Stories seem to be clear that this officer had a history, especially with the black students. Would you want her to still "respect her elders" in that situation? Shouldn't kids also be taught to stand up for themselves in the face of injustice?
I read the article. It went far beyond what you are currently claiming. At least 50% of the opposition to you in this thread right now is probably actually a response to the drivel in that article you endorsed.
There was a black female student interviewed who said she liked the officer and that he was "fair" and "nice" and only kids who didn't comply were an issue. Where in the hell is the "injustice" in a teacher in a HS class asking a student to put away their phone? Where in the fvck are you guys coming from? It's ridiculous.
I thought you understood what we were talking about?
No. What's "stupid as shit, dude" is saying "shouldn't kids be taught to stand up to injustice" in the context of this situation. That statement has no place here. There was no injustice, so there was nothing for her to stand up to. She was being a punk a$$ little b!tch and none of this had to happen if she just has some respect for the teacher AND the officer. That's my point.
EDIT: Are we ever going to get beyond playing the race card! Ever? Not all of the black students had a problem with him. The ones who were supposedly involved with gang activity did. Do you live there? Do you know that to be unfounded? Why would other minority students defend him if he were racist?
So now she's a gangbanger?
She's not. Other students (including black students) said that he had run ins with students who were known to be involved in gang activity and that he was a nice guy. Where in the hell did I say anything about her being involved with gang activity? He was wrong to do what he did but, again, other black students have said that he was a nice guy (nor racist). This is about her noncompliance and his overreaction. Jeebus can we please quit making every fvcking thing about race. It's ridiculous. That doesn't make me Scott. If you want to hold her blameless for all this, you're a fvcking idiot and part of the problem. I'm done.
You're right. And my point is that none of that happens if she has ANY respect for either the teacher or the officer. How would you handle that situation, Ziz? I'm serious. Just curious.
Nah. That was the one from the fall of 2012 and involved $ and TMP, before (rightfully) getting piled on by the entire board. Dude, I said that the officer was/is wrong in what he did. I'm just saying that none of that happens of that girl isn't a little beotch. It's not a racial thing. It's a punk a$$ kid thing. It's a sore spot with me because I know and see so many kids who's parents don't give a chit or rationalize their chitty behavior. I'm not $hitter bat chit crazy. Now if I start calling her a mewling quim....
Dammit! I do not care about race. The cop WAS WRONG for doing what he did. Regardless of race. And I KNOW I would feel the exact same way if it were a "pretty blonde white girl". As I said, I've watched so many kids of people I know act out and their parents rationalize their behavior or just literally say "well, what are you gonna do?" These are white kids. Spoiled, entitled white kids. It's not about race. It's about being taught respect and empathy for others and the golden rule. That's it.
Your problem is you are equating any of what I said with wanting to "hold her blameless." I don't know if she is a trouble student. But I do know that the cop did not behave appropriately.
If you want to make excuses for why she wouldn't comply with the teacher's request and abide by the rules that everyone else has to, you're welcome to. While sad, it doesn't excuse her from behaving that way. She was far from a model student prior to all of that. But go ahead and create a bullchit narrative to create an excuse.
It doesn't matter what the reasoning, she was wrong. EVERYONE gets that, but the actions of the officer were unwarranted and completely over the top. DO YOU GET THAT? That's the issue. Not if she was a "punk ass gangsta b*tch", but that the short dicked over compensating never got laid in HS cop used excessive force.
If everyone complied with the rules and respected authority, we wouldn't need cops. Welcome to Earth.
You're right. Fvck it. Everybody should just quit trying. Don't try to teach kids respect. Welcome to rationalizing chit down to the lowest level. Then again, we are all IU basketball fans so this is, I suppose, par for the course.
