What the hell are schools supposed to do to stop the war in Gaza

[IUCrazy2]

I drove by at 12:30. There were 50 or so in the protest, maybe 5 up on the sidewalk as counter protestors. No violence

I walk on campus at lunch almost every day, M-F. I sometimes will walk in the evening. I pass the protestors often. When they are marching, they usually hold their signs and are quiet on occasion they have the usual chants involving no money for genocide. At least when I have been around, I have seen nothing untoward.

No I don't particularly agree with them, yet. My attitude toward Israel is softening. At some point this has to end. They want to capture every member of Hamas. If that were the WW2 standard we would still be bombing Germany because there are WW2 war criminals that have never been caught. There was at least one Japanese war criminal that escaped capture (Tsuji).

Paliestinians screwed up. They elected Hamas, that (in my worldview) made Oct 7 a state declaration of war. That is why I stick with Israel, but even that has limits. I wouldn't favor continued bombing of Germany because war criminals were still on the loose. There is a time it has to end.

It ends when they surrender. We stopped pummeling Germany and Japan when they unconditionally surrendered. The Palestinians' chosen government hasn't surrendered yet, so you continue to pound them until they do.

I think the Israelis will be more than happy to stop when they have people like Haniyeh swinging from the end of a rope....if we are using WW2 examples and what we did.

 

[IUCrazy2]

People who believe in their cause, who believe that what they are doing is going to save lives or change the world, don't complain about being arrested. They welcome it.

I am probably one of the least sympathetic to these folks on the board. This movement sucks, any legal reason available to squash them is fine with me.

 

[Joe_Hoopsier]

I am probably one of the least sympathetic to these folks on the board. This movement sucks, any legal reason available to squash them is fine with me.

They’ve allowed me to unlock all new levels of unsympathetic . It’s amazing.

 

[hoot1]

And when people ask "Why would the University do this?" it is because of this. There have been several examples of how these protests have turned out across the country for them to observe before the virus spread here.

I said it in another thread, the school was smart. They planned ahead and threw a procedural roadblock in front of these troublemakers to make sure they couldn't occupy campus and harass students. When they refused to follow those rules the most belligerent got arrested. Thems the breaks.

Craze, your reference to protestors as being "troublemakers" is an opinion shared by what may very well may be a majority of Americans.

Therein lies the fact that protests can be counterproductive.

On a personal level starting with college and until this very day I am interested in what protestors have to say, but avoid participating or encouraging the practice even for a cause in which I believe.

Finally if you want to be labelled a liberal and lose the support of conservatives start or join a protest.

 

[Victorbmyboy]

And when people ask "Why would the University do this?" it is because of this. There have been several examples of how these protests have turned out across the country for them to observe before the virus spread here.

I said it in another thread, the school was smart. They planned ahead and threw a procedural roadblock in front of these troublemakers to make sure they couldn't occupy campus and harass students. When they refused to follow those rules the most belligerent got arrested. Thems the breaks.

The harassment had already started. What we are seeing has multiple agendas. One is a group protesting against Israel(genocide), one set following along and then you have the ids etc..using this to get back at the president(witten) and the BOT.

 

[IUCrazy2]

Craze, your reference to protestors as being "troublemakers" is an opinion shared by what may very well may be a majority of Americans.

Therein lies the fact that protests can be counterproductive.

On a personal level starting with college and until this very day I am interested in what protestors have to say, but avoid participating or encouraging the practice even for a cause in which I believe.

Finally if you want to be labelled a liberal and lose the support of conservatives start or join a protest.

To be fair, I would never really be on their team but the way they have gone about advancing their position moves me from, "Yeah, can't agree with you there but get it out of your system" to the more strident, "Squash them."

They are repeating the same talking points of the terrorists and many of them doing it are the navel gazers who found new respect for Osama Bin Laden a few months back. Looking at Columbia and other places where they went from just a stupid opinion to out and out harassment and uncivil behavior....meh, squash em. Bring the full weight down on them. They don't represent any type of revolution I want in my country.

 

[zeke4ahs]

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Plenty of vets on Jan 6, however.

 

[Joe_Hoopsier]

Plenty of vets on Jan 6, however.

You really just need to
Calm
Down.

 

[Joe_Hoopsier]

To be fair, I would never really be on their team but the way they have gone about advancing their position moves me from, "Yeah, can't agree with you there but get it out of your system" to the more strident, "Squash them."

They are repeating the same talking points of the terrorists and many of them doing it are the navel gazers who found new respect for Osama Bin Laden a few months back. Looking at Columbia and other places where they went from just a stupid opinion to out and out harassment and uncivil behavior....meh, squash em. Bring the full weight down on them. They don't represent any type of revolution I want in my country.

Radicalized Demooslims whom most don’t even know what they’re radicalized for.

 

[hoot1]

To be fair, I would never really be on their team but the way they have gone about advancing their position moves me from, "Yeah, can't agree with you there but get it out of your system" to the more strident, "Squash them."

They are repeating the same talking points of the terrorists and many of them doing it are the navel gazers who found new respect for Osama Bin Laden a few months back. Looking at Columbia and other places where they went from just a stupid opinion to out and out harassment and uncivil behavior....meh, squash em. Bring the full weight down on them. They don't represent any type of revolution I want in my country.

On the Fareed Zakaria show saw a Jewish professor who teaches at Columbia and has spent time at the tent city discuss the protest with a New York Times journalist who hadn't visited the campua.

They both agreed and disagreed on a number of issues with the professor reassuring the journalist about the students not displaying anti semitism.

Could it be some of main and social media are misleading us by making generalizations about the protests which may be untrue in some, if not many cases ?

 

[mushroomgod_1]

The explanation was it was the tents. Below are the rules as published, structures were allowed as long as removed by 11PM

https://vpfaa.indiana.edu/files/policy-pdfs/bl-aca-i18-use-assembly-ground.pdf

There is to be a faculty protest at 10 today.

Seems pretty simple. Don't camp out or crap on the sidewalk and you're good to go.

 

[Victorbmyboy]

Seems pretty simple. Don't camp out or crap on the sidewalk and you're good to go.

🤣 you would think but they want the confrontation and “brutality”.

 

[dr.jb]

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[82hoosier]

they need to run the idiots off of the campuses across the country.

Google: first amendment.

 

[Hoopsdoc1978]

Some of these videos are just hilarious.

 

[IUCrazy2]

I support Whitten in this. These groups have been setting up areas on University campuses across the country. When they do, they are left with the impression that they are then the authority in those areas. It led to violent protest at VCU last night and scenes like the one in New York at supposedly one of our most prestigious universities up above. I was kind of agnostic on Whitten up until recently. Her opponents have pushed me into the support camp and the way she handled this wasn't a black eye IMO, it was a masterclass in setting the field early so things don't really get out of control.

As to the people in the video I posted above, I would have teargassed them all and anyone who didn't leave I would have busses ready to process and arrest them all. When I complained in the other thread about people on that side of the aisle not really giving a f--- about other people's rights, this is the type of behavior I mentioned. They have no respect for others, this is a power play. They should be smashed.

 

[BradStevens]

https://www.chronicle.com/article/some-professors-face-punishments-as-colleges-crack-down-on-gaza-protests

 

[Victorbmyboy]

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I support Whitten in this. These groups have been setting up areas on University campuses across the country. When they do, they are left with the impression that they are then the authority in those areas. It led to violent protest at VCU last night and scenes like the one in New York at supposedly one of our most prestigious universities up above. I was kind of agnostic on Whitten up until recently. Her opponents have pushed me into the support camp and the way she handled this wasn't a black eye IMO, it was a masterclass in setting the field early so things don't really get out of control.

As to the people in the video I posted above, I would have teargassed them all and anyone who didn't leave I would have busses ready to process and arrest them all. When I complained in the other thread about people on that side of the aisle not really giving a f--- about other people's rights, this is the type of behavior I mentioned. They have no respect for others, this is a power play. They should be smashed.

UCLA protesters are singling out Jewish students and denying them entry.

 

[BradStevens]

UCLA protesters are singling out Jewish students and denying them entry.

Into classrooms?

That’s expulsion worthy conduct.

 

[mcmurtry66]

UCLA protesters are singling out Jewish students and denying them entry.

Can you imagine going to school in Westwood. I’m paradise. How lucky you are and this is how you spend your time. Denying entry

Kick em out of school

 

[mattndallas]

I'm fine with a bunch of outcasts gathering in a field, standing around, chanting or whatever. Dunn Meadow is the perfect place for that. Off the sidewalks, in the middle of a field...so what? Ignore them, and they will quickly bore, and leave.

They want antagonists. They want drama. Don't give it to them.

Chalk up University property....at least they're not defaming war memorials on the Square. In fact, they're not clogging traffic. Not laying in front of cars. Not daring 80 year old grandpa's, in their 1975 Ford pickup, heading home from a Dr's appt or the feed store, to drive through their "protest".

Let them hang in the meadow. Who cares?

 

[BradStevens]

Can you imagine going to school in Westwood. I’m paradise. How lucky you are and this is how you spend your time. Denying entry

Kick em out of school

I should have gone there for law school. One of my many mistakes in life.

 

[mcmurtry66]

I should have gone there for law school. One of my many mistakes in life.

Did you get in????! Yeah that would have been the life. I had a soccer scholarship there. Toured campus the town etc. spectacular.

 

[BradStevens]

As lon

I'm fine with a bunch of outcasts gathering in a field, standing around, chanting or whatever. Dunn Meadow is the perfect place for that. Off the sidewalks, in the middle of a field...so what? Ignore them, and they will quickly bore, and leave.

They want antagonists. They want drama. Don't give it to them.

Chalk up University property....at least they're not defaming war memorials on the Square. In fact, they're not clogging traffic. Not laying in front of cars. Not daring 80 year old grandpa's, in their 1975 Ford pickup, heading home from a Dr's appt or the feed store, to drive through their "protest".

Let them hang in the meadow. Who cares?

Aa long as they don’t break any rules, sure.

This is going to be a huge issue for Israel in 20-30 years when this generation gains power. US support for Israel is not going to be as strong:

 

[BradStevens]

Did you get in????! Yeah that would have been the life. I had a soccer scholarship there. Toured campus the town etc. spectacular.

Full ride.

 

[mcmurtry66]

Full ride.

Stop it? For law school? See that’s where the problems began. I like to be able to trace my problems back to life decisions. There’s about 4 moments and decisions that gave rise to the life I lead vs THE LIFE I DESERVED

Ucla is absolutely awesome

 

[mattndallas]

Ucla is absolutely awesome

We play @ UCLA this fall in futball, and football.

Venmo for fine OK?

 

[mcmurtry66]

We play @ UCLA this fall in futball, and football.

Venmo for fine OK?

That whole set up was amazing. Spent two days with Sigi. Was great. For Midwest boys at 17 that was like a another world

 

[twenty02]

I should have gone there for law school. One of my many mistakes in life.

Wtf.... dude. You did what instead?

 

[mcmurtry66]

Wtf.... dude. You did what instead?

Decided to become the next joe jamail

 

[BradStevens]

Wtf.... dude. You did what instead?

UT Austin. Same deal. Fell in love with Austin and it was ranked higher at the time. and it had the #1 faculty per Princeton Review, which is really the only thing I cared about. I had no interest in making money at that time. I was a full-blown socialist, whose dream was to make a mark in civil rights by overturning Bowers v. Hardwick (SCt decision that affirmed criminalizing homosexual sex).

Imagine interviewing at law firms in 1997 and telling them that?

 

[Joe_Hoopsier]

Wasn't it Japan, who used to let protest go for a bit, and then pull out the water canon, filled with non removable ink/ die and then spray the crowd down? Easy to identify for the next couple weeks and they get to live community embarrassment.
Maybe mix in a bit of liquid pepper spray? Just watch like a magnifying glass shining on an ant.

uh uh uh, look at that one over there rolling around screaming... muahahaha

 

[mcmurtry66]

UT Austin. Same deal. Fell in love with Austin and it was ranked higher at the time. and it had the #1 faculty per Princeton Review, which is really the only thing I cared about. I had no interest in making money at that time. I was a full-blown socialist, whose dream was to make a mark in civil rights by overturning Bowers v. Hardwick (SCt decision that affirmed criminalizing homosexual sex).

Imagine interviewing at law firms in 1997 and telling them that?

We went to school with a kid who went to UT for undergrad. One of the funniest people I’ve ever met. Had a laugh that was so great you felt like Robin Williams around him. Career services was on the first floor and when we’d all walk by he’d bash their window and yell WHERES MY JOB and bust out laughing. He daytraded all day long. At the end of the year this one real neat prof, or I should say the one real neat prof, bethel, was going to give a talk at the Irish lion. So we were planning our night out and said we were going to see him talk. He goes bethel. Who is that? YOUR CONTRACTS PROFESSOR 🤣🤣. He one day just bought a brand new Land Cruiser with a check. I guess that daytrading worked. He ended up dropping out and our crew heard he was real into crypto

Ultimately he was a rugged individualist. Let’s say it another way. A Texan. He had no place in Bloomington

I’d have loved going to UT. But alas … no soccer

 

[BradStevens]

We went to school with a kid who went to UT for undergrad. One of the funniest people I’ve ever met. Had a laugh that was so great you felt like Robin Williams around him. Career services was on the first floor and when we’d all walk by he’d bash their window and yell WHERES MY JOB and bust out laughing. He daytraded all day long. At the end of the year this one real neat prof, or I should say the one real neat prof, bethel, was going to give a talk at the Irish lion. So we were planning our night out and said we were going to see him talk. He goes bethel. Who is that? YOUR CONTRACTS PROFESSOR 🤣🤣. He one day just bought a brand new Land Cruiser with a check. I guess that daytrading worked. He ended up dropping out and our crew heard he was real into crypto

Ultimately he was a rugged individualist. Let’s say it another way. A Texan. He had no place in Bloomington

I’d have loved going to UT. But alas … no soccer

When I came to IU from a small Indiana town, I thought it was the greatest collection of beautiful women that could ever exist.

Then I visited Austin and UT. Mind blown. I can't even imagine L.A. in my twenties. Wait, yes I can. Swingers.

 

[mcmurtry66]

When I came to IU from a small Indiana town, I thought it was the greatest collection of beautiful women that could ever exist.

Then I visited Austin and UT. Mind blown. I can't even imagine L.A. in my twenties. Wait, yes I can. Swingers.

Ucla didn’t have cowboy boots and skirts. I loved that Joe jamail

Where’d ya work.
Lilly Corp
How long!!!
27 years
We’ll see about it

For years after answers I’d say “we’ll see about it”

 

[IUCrazy2]

As lon

Aa long as they don’t break any rules, sure.

This is going to be a huge issue for Israel in 20-30 years when this generation gains power. US support for Israel is not going to be as strong:

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Which is why if I was in their shoes I wouldn't let this fester for 20 more years. YMMV on what that means...

 

[BradStevens]

Which is why if I was in their shoes I wouldn't let this fester for 20 more years. YMMV on what that means...

I certainly think Israel strategically needs to take that into account. Palestine is winning the PR war with progressives.

 

[Hoopsdoc1978]

I have no idea if this is accurate or not but it’s certainly dumb enough to be.

 

[DDE-6-20-23]

Death to America from Dearborn Michigan now this at Harvard.

 

[DDE-6-20-23]

I have no idea if this is accurate or not but it’s certainly dumb enough to be.

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Hmmmm, that gives this a run for the money. Revlon Raj LMAO