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I don’t think it’s against the rules because those kinds of rules don’t apply to POTUS I don’t think.

I also don’t think it’s necessarily unprecedented because politicians are always celebrating buying American or different companies, even if not quite as directly as he did with Tesla.

From a practical perspective, I’d think it’s more counterproductive to have a POTUS specifically endorsing your product because it becomes a politicized product, which is not something most companies would want.


I assume it's not illegal.
 
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I think the question is can Trump convince the people who bought all the Trump branded products to buy a Tesla? I fully agree it normally isn't there thing, though it seems the cybertruck has made inroads. If I were Musk, a red, white, and blue Tesla called POTUS or some such might well do it.

He isn't selling many to liberals now. If he wants to keep the product going, he needs someone to buy them. If there is to be a pivot, Trump is the man.
$18 and $80k is a big difference. Too many videos of electric trucks having issues for work etc. my hoosier uncles love trump. All nailpounders. Not a chance in hell they’re buying electric
 
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Tesla’s future growth is based on driverless cars. If you think they won’t do it, I suggest taking a ride in one. You can go on a 30 minute drive now and not touch the wheel once. It’s pretty wild.
Driverless cars is coming. I am not sure which company will win that as Waymo has some success too. Tesla's decision to not use LIDAR at all is, uhm, interesting. They use cameras, AI scans each frame and tries to decipher what is in it. LIDAR has limitations, but I'm not so sure the solution won't end up LIDAR and camera. Each tends to address the weakness of the other. Plus, I suspect when the big lawsuits happen, having both gives the attorneys a much better argument.

The biggest single drawback to LIDAR is cost. But I suspect it will come down with more cars using it. It will be like high def TVs, the first couple of years only the wealthier will have it.
 
And that MF'er completely shut down Columbia Parkway Monday morning just so he could go back to DC. Shut it down at Delta in the middle of rush hour.
Trump has been flying to PBI airport (West Palm) almost every weekend to play golf. Often at Friday rush hour. Really messes up everything with multiple airport & road shutdowns.

Most in Palm Beach County are looking forward to hotter weather and him not coming here so often.

BTW, is DOGE going to look into these frequent super-expensive transcontinental golf outings?
 
Trump has been flying to PBI airport (West Palm) almost every weekend to play golf. Often at Friday rush hour. Really messes up everything with multiple airport & road shutdowns.

Most in Palm Beach County are looking forward to hotter weather and him not coming here so often.

BTW, is DOGE going to look into these frequent super-expensive transcontinental golf outings?
We were promised that this was ALL Trump was going to do.
Predictions made, predictions shown to be totally worthless.
 
Driverless cars is coming. I am not sure which company will win that as Waymo has some success too. Tesla's decision to not use LIDAR at all is, uhm, interesting. They use cameras, AI scans each frame and tries to decipher what is in it. LIDAR has limitations, but I'm not so sure the solution won't end up LIDAR and camera. Each tends to address the weakness of the other. Plus, I suspect when the big lawsuits happen, having both gives the attorneys a much better argument.

The biggest single drawback to LIDAR is cost. But I suspect it will come down with more cars using it. It will be like high def TVs, the first couple of years only the wealthier will have it.
The benefit of cameras is that they can "read" signs and do a better job at deciphering other things the car sees. For example, if you are entering a construction zone where the speed limit changes depending on whether active work is happening, LIDAR does no good. As you said, cameras + LIDAR seems like the better solution, especially once the cost of LIDAR comes down.
 
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$18 and $80k is a big difference. Too many videos of electric trucks having issues for work etc. my hoosier uncles love trump. All nailpounders. Not a chance in hell they’re buying electric
I was interested in the new VW ID. BUZZ (the EV van similar to the old style VW vans).

Problem is, they start at $60,000 and only have a range of 234 miles. At best, I could make it from Cincinnati to Toledo (3.5 hours) and that's it. That ain't going to work.
 
I was interested in the new VW ID. BUZZ (the EV van similar to the old style VW vans).

Problem is, they start at $60,000 and only have a range of 234 miles. At best, I could make it from Cincinnati to Toledo (3.5 hours) and that's it. That ain't going to work.
Damn!!! That’s not cheap.
 
LOL Yep. I actually have.

Lately I have been seeing quite a few in our township - which is a fairly red area.
Just how red is the township I live in? Not only do we have a store whose only products are Trump-themed merchandise, in the seven months its been in business it has never once been vandalized.

The store is closing this Sunday, but the owner is going to sell Trump-themed merchandise from a tent located in Dry Ridge, Kentucky - right by the Ark Encounter and Creation Museum. The Ark Encounter is that crazy theme park that is a replica of Noah's Ark, and the Creation Museum includes displays of dinosaurs and humans frolicking together. The guy clearly knows his customer base.

https://www.cincinnati.com/story/ne...is-closing-this-weekend/82272348007/?tbref=hp

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Just how red is the township I live in? Not only do we have a store whose only products are Trump-themed merchandise, in the seven months its been in business it has never once been vandalized.

The store is closing this Sunday, but the owner is going to sell Trump-themed merchandise from a tent located in Dry Ridge, Kentucky - right by the Ark Encounter and Creation Museum. The Ark Encounter is that crazy theme park that is a replica of Noah's Ark, and the Creation Museum includes displays of dinosaurs and humans frolicking together. The guy clearly knows his customer base.

https://www.cincinnati.com/story/ne...is-closing-this-weekend/82272348007/?tbref=hp

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Yeah, but, your woke high school changed its logo/mascot from Indians to Raptors.

And couldn’t even keep Joe Burrow’s house from being burglarized while the Bengals were in Dallas.
 
Just how red is the township I live in? Not only do we have a store whose only products are Trump-themed merchandise, in the seven months its been in business it has never once been vandalized.

The store is closing this Sunday, but the owner is going to sell Trump-themed merchandise from a tent located in Dry Ridge, Kentucky - right by the Ark Encounter and Creation Museum. The Ark Encounter is that crazy theme park that is a replica of Noah's Ark, and the Creation Museum includes displays of dinosaurs and humans frolicking together. The guy clearly knows his customer base.

https://www.cincinnati.com/story/ne...is-closing-this-weekend/82272348007/?tbref=hp

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Ha we used to have a Noah’s ark


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Just how red is the township I live in? Not only do we have a store whose only products are Trump-themed merchandise, in the seven months its been in business it has never once been vandalized.

The store is closing this Sunday, but the owner is going to sell Trump-themed merchandise from a tent located in Dry Ridge, Kentucky - right by the Ark Encounter and Creation Museum. The Ark Encounter is that crazy theme park that is a replica of Noah's Ark, and the Creation Museum includes displays of dinosaurs and humans frolicking together. The guy clearly knows his customer base.

https://www.cincinnati.com/story/ne...is-closing-this-weekend/82272348007/?tbref=hp

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Human/dinosaur coexistence is obviously absurd, but maybe the Ark story isn’t.

 
Human/dinosaur coexistence is obviously absurd, but maybe the Ark story isn’t.

I’d bet the ranch that all the research in the world will not demonstrate that there was an ark of that size, if for no other reason than a wooden ship of that size couldn’t be built and remain seaworthy.
 
There are marine fossils high up in the Rockies, too. That doesn't mean that the mountains as they exist now were ever under water from any global flood. It means that plate tectonics is real. It means that ancient sea beds have been elevated by plate tectonics to rise even above the current tree line.
 
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The benefit of cameras is that they can "read" signs and do a better job at deciphering other things the car sees. For example, if you are entering a construction zone where the speed limit changes depending on whether active work is happening, LIDAR does no good. As you said, cameras + LIDAR seems like the better solution, especially once the cost of LIDAR comes down.
The camera system clearly couldn't understand a fire truck stopped, lights on, in the middle of an interstate, and ran into it. With LIDAR the AI would have known that there was something solid there even if it couldn't discern what it was.

The LIDAR system has to rely on GPS for speed limits, which doesn't work so well for temporary changes.

 
There are marine fossils high up in the Rockies, too. That doesn't mean that the mountains as they exist now were ever under water from any global flood. It means that plate tectonics is real. It means that ancient sea beds have been elevated by plate tectonics to rise even above the current tree line.
There were also redwood trees up in the Rockies. Highly recommend Florissant Fossil Beds National Monument if you're around the Colorado Springs area. Cool place and scenic. Also some nice disc golf courses out that way.
 
I’d bet the ranch that all the research in the world will not demonstrate that there was an ark of that size, if for no other reason than a wooden ship of that size couldn’t be built and remain seaworthy.

There are marine fossils high up in the Rockies, too. That doesn't mean that the mountains as they exist now were ever under water from any global flood. It means that plate tectonics is real. It means that ancient sea beds have been elevated by plate tectonics to rise even above the current tree line.
Oh ye of little/no faith!

Fine. I’ll concede Noah’s Ark. But when it gets closer to Easter, I’m starting a thread on the Shroud of Turin, and I don’t want to hear about carbon dating and/or “medieval fake” arguments. Bone up on Wide-Angle X-ray Scattering (WAXS).
 
Presidents aren’t allowed to drive. I don’t think former are either
They used to. LBJ did for sure, like a mad man, while at home in Texas. SS had to try to keep up in other cars. Pretty sure Carter did around his home town. GWB probably drove around his digs in Texas. Don’t know about others. It would be hard to give up driving.
 
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Pretty close to the premise of the joke as to why people get up in arms about drag queen story hour. They don't object to the drag queens, but the reading is unacceptable.
Drag Queen Bible study might make them short circuit. F*** it. I’m finding some drag queens and starting one.
 
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$18 and $80k is a big difference. Too many videos of electric trucks having issues for work etc. my hoosier uncles love trump. All nailpounders. Not a chance in hell they’re buying electric
The problem with electric is its ok if you just live in a city and dont drive anywhere. I bought a hybrid and thats good enough for me i take too many longer trips and dont want to waste time charging the darn thing. Has nothing to do with trump for me. My uncle bought a tesla and grove like 600 miles and was telling me about all the stops to charge it. I think his wife wanted it but they wasted alot of time stopping to charge it.
 
The problem with electric is its ok if you just live in a city and dont drive anywhere. I bought a hybrid and thats good enough for me i take too many longer trips and dont want to waste time charging the darn thing. Has nothing to do with trump for me. My uncle bought a tesla and grove like 600 miles and was telling me about all the stops to charge it. I think his wife wanted it but they wasted alot of time stopping to charge it.
You're untrainable. "Alot" is not a word! It's "a lot."
 
The problem with electric is its ok if you just live in a city and dont drive anywhere. I bought a hybrid and thats good enough for me i take too many longer trips and dont want to waste time charging the darn thing. Has nothing to do with trump for me. My uncle bought a tesla and grove like 600 miles and was telling me about all the stops to charge it. I think his wife wanted it but they wasted alot of time stopping to charge it.
You’d be great behind the wheel of a Beetle, Bailey
 
There is open speculation about all of these flip-flops allowing insider market trading by Trump cronies.

Sell, guys, I'm announcing tariffs tomorrow!
Buy, guys, I'm putting tariffs on hold tomorrow!
Sell, guys, I'm announcing still more tariffs tomorrow!
Buy, guys, I'm putting those tariffs on hold tomorrow, too!

No evidence that I am aware of, but it would not be out of character for this deep swamp administration
He knows what he's doing.

 
He knows what he's doing.

That reminds me of my mom complaining about how Walmart put all of the local shops out of business without coming to grips with the fact that she shopped exclusively at Walmart when they came to town.

A tariff is absolutely protectionist and can be put high enough that it makes American production competitive. But that will require people to be willing to pay the increased prices.

If someone has a discretionary income of $100 and they spend it all and then the price of those same products is now $180, then they have to decide what to spend money on and something will get cut. And people will lose jobs because product consumption will go down even though value of consumption is static. Or there will be downward pressure on wages, which people will resent.

Tariffs are inefficient and, not for nothing, if they successfully bring back American manufacturing, then we’re not buying foreign goods and then not collecting the tariffs either.
 
A crap ex


A crap economy Biden and his cronies created.
It was better economy than most of you give credit for by any measure other than inflation. And even inflation was not that bad compared to rest of the world coming out of COVID.

Just wait Van. It's about to get bad.
 
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