Yeah but one is an elected official in the most powerful political body in the world and the other gets high and writes jokes. What the hell is this country coming to. Can you imagine Tip O’Neil or Bob Dole doing this shit.
Doesn’t say much for the IQ of Texas voters either.
I wouldn’t worry about Texas voters. People are fleeing the blue states for tx in droves. They’re doing something right
Yep. And because of this Texas will be blue within 10 years.
Attracting the kind of people to flip their state blue? Yeah, I'd say that's doing something right.
I actually wonder. Same with fla. we’ll see. Homestead. No state income. Cheap college. Will be interesting what they look like in a decade
For the most part, people aren't moving from California to the middle of the prairie. They are moving to growing urban areas, attracted by jobs, and they are bringing their modern, progressive ideas with them.
My understanding is it's both. Transplants are shifting the state left, but so are Texans because of both age demos and an increasing voter participation rate among Hispanics.
People are fleeing states like California not for politics, but rather natural disasters, like fires and earthquakes.
I don’t know if that’s true. Austin is picking up silicon tech and Miami is picking up Wall Street types. No state income, business friendly, Covid allowing folks to work from home with big lots is pushing the move. I have zero reason to believe they’re bringing progressive anything with them. Ellison isn’t. Musk isn’t.
Yep. Austin and Dallas growth has been nuts. Austin is a very progressive area.
Right but it’s what Goat is alluding to. Large urban sprawl population out growing the rural parts of the state.
I suppose it might really end up depending on what the state parties care about. Everyone loves low taxes, but these new arrivals aren't going to join the FL and TX GOP so they can fight against gays and immigrants.
The CEOs who are worth billions are in many cases different than their employees.
He's saying Texas is being urbanized, and there's no indication these new urbanites are going to vote Republican. I was pointing out that this urbanization is partially a result of transplants from other states, which are largely moving to cities, not to the country. So add 2 + 2 and you get Blue.
People moving to traditionally red states are the kind of folks moving to more urban areas. I would rate urban and suburban areas as more blue than rural areas.
As I said to goat that doesn’t hold for fla. from what I’ve gathered many are fleeing taxes and biz regulations. It would be contradictory to then go to a red state and vote in kind with what you fled
The FL and TX GOP don’t fight against gays and immigrants. We leave that to MS and AL.
Businesses might relocate due to taxes and regulations, and employees might follow, but the people themselves aren't relocating for those reasons.
Possible Texas is more cosmopolitan than Florida. There’s some truth to both arguments we’re making I suspect.
Of course they do. Startups. Startups can yield a 100k a year and be sustainable in fla and tax. Single member llcs. Fla has no income tax. Fav biz regs. Homestead. 11 Public universities under 7 grand. Affordable homes. You think people are going to come from calif to that and vote for the oppressive calif bs? Nonsense.
It's possible that FL and TX are not mirrors. Both are experiencing growth, but one is shifting blue while the other is decidedly not.
I meant mirrors as to taxes/biz Reg etc. I don’t know. Calif is going to Texas and ny/nj is going to fla.
Yeah, I know what you were saying, but I'm just pointing out there are other ways they may differ.
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The influx coming in from ny nj largely go to palm beach, broward, and dade.
