What is Brohm selling? PU got 2 more 4-stars in the last hour
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It was meaningful last year. First time both teams needed the game to be bowl eligible in forever.
I was concerned that with Allen we'd end up with another Mike Davis situation. Time will tell, but I don't think that's the case. Brohm had been a head coach before, Allen had not. (No different from Wilson in that respect.) Allen had a learning curve he needed to climb, and my gut tells me he's got a much better handle on the job now than he did starting out.
Debord didn't help himself any last year, but he didn't have much to work with in key spots and the injuries and resulting depth issues hurt us badly. Those areas seem to have been addressed to a great extent. Now I need to be convinced he's the guy going forward.
I'll be accused of settling for mediocrity, but I'll be happy with long term stability and winning seasons and the occasional glorious year when things fall together and we knock off the big boys. Think Northwestern. If Allen can achieve Mallory-like success, then we'll have come a long long way.
I hope this season's success doesn't come down to a Bucket win. Not that I think we can't beat Brohm and company, but that would mean that we would have porked away all of the breakthrough games on our schedule again. Any way we slice it, IU has got to start figuring out ways to knock off one of the BIG boys about every year or so or we will never keep a coach more than four or five years. I'm afraid the days of patience in College Sports have gone by the wayside.
If we always have four or five guaranteed losses on our schedule it will be tough to win all of the winnable games just to get bowling and keep momentum going. We always seem to find a way to fritter away a game or two we should win.
Hopefully CTA will get us strong enough to sustain some long term success.This old Hoosier fan is ready!
Go Hoosiers!
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If we always have four or five guaranteed losses on our schedule it will be tough to win all of the winnable games just to get bowling and keep momentum going. We always seem to find a way to fritter away a game or two we should win.
Hopefully CTA will get us strong enough to sustain some long term success.This old Hoosier fan is ready!
Go Hoosiers!
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They just picked up commits from 2 studs tonight.
- TJ Scheffield (WR) - TN
- Steven Faucheux (DT) - OH
They already had commits from 4-stars:
- Marvin Grant (CB) - MI
- Mershawn Rice (ATH) - OH
- George Karlaftis (DE) - IN
As much as we may want to downplay it, that's a real impressive haul in year 2. So what is Brohm selling that's causing this in-flow of top talent?
I think it's important for IU to pull in Cam Williams or some other heavies this year. I think things are headed in the right direction under Allen, but if Brohm stays a while, that could be a complication. The optics are important. All that said, I'm cheering for every Louisville opponent this year.
The Faucheux kid is a bit of an enigma. The Spartans are desperate for DT's in this class, and many recruitnics on the MSU board kept asking a poster who apparently has close ties to the program, why MSU hadn't made a move on this recruit. He responded that both MSU, and OSU saw him in camp, and the coaches felt his development had peaked, and that other players had edged ahead of him. Programs that expressed interest in him early were no longer pursuing him. He was very high on PSU (visited multiple times), and they suddenly appeared to have lost interest in him.
Maybe the loss of interest by several programs that he coveted will be enough to spark motivation that will allow him to live up to his high ranking. We'll all learn the answer over the next several years.
As IU has found out the hard way in the past "all that glitters is not gold" ... We'll know who had the best class in about three years and not before... Arguing about it now, or even being concerned about it is a wasted effort (in my opinion)...
I’d be alright with it if IU starts bowling with regularity and ideally wins some of those bowls. If we get a half dozen bowl seasons in a row we can start clamoring for more. And yes, it’d be nice to beat an OSU or Michigan is Penn State sometimes. Especially Michigan. We’re always right freaking there with those guys and can’t get the W.
At the rate both schools are recruiting,
From what I understand Faucheux wants to play DT and most programs think he is a better fit on the OL. Purdue pursued him to play DT like he wanted.
From what I understand Faucheux wants to play DT and most programs think he is a better fit on the OL. Purdue pursued him to play DT like he wanted.
as MTOTF said. he did fairly well in the big sissy division.
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Both coaches are recruiting well. Brohm has more to sell in terms of PT, he should be killing IU with this class and he is not. Your position may ultimately prove to be true, but the early evidence is not there.
It wasn't ground up obviously but Wilson had fumbled in the areas of OL and QB recruiting which is astonishing given his offensive reputation. Allen has a greater challenge than he should have.
Purdue is such an ugly duckling, no idea what kids see in that place. Four star players picking that dump is suspicious.
PT as a selling point is incredibly overrated. Most recruits aren’t going to play a live snap for a team until at least 2 years after they commit. In two years time the team won’t look anything like it did when they committed. Plus injuries happen. Even if a team looks like it will be full up at a certain position injuries can change that real quick.
Point being that I don’t think having PT available alone will lead to recruits lining up to play for someone. If it did then rutger would be top of the B1G in recruiting every year.
I mean no, not really. It leaves out the entire bottom half of Purdue’s class. A bottom half which isn’t very good.
Now we are speculating on top targets? And which rating system are you wanting to use?
Point is that you are presenting recruit profiles to better suit your argument about PU having a good class and "wow we have a shot at this guy too!".
Take the rivals ranking for example. PU has five players ranked as 2 stars. IU has two 2 stars. IUs class must be better.
One thing not to be overlooked is that none of these guys are signed on either team.
And the lowest ranked recruit for IU right now is a LS ranked #1, #4, or #6 in the 19 class depending on where you look...
Do your homework before posting meaningless numbers side by side.
Take a poll across the conference as to who has the ugliest campus/town combo. You’ll quickly find out that crimson colored glasses aren’t necessary.
Doubt 4&5 star players have much if any interest in
landscaping.
Probably afraid she would never come back home.
Head over to OffTackleEmpire or reddit. All the B1G schools trash on West Lafayette. You don’t have to get defensive about it. Every town has problems. Bloomington has issues with homelessness and while I wouldn’t call it unsafe the crime rate isn’t exactly as low as, for instance, Fishers.
Urgency…..he's pressing the gas pedal. What a wonderful resume builder to show schools that he can put together a national class at Purdue by August 1st. Pretty clear this will be Brohm's last season at Purdue, and he's done what he needed to do to impress the money schools with the record, bowl win, and now impressive recruit class, some of which he will bring with him to the SEC or ACC I'm sure.They just picked up commits from 2 studs tonight.
- TJ Scheffield (WR) - TN
- Steven Faucheux (DT) - OH
They already had commits from 4-stars:
- Marvin Grant (CB) - MI
- Mershawn Rice (ATH) - OH
- George Karlaftis (DE) - IN
As much as we may want to downplay it, that's a real impressive haul in year 2. So what is Brohm selling that's causing this in-flow of top talent?
I think it's important for IU to pull in Cam Williams or some other heavies this year. I think things are headed in the right direction under Allen, but if Brohm stays a while, that could be a complication. The optics are important. All that said, I'm cheering for every Louisville opponent this year.
Here’s a crazy thought: both schools are going to be, or at least appear to be, bringing in good classes full of multiple four stars and a lot of three stars. Which would set up a meaningful, competitive series.
I know, it’s a pretty wild idea.
(It’s also July)
I know, it’s a pretty wild idea.
(It’s also July)
And he also beat us so that pretty much nullifies that argument. It would be different if we beat them and they still ended up with the better season.
as MTOTF said. he did fairly well in the big sissy division.
Only one school has a class full of multiple four stars. The series might actually stay lopsided, just with a different team on top than has been the last few years.
Yeah.
We shoulda just resigned ourselves to another complete burndown after Wilson left.
That has always always worked in the past and its the only thing that woulda worked then.
Sort of like zone defense.
Get a whole new staff with a big name at the top, and give 'em 2-3 years to get some players in here.
Hiring a defensive guy was a mistake.
Even a good one.
Hell, even a GREAT one.
Offense has always been what got IU to the top.
I bet that Leach guy from Texas Tech woulda come here.
Maybe Mumme, or the guy at Troy who was their protege'
We coulda been slinging it Air Raid style.
Wait just a second. What gives you or anyone else the idea that Allen is staying for the long haul? His previous stints don't indicate that he has in any way.
Allen building the program from the ground up? Only Glass fans would say that. That perception is exactly what the AD is hoping to fool the masses.
Brohm is doing a fine job. Allen would be too if he would dump Mike Debord.
That's the guy holding us back. Hes awful.
That's the guy holding us back. Hes awful.
Not sure about all of this hero worship of Brohm is all about. He got two more wins than Tom Allen in year one. IU had no proven running back, a ton of injuries on the offensive line which was inexperienced to begin with. Lost their best receiver from a year ago. They had a qb that was up and down and then played a freshman who was hurt, a they had some injuries on the defensive side of the ball and played a much tougher schedule than Purdue. Yes they blew the Maryland game and lost head to head to Purdue but I am not ready to say that Brohm is all that much better than Tom a Allen if he is at all
Don’t worry about Coach Deboard he is excellent football coach and play caller. As you said too many injuries in key spots and inexperience.
Seriously, have you listened to the guy speak? Do you know anything about his background? He's a native Hoosier. His previous stints didn't involve college head coaching positions. This is his dream job, like it was for Coach Hep. If he's successful, he's not going anywhere.
Not with you because you suck. We all know what you think and the majority of this board thinks you're a crazy old man with ridiculous anti-IU opinions.
