitter gives conservative news greater visibility than liberal content | Penn Today
This bias held even in the context of a social justice movement with left-leaning goals, according to research from Sandra González-Bailón of the Annenberg School for Communication and colleagues.
penntoday.upenn.edu
Bias on Twitter comes from users, not platform, says IU study
IU researchers deploy neutral social bots on Twitter to probe biases emerging from platform mechanisms versus user interactions.
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