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Why I'll Never Trust Another Democrat In My Lifetime


***Anyone who wouldn't defend this country if and when we're attacked just needs to do themselves and the rest of us a huge favor and go ahead and leave now...***

Gutless, traitorous wonders...
I can’t read the whole article because it’s asking me to subscribe, but I think I get the gist.

I do think the other side of that pendulum contains trigger-happy people who think every thing is an affront to their freedom.

I’m not sure how helpful either extreme is helpful to a strong, functioning society.
 
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I can’t read the whole article because it’s asking me to subscribe, but I think I get the gist.

I do think the other side of that pendulum contains trigger-happy people who think every thing is an affront to their freedom.

I’m not sure how helpful either extreme is helpful to a strong, functioning society.
I’m also skeptical of any polling on that kind of hypothetical. We wouldn’t know how anyone would respond til the rubber met the road.
 

***Anyone who wouldn't defend this country if and when we're attacked just needs to do themselves and the rest of us a huge favor and go ahead and leave now...***

Gutless, traitorous wonders...
I can't read beyond the first two paragraphs because it's behind a paywall.

I agree that any able-bodied person who wouldn't stick around and fight is disgraceful, and it's pretty sad that most Dems in this survey said they'd cut and run. But your thread is titled "Why I'll Never Trust Another Democrat in My Lifetime," which seemingly ignores that a significant minority of Dems responded that they would stay and fight. But all Dems are bad in your book.

I just delved further into this Quinnipiac poll. A not-insignificant percentage of Republicans, 25%, said they'd cut and run.

Your thread title is emblematic of why we're so polarized. You're part of the problem.
 

***Anyone who wouldn't defend this country if and when we're attacked just needs to do themselves and the rest of us a huge favor and go ahead and leave now...***

Gutless, traitorous wonders...

Jan 6....

Traitorous wonders

By the way, 40% of dems would stay and fight, 25% of pubs would run. But keep generalizing.
 
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I’m also skeptical of any polling on that kind of hypothetical. We wouldn’t know how anyone would respond til the rubber met the road.
I completely disagree...

Anyone who would even hesitate..., much less answer No..., when asked if they would defend this country if it were attacked isn't worthy of US citizenship and in my opinion should just take the next step..., renounce their citizenship and move to Venezuela or wherever their version of Communist utopia may be...

60% is a number that tells me this type of thinking is emblematic of the majority of Democrats therefore Ever trusting one in the future is simply off the table...
 
I completely disagree...

Anyone who would even hesitate..., much less answer No..., when asked if they would defend this country if it were attacked isn't worthy of US citizenship and in my opinion should just take the next step..., renounce their citizenship and move to Venezuela or wherever their version of Communist utopia may be...

60% is a number that tells me this type of thinking is emblematic of the majority of Democrats therefore Ever trusting one in the future is simply off the table...
Majority of Republicans excused Jan 6. It would make more sense to never trust another republican. And Jan 6 is something that actually happened. Not a hypothetical.
 
I can’t read the whole article because it’s asking me to subscribe, but I think I get the gist.

I do think the other side of that pendulum contains trigger-happy people who think every thing is an affront to their freedom.

I’m not sure how helpful either extreme is helpful to a strong, functioning society.
Those trigger-happy people defending their 'freedom' seem to live in Chicago, Detroit, Philadelphia, Oakland. New Orleans...etc.

That who you're talking about, Cenk?
 
Those trigger-happy people defending their 'freedom' seem to live in Chicago, Detroit, Philadelphia, Oakland. New Orleans...etc.

That who you're talking about, Cenk?
Half the Dimacrats are Bernie Bros! So you know what that tells you.
 
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I completely disagree...

Anyone who would even hesitate..., much less answer No..., when asked if they would defend this country if it were attacked isn't worthy of US citizenship and in my opinion should just take the next step..., renounce their citizenship and move to Venezuela or wherever their version of Communist utopia may be...

60% is a number that tells me this type of thinking is emblematic of the majority of Democrats therefore Ever trusting one in the future is simply off the table...
I’d like to see the racial and age breakdown of that statistic rather than the Democrat/Republican breakdown. Those who were taught and believe the purpose of the American Revolution was to preserve slavery are likely among the 60%. Our educrats have decided that teaching about the goodness of America and the goodness of the founders is not “complete” history. Many people have monetized racial tension and have accumulated a lot of political power because of it. They are doing enormous damage to America. That shows with polls like this. I
 
Fleeing people...you just described over half this board. The reporters. Lmao. Every pub I know would dig in like an Arkansas tick and defend. Your either fighting and free or someone's bitch. I'll fight.

Hickory you would turn Unger from the longest yard in a heartbeat.
 
Lol, most republicans wouldn't take a little needle shot that might have given you a small headache to help defend their country much less a bullet.

I very strongly doubt the right would fight these days unless it came from Republican leadership.

Just had a casual conversation today with a bunch of old school pubs pissed off and worried about Biden sending troops to help Ukraine (along with lambasting the all the 'stupid' sanctions like kicking them out of SWIFT) because it hurts our economy to do so.

So yeah, not quite the 'home of the brave' mindset and confidence right now (I'm still puzzled where this sympathetic Putin vibe is coming from).
 
Don't know what he said since I've had the cackling idiot ((almost makes you wonder if Kamela isn't on here as H1...)) on ignore for quite some time but if he, she, it..., said it I'm certain you're correct in your assessment...
Someone can't handle dissenting opinion apparently.
 
I completely disagree...

Anyone who would even hesitate..., much less answer No..., when asked if they would defend this country if it were attacked isn't worthy of US citizenship and in my opinion should just take the next step..., renounce their citizenship and move to Venezuela or wherever their version of Communist utopia may be...

60% is a number that tells me this type of thinking is emblematic of the majority of Democrats therefore Ever trusting one in the future is simply off the table...
See here’s why your hyper partisanships shows through. Your opening post rags on Democrats only. However this post rags on anyone who says they won’t stay and fight. I assume that include independents and, gasp, Republicans. So why did you single out Democrats?
 
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I can’t read the whole article because it’s asking me to subscribe, but I think I get the gist.

I do think the other side of that pendulum contains trigger-happy people who think every thing is an affront to their freedom.

I’m not sure how helpful either extreme is helpful to a strong, functioning society.
That’s it, you’re OUT of the Wolverines.
 
I can't read beyond the first two paragraphs because it's behind a paywall.

I agree that any able-bodied person who wouldn't stick around and fight is disgraceful, and it's pretty sad that most Dems in this survey said they'd cut and run. But your thread is titled "Why I'll Never Trust Another Democrat in My Lifetime," which seemingly ignores that a significant minority of Dems responded that they would stay and fight. But all Dems are bad in your book.

I just delved further into this Quinnipiac poll. A not-insignificant percentage of Republicans, 25%, said they'd cut and run.

Your thread title is emblematic of why we're so polarized. You're part of the problem.
To your point there are plenty of Trumpservatives who are believing the bogeyman story of Ukrainian nazis hook line and sinker and are propagating Russian propaganda because Biden is in charge. There are plenty of right wingers that would balk at defending our soil because they’d see fighting as fitting into some sort of Soros-ian scheme because their preferred Twitter influencers told them it is.
 
I completely disagree...

Anyone who would even hesitate..., much less answer No..., when asked if they would defend this country if it were attacked isn't worthy of US citizenship and in my opinion should just take the next step..., renounce their citizenship and move to Venezuela or wherever their version of Communist utopia may be...

60% is a number that tells me this type of thinking is emblematic of the majority of Democrats therefore Ever trusting one in the future is simply off the table...
Did you enlist after 9-11?
 
Seriously? You don’t know if you’d defend our country if it was invaded? Seems like a simple question with very telling answers to me.
I’ve never been faced with a life or death fight/flight situation. I can honestly say I don’t know what decisions I’d make for the preservation of my life in addition to my wife and kids’ lives.

This isn’t a movie, this isn’t Red Dawn. Furthermore, I have no military or paramilitary training. I would hope I’d choose to become part of the resistance in an invasion scenario, I don’t know if I’d be a benefit or drag on them on the front lines. Maybe I’d be better used in the back building molotovs. I honestly don’t know.

But I couldn’t care less what some anonymous badasses say they would do in a hypothetical situation. If it happens we’ll see what everyone actually does. Until then, it’s just macho flexing.
 
I’ve never been faced with a life or death fight/flight situation. I can honestly say I don’t know what decisions I’d make for the preservation of my life in addition to my wife and kids’ lives.

This isn’t a movie, this isn’t Red Dawn. Furthermore, I have no military or paramilitary training. I would hope I’d choose to become part of the resistance in an invasion scenario, I don’t know if I’d be a benefit or drag on them on the front lines. Maybe I’d be better used in the back building molotovs. I honestly don’t know.

But I couldn’t care less what some anonymous badasses say they would do in a hypothetical situation. If it happens we’ll see what everyone actually does. Until then, it’s just macho flexing.
Resistance doesn’t mean every person is on the front line pulling triggers. If you could contribute with logistics, intelligence, first aid, cooking . . . it’s all part of the resistance and all is needed.
 
Resistance doesn’t mean every person is on the front line pulling triggers. If you could contribute with logistics, intelligence, first aid, cooking . . . it’s all part of the resistance and all is needed.
I would be useless on the front but would be glad to provide support. First aid, food, knowledge of area, smuggling supplies. I could probably convert my computer security skills to hacking.
 
I’ve never been faced with a life or death fight/flight situation. I can honestly say I don’t know what decisions I’d make for the preservation of my life in addition to my wife and kids’ lives.

This isn’t a movie, this isn’t Red Dawn. Furthermore, I have no military or paramilitary training. I would hope I’d choose to become part of the resistance in an invasion scenario, I don’t know if I’d be a benefit or drag on them on the front lines. Maybe I’d be better used in the back building molotovs. I honestly don’t know.

But I couldn’t care less what some anonymous badasses say they would do in a hypothetical situation. If it happens we’ll see what everyone actually does. Until then, it’s just macho flexing.
I think that’s entirely reasonable. I believe most everyone would want to believe they’d stand their ground - and for what it’s worth I actually think a majority of Americans would - but I’m sure there are some of even the most confident people who might shrink and run.

This reminds me of the time in college when there was some ridiculous rumor that an ax murderer was going to knock out the power at our school, dress up like Little Bo Peep and indiscriminately kill students on Halloween night. I have no idea how that started or why people believed it.

I remember sitting at lunch a few days prior and hearing a lot of bravado from some guys on the football team saying they hoped someone was crazy enough to show up because they’d like a crack at him and felt they’d end the situation pretty quickly.

Fast forward to Halloween night and someone actually did cut the power. I remember seeing one of those same football players running down the hall crying with a handful of his stuff.

I asked him where he was going and he said he was going to his parents’ house for the night. So much for him taking on the imaginary ax murderer.

He actually wasn’t a bad guy and I’m guessing a big part of him believed he’d be the action hero/savior he was talking himself up to be. Whether or not he would ever admit it, he found out a lot about himself that night.

For the record, no one showed up. Another student found out a way to mess with the power in our dorm and got into a shit ton of trouble for it.
 
Did you enlist after 9-11?
A few years over the limit but thanks for asking...

I proudly did my duty however in a couple of ways that you'll never learn about...

(plus... I did help train a couple of future Marines who went on to destroy multiple bad guys in Iraq and later Afghanistan... They survived and the people they engaged didn't so I presume I did something right [along with a good dose of real USMC training .]...).

How about you?
 
A few years over the limit but thanks for asking...

I proudly did my duty however in a couple of ways that you'll never learn about...

(plus... I did help train a couple of future Marines who went on to destroy multiple bad guys in Iraq and later Afghanistan... They survived and the people they engaged didn't so I presume I did something right [along with a good dose of real USMC training .]...).

How about you?
No. Too old. And I don't have Rambo fantasies, either.

So I assume that means both of us should have our citizenship revoked?
 
No. Too old. And I don't have Rambo fantasies, either.

So I assume that means both of us should have our citizenship revoked?
Never took you for an idiot..., and I thought you seemed to always have a grasp of what you read... (until now)...

Go back to the start and read what I've already posted.

To answer your BS question: not me... if our country is in the same situation as Ukraine I'm sticking and fighting to the last breath...

If you don't feel the same then do the rest of us a favor and find life elsewhere...
 
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So you don’t have laser site’s on any of your guns?
I think an invasion of the mainland US is extremely unlikely at best. I’d assume it’s more like we’d have to worry about nukes in the sky instead of boots on the ground. I’d also have to think both scenarios are unlikely though.

Maybe you’ll save us all by fixing your laser sites on any incoming nukes.
 
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