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[snarlcakes]

I give Obama, Trump, and Biden's policy decisions all a fair amount of credit for the good and bad situations we're in.

With regards to inflation, and the overall economy...

Obama's Presidency stabilized an economy that was on the brink of an actual depression. But in doing so, there were social safety nets created, that were to have some longer lasting impacts on the economy.

This is where we’re going to part ways. I disagree with your conclusions. Obama didn’t stabilize anything. They printed a trillion dollars and papered over the problem. Also,
Obamacare dragged out the recovery and made it the slowest recovery in history.

Trump benefitted greatly from the stabilized economy that Obama's admin handed off to him. Trump's policies accelerated growth in some areas, for sure. But there were also longer lasting consequences that his decisions were always going to have to be dealt with. He didn't do anything to cut spending when he could have...and his Tax changes helped exacerbate the deficit issues we've been seeing since Clinton.

I agree Trump could have made cuts, but so could have Obama, Bush, and Biden. Also, tax receipts have increased since the taxes changes. You’re wrong on it.

Then Covid happened. No one could have predicted or prepared for it adequately. Trumps response was an enormous part of the current situation we're in financially.

This is complete rubbish. He did what everyone else would have done and did around the world.

I would contend that similar to Obama's bail outs in 08/09, Trumps own bailouts (PPE), were a natural and probably necessary reaction. But the impacts those had on our economy, along with prior tariffs, and his "choice" to not take advantage of the strong economic factors to help with the deficit...all that began the inflation issues.

The large increase in inflation came from Trump’s bills in 2020 and Biden’s 3 bills in 2021. Trump’s bills were both bipartisan because they were passed right after the Government forced people to close down. All of Biden’s bills were partisan bills that were unnecessary.

Then Biden got to office. Somehow, he had to pull us out of Covid. The policies he used were effective in that, but obviously they were like throwing gasoline on a fire with regards to inflation. I don't remember a ton of people blasting him for his early efforts though, when they were leading to record levels of business and profits. But like Trump, I think he took the easier way out to gain favor with his people by going too far with his safety net measures.

I blasted him and everyone I followed on X blasted him. They’re admittedly a mixture of conservatives, economists, and Bitcoiners.

Right, wrong, or indifferent, it seems like we're slowly starting to move back in the right direction with regards to inflation. Does Biden deserve any credit for that? I tend to think not really. But then, I don't give him nearly as much of the total blame as many on here do. I still think a very, very big majority if our inflation issues are still because of Covid, and the supply and overall business change issues Covid caused.

Having said ALL this...I dearly wish the GOP were nominating a normal, fiscally conservative candidate at the top of the ballot this year. And I fully intend to vote for candidates down ballot that appear to be smart, solid, and fiscally responsible candidates. I suspect I'll find more of them on the GOP side of the tickets, like most years.

If Biden didn’t pass the 3 spending bills in 21, he would probably be the favorite to win in November. Inflation would have been much more mild and he could have rode a strong market and economy.

However, they had an opportunity to implement a lot of new government programs and spending, so they did it while they can. It’s what Democrats always do. Give them control of all 3 branches and they’ll increase the size of Government. Biden dug his own grave (not that he ever had a say).

 

[zeke4ahs]

I thought they were “ultra MAGA” now. Stick to basketball talk. You’re out of your depth here.

Oh that’s rich

So the things you don’t like being said about Harris you want to freely say about trump despite not knowing for sure. And mark doesn’t understand the double standard…..

Again, let me know what Harris did sexually that was against the law or forced? That’s the difference. As I said, I hope that is one of the tactics Republicans use. If this board is reflective of the whole, it will be. And I think that will backfire spectacularly.

 

[zeke4ahs]

Can I ask you a question? Do Democrats have a man problem since most of their voters are women and they make a big deal about attacking men whenever it suits them? Is it a "man" problem to point out that the Donald has several failed marriages and is a womanizer? Is that a man problem or is that just picking a side?

If Trump's extracurricular activities are fair game, why would Kamala's not also be? Kamala is getting the equality she would tell everyone she deserves. If a straight, white, Republican male was accused of sleeping with a superior that led to him getting quid pro quo in the form of political support to win his office, you can damn sure bet that would be something he would have thrown in his face. So why should you ladies be any different?

It’s amazing to me that people can’t understand the difference in FORCING yourself on someone and having consensual sex.

 

[76-1]

Where'd ya find the Director Cheatle gif?

 

[IUCrazy2]

It’s amazing to me that people can’t understand the difference in FORCING yourself on someone and having consensual sex.

Nah, that is a dodge. I think the Carrol stuff is bull shit, but remove that, people talk about him doinking the pornstar, cheating on wives, "grab em by the (cat)", etc. (which are frankly all valid criticisms) and that is OK. Kamala, as alleged by quite a few people, was the mistress to a married man, 30 years her senior, who admits he appointed her to positions (some would say she was unqualified for) and helped her win races and this was because she was his "girlfriend" with all that entails.....

Former S.F. Mayor Willie Brown writes about dating Kamala Harris, appointing her to posts

In her 2003 run for San Francisco district attorney, Kamala Harris called Willie Brown an "albatross hanging around my neck."

www.usatoday.com

I don't know why Judge Brown thing got deleted. Here is half of the involved parties admitting, "Yep, I did that."

I think there are quite a few women who actually have excelled on their merits who would view this vapid airhead:



As an insult to them. She is a walking caricature.

ETA: I probably wouldn't attack her on it because you are right, that is what the media will run with and there is a large enough percentage of women out there who are complete hypocrites on this type of stuff. You end up with Kamala getting protected by guys white knighting and some women saying it is some sort of discrimination against all women to point out that a woman who clearly slept her way into a position she later took advantage of is somehow a reflection of all powerful women. Yes, it is a trope, but it is a trope that clearly applies in this instance. As you like to say about Trump, just choose a better woman.

 

[stollcpa]

So the things you don’t like being said about Harris you want to freely say about trump despite not knowing for sure. And mark doesn’t understand the double standard…..

Well Zeke is protected and can say anything she wants to say. Give her too much shit and you will end up on vacation.

 

[mcmurtry66]

Nah, that is a dodge. I think the Carrol stuff is bull shit, but remove that, people talk about him doinking the pornstar, cheating on wives, "grab em by the (cat)", etc. (which are frankly all valid criticisms) and that is OK. Kamala, as alleged by quite a few people, was the mistress to a married man, 30 years her senior, who admits he appointed her to positions (some would say she was unqualified for) and helped her win races and this was because she was his "girlfriend" with all that entails.....

Former S.F. Mayor Willie Brown writes about dating Kamala Harris, appointing her to posts

In her 2003 run for San Francisco district attorney, Kamala Harris called Willie Brown an "albatross hanging around my neck."

www.usatoday.com

I don't know why Judge Brown thing got deleted. Here is half of the involved parties admitting, "Yep, I did that."

I think there are quite a few women who actually have excelled on their merits who would view this vapid airhead:

View embedded media

As an insult to them. She is a walking caricature.

… not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character. Irony.

Speaking of old joe brown he has an interesting history with James earl ray

 

[MyTeamIsOnTheFloor]

Trump's junk probably stopped working a long time ago, hence the rumors of Melania having a side piece.

As to Trump's being a rapist or not, let's just go with the facts: The Judge in the E. Jean Carroll assault case expressed his opinion that Trump more than likely committed rape.

So instead of shouting "Trump is a rapist", say "Trump is a rapist, in the opinion of a judge who reviewed all evidence in the Carroll case"

Careful. Zeke will smite you for slut-shaming Melania. Her motto is “Always believe the woman - except the ones who accuse Bill Clinton. They lie.”

 

[IUclover]

Nah, that is a dodge. I think the Carrol stuff is bull shit, but remove that, people talk about him doinking the pornstar, cheating on wives, "grab em by the (cat)", etc. (which are frankly all valid criticisms) and that is OK. Kamala, as alleged by quite a few people, was the mistress to a married man, 30 years her senior, who admits he appointed her to positions (some would say she was unqualified for) and helped her win races and this was because she was his "girlfriend" with all that entails.....

Former S.F. Mayor Willie Brown writes about dating Kamala Harris, appointing her to posts

In her 2003 run for San Francisco district attorney, Kamala Harris called Willie Brown an "albatross hanging around my neck."

www.usatoday.com

I don't know why Judge Brown thing got deleted. Here is half of the involved parties admitting, "Yep, I did that."

I think there are quite a few women who actually have excelled on their merits who would view this vapid airhead:

View embedded media

As an insult to them. She is a walking caricature.

ETA: I probably wouldn't attack her on it because you are right, that is what the media will run with and there is a large enough percentage of women out there who are complete hypocrites on this type of stuff. You end up with Kamala getting protected by guys white knighting and some women saying it is some sort of discrimination against all women to point out that a woman who clearly slept her way into a position she later took advantage of is somehow a reflection of all powerful women. Yes, it is a trope, but it is a trope that clearly applies in this instance. As you like to say about Trump, just choose a better woman.

 

[IUNorth]

This is where we’re going to part ways. I disagree with your conclusions. Obama didn’t stabilize anything. They printed a trillion dollars and papered over the problem. Also,
Obamacare dragged out the recovery and made it the slowest recovery in history.

I agree Trump could have made cuts, but so could Obama, Bush, and Biden. Also, tax receipts have increased since the taxes changes. You’re wrong on it.

This is complete rubbish. He did what everyone else would have done and did around the world.

The large increase in inflation came from Trump’s bills in 2020 and Biden’s 3 bills in 2021. Trump’s bills were both bipartisan because they were passed right after the Government forced people to close down. All of Biden’s bills were partisan bills that were unnecessary.

I blasted him and everyone I followed on X blasted him. They’re admittedly a mixture of conservatives, economists, and Bitcoiners.

If Biden didn’t pass the 3 spending bills in 21, he would probably be the favorite to win in November. Inflation would have been much more mild and he could have rode a strong market and economy.

However, they had an opportunity to implement a lot of new government programs and spending, so they did it while they can. It’s what Democrats always do. Give them control of all 3 branches and they’ll increase the size of Government. Biden dug his own grave (not that he ever had a say).

Obama was FAR from perfect...heck I voted for Romney in 12... But to say Obama didn't stabilize anything is absurd. Like...makes me not believe you, at all really, that you didn't vote for Trump in 16 and 20 levels of absurdity and disbelief. That's a MAGA viewpoint. We were in a recession, plunging in to a depression. He acted decisively. And history shows those actions ended up being stabilizing forces in some key areas, and eventually things bottomed out and moved back in the right direction. I'm not a big fan of Obamacare, overall. And the rollout was awful. But bringing more people in to the fold of the insured, eliminating pre existing conditions, and some of the benefits for prescription drug prices, have helped quite a lot of millions of Americans. Again, not an overall fan, but there were economic benefits of it to many, many people. And it has been, and could be, argued the overall economy. The recover was slow MUCH more as a result of the fundamental changes to banking institutions than anything Obamacare did. That reeks of something a MAGA person might use as a BS talking point to pull due credit away from Obama. Also...with regards to inflation...I agree, Obama's policies are baked in to our current inflationary pressures...to my original point.

Tax receipts increased because the economy continued to increase. And then from the Covid explosion in revenue and profits in many/most industries.

My literal next sentence was about how it was likely necessary.

Just like everyone in your "X" world would have blasted Obama for the car bailout. But how no one blasted Trump for PPE? Shit got dicey, real quickly, so they did some things to help out. I actually agree on the Biden stuff being "more" unnecessary. But when Biden took office, we were still very much in the middle of Covid. And there was still A LOT of uncertainty. History now shows that he over reacted. And I'm sure part of that was to get some of the programs pushed through he wanted to. Shitty. Kind of like cutting taxes for the wealthy at a time when they don't need taxes cut. Both were attempts to help their people...not sure that can be argued. And both have had a negative long term impact in other areas.

Biden ended up losing his lead for a lot of failures and reasons. Inflation and immigration being the key policy reasons...but quite obviously, Biden's physical and mental health concerns are the singular biggest factor he ended up as far behind as he was. 1 year ago, during the height of the inflation issues, Trump wasn't even known to be running... If Biden had stayed as relatively cognizant and healthy as Trump has...Relatively is an important term...then this race would still be very tight. Anyone with a normally functioning brain and the ability to respond in real time, would have DESTROYED Trump in that debate. His performance was the 2nd worst, probably, in political history. Just so happens he was facing the worst.

Every President and Party, when/if given the opportunity for all 3 branches, pushes their own policies and agenda.

It should be obvious that there's a lag in impacts that policy decisions have on new Presidents. I used an analogy about Biden pouring gasoline on the inflation fire...I don't think that is actually accurate. More like, he put some logs on an established, large, simmering fire, that hadn't erupted yet in to a large blaze. The logs caught, as anyone would know they would, but the fire didn't erupt immediately... And the fact that the fire hasn't gone out of control, and seems to be back and is starting to become more manageable...

Well, if nothing else, he's going to hand off some decent conditions for the next President to be able to claim they're miracle workers. Economists are pretty mixed on which side will do better with what they're inheriting. With Tax and Tariff concerns being the biggest concerns with a Trump victory.

 

[outside shooter]

Careful. Zeke will smite you for slut-shaming Melania. Her motto is “Always believe the woman - except the ones who accuse Bill Clinton. They lie.”

Who said Melania is a slut? If your husband (pretty much in name only) is an impotent, obese, diaper-wearing, mean-mouthed fool who, when he used to be able to get it up, regularly CHEATED on you, then you deserve to seek your own happiness. It's probably even an "arrangement"

BTW, I think Bill Clinton was despicable in character and believe many of his accusers. I never voted for him. But in hindsight, fiscally speaking, he had a really sound administration.

 

[zeke4ahs]

Well Zeke is protected and can say anything she wants to say. Give her too much shit and you will end up on vacation.

Why don’t you just cut and paste this for your weekly tirade? I’m on your mind way too much. Not healthy.

 

[zeke4ahs]

Careful. Zeke will smite you for slut-shaming Melania. Her motto is “Always believe the woman - except the ones who accuse Bill Clinton. They lie.”

Where did I ever say anything close to that? You should attempt to tell the truth.

 

[snarlcakes]

Obama was FAR from perfect...heck I voted for Romney in 12... But to say Obama didn't stabilize anything is absurd. Like...makes me not believe you, at all really, that you didn't vote for Trump in 16 and 20 levels of absurdity and disbelief. That's a MAGA viewpoint. We were in a recession, plunging in to a depression. He acted decisively. And history shows those actions ended up being stabilizing forces in some key areas, and eventually things bottomed out and moved back in the right direction. I'm not a big fan of Obamacare, overall. And the rollout was awful. But bringing more people in to the fold of the insured, eliminating pre existing conditions, and some of the benefits for prescription drug prices, have helped quite a lot of millions of Americans. Again, not an overall fan, but there were economic benefits of it to many, many people. And it has been, and could be, argued the overall economy. The recover was slow MUCH more as a result of the fundamental changes to banking institutions than anything Obamacare did. That reeks of something a MAGA person might use as a BS talking point to pull due credit away from Obama. Also...with regards to inflation...I agree, Obama's policies are baked in to our current inflationary pressures...to my original point.

I voted for Obama in 08 and 12. I didn’t vote for Trump in 16 and 20. I’ll go a step further and admit I was wrong not voting for Trump in 20. In 2016 I was in the process of transitioning from a liberal to a conservative. I am voting for Trump in November. I have zero reason to lie to you. I’m extremely blunt on here and generally am in person as well. I don’t lie to people though. Call me whatever you want.

If you don’t think Obamacare didn’t slow down the recovery, you’re helpless when it comes to understanding economies. It’s not even a debate.

Tax receipts increased because the economy continued to increase. And then from the Covid explosion in revenue and profits in many/most industries.

They increased as percentage of GDP as well. You’re still wrong. You can literally Google it.

My literal next sentence was about how it was likely necessary.

Just like everyone in your "X" world would have blasted Obama for the car bailout. But how no one blasted Trump for PPE? Shit got dicey, real quickly, so they did some things to help out. I actually agree on the Biden stuff being "more" unnecessary.

If you want to be consistent and say all bailouts are unnecessary, I agree, but you don’t strike me as the type of person would have been for not shutting down the economy in 2020 or not bailing out the banks in 08.

But when Biden took office, we were still very much in the middle of Covid. And there was still A LOT of uncertainty. History now shows that he over reacted. And I'm sure part of that was to get some of the programs pushed through he wanted to. Shitty. Kind of like cutting taxes for the wealthy at a time when they don't need taxes cut. Both were attempts to help their people...not sure that can be argued. And both have had a negative long term impact in other areas.

Biden ended up losing his lead for a lot of failures and reasons. Inflation and immigration being the key policy reasons...but quite obviously, Biden's physical and mental health concerns are the singular biggest factor he ended up as far behind as he was. 1 year ago, during the height of the inflation issues, Trump wasn't even known to be running... If Biden had stayed as relatively cognizant and healthy as Trump has...Relatively is an important term...then this race would still be very tight. Anyone with a normally functioning brain and the ability to respond in real time, would have DESTROYED Trump in that debate. His performance was the 2nd worst, probably, in political history. Just so happens he was facing the worst.

Every President and Party, when/if given the opportunity for all 3 branches, pushes their own policies and agenda.

It should be obvious that there's a lag in impacts that policy decisions have on new Presidents. I used an analogy about Biden pouring gasoline on the inflation fire...I don't think that is actually accurate. More like, he put some logs on an established, large, simmering fire, that hadn't erupted yet in to a large blaze. The logs caught, as anyone would know they would, but the fire didn't erupt immediately... And the fact that the fire hasn't gone out of control, and seems to be back and is starting to become more manageable...

Well, if nothing else, he's going to hand off some decent conditions for the next President to be able to claim they're miracle workers. Economists are pretty mixed on which side will do better with what they're inheriting. With Tax and Tariff concerns being the biggest concerns with a Trump victory.

You sure do bend over backwards to justify shitty liberal policies. I’ll go back to my original thought, maybe you’re just a liberal 🤷🏻‍♂️

 

[stollcpa]

Why don’t you just cut and paste this for your weekly tirade? I’m on your mind way too much. Not healthy.

What I said about you regarding Mark is a fact. Posters have been treated unfairly when compared to what you get by with. I will repeat that every time I wish.

 

[zeke4ahs]

What I said about you regarding Mark is a fact. Posters have been treated unfairly when compared to what you get by with. I will repeat that every time I wish.

Uh huh like I said. Trump taught his team well. Always the victim.

 

[T.M.P.]

What I said about you regarding Mark is a fact

Actually, it's a subjective opinion from your interpretation of events, as it cannot be proven in any concrete way. The argument to the contrary is that she is picked on for being female which also cannot actually be proven. So neither opinion is fact.

I'm not arguing that it's either, I really don't GAFF about high school drama, feelings of collateral oppressive victimization, or whose feels are hurt.

I'm arguing it's not a fact and shouldn't be presented as one. You could have left that word out and still would have gotten your message across. The word fact has an absolute definition.

That's all, have a nice day ..

 

[DANC]

Can I ask you a question? Do Democrats have a man problem since most of their voters are women and they make a big deal about attacking men whenever it suits them? Is it a "man" problem to point out that the Donald has several failed marriages and is a womanizer? Is that a man problem or is that just picking a side?

If Trump's extracurricular activities are fair game, why would Kamala's not also be? Kamala is getting the equality she would tell everyone she deserves. If a straight, white, Republican male was accused of sleeping with a superior that led to him getting quid pro quo in the form of political support to win his office, you can damn sure bet that would be something he would have thrown in his face. So why should you ladies be any different?

A married superior......

 

[Upset Alert]

Skamala won't win is all that matters. Trash nominee if true lol.

 

[Victorbmyboy]

Heels up Harris would love to get one night with “The Don”. She’s just not hot enough.

Also, it would be a perfect ending to this election cycle if Trump and Harris end up banging.

It’s more likely they hooked up once upon a time. 😑🤣