COH, we've been friends for more than two decades. I've provided many examples of where I see Trump/MAGA going off the GOP conservative rails, but you just won't see it. I'd rather not continue this with you.Examples?
COH, we've been friends for more than two decades. I've provided many examples of where I see Trump/MAGA going off the GOP conservative rails, but you just won't see it. I'd rather not continue this with you.Examples?
Everything is believed impt.Also, there is a side effect to this. I've been plugged in to the DoD and DoS (to a lesser extent) since I retired from the Navy in 2012. I'm hearing from tons of friends that work in those agencies and they're frickin' pissed. Most of them were Trump supporters and they're doing things that have been long considered extremely important to the US. These aren't the people a conservative President would want to piss off.
Yep. Also, Musk and Trump have the wealth and power/platforms to push back against all the shit getting flung at them nonstop from the media outlets. Everyone else would get f#cking destroyed.Nah. The warmongerers and gov dependents will never do it. This is the time
Warmongers? Are you kidding me? Trump and MAGA have been talking about taking the Panama Canal, or else. They're all in on taking Greenland, or else? Canada? Mexico? Gaza? MAGA has become the warmongers, and it happened quickly.Nah. The warmongerers and gov dependents will never do it. This is the time
No one is at war. Trump has fought to get nato countries to do more pay more etc. musk could affect real change for once. Who do you want? Self dealing Cheney? McCain types? Bush. Gtfo. There’s a reason they’ve been out for 3 decades. Wake up. The left and the right hate your politicsWarmongers? Are you kidding me? Trump and MAGA have been talking about taking the Panama Canal, or else. They're all in on taking Greenland, or else? Canada? Mexico? Gaza? MAGA has become the warmongers, and it happened quickly.
I’ve gotten three things from you:COH, we've been friends for more than two decades. I've provided many examples of where I see Trump/MAGA going off the GOP conservative rails, but you just won't see it. I'd rather not continue this with you.
To me it is just this, support the things worthy of supporting but please just keep the critical eye. Not everything going on here is great when the surface gets scratched. Don't let a reaction to the political opposition and how they have acted (or are perceived to have acted by us) to override core beliefs, ethics, and morality.COH, we've been friends for more than two decades. I've provided many examples of where I see Trump/MAGA going off the GOP conservative rails, but you just won't see it. I'd rather not continue this with you.
We are still friends. Allowing political disagreements to destroy friendships ain’t for us.COH, we've been friends for more than two decades. I've provided many examples of where I see Trump/MAGA going off the GOP conservative rails, but you just won't see it. I'd rather not continue this with you.
You can’t win wars when you can’t produce bullets. Being the world reserve currency has negative trade offs. The higher ups in the DoD are on board with a lot of Trump’s policies. Your friends might not like it, but status quo isn’t sustainable.Also, there is a side effect to this. I've been plugged in to the DoD and DoS (to a lesser extent) since I retired from the Navy in 2012. I'm hearing from tons of friends that work in those agencies and they're frickin' pissed. Most of them were Trump supporters and they're doing things that have been long considered extremely important to the US. These aren't the people a conservative President would want to piss off.
This is kind of where I’m at. I think this is all going to blow up spectacularly in Trump and Elons face, but at least they’re giving it a shot.How is trying to cut down the size of the federal government and rein in spending not conservative? You aren’t a conservatism if you aren’t for fiscal responsibility and balance budgets.
I have friends among the “higher ups” in DoD too. Your take is wrong.You can’t win wars when you can’t produce bullets. Being the world reserve currency has negative trade offs. The higher ups in the DoD are on board with a lot of Trump’s policies. Your friends might not like it, but status quo isn’t sustainable.
I disagree. There are some smart people who understand the situation.I have friends among the “higher ups” in DoD too. Your take is wrong.
To me it isn't that it is not the proper "conservative" way to do it. The issue is that it isn't following established laws, is therefore likely to not be long term, and it is being done in such a way that is creating a bunch of animosity and has been marred by mistakes that were easily avoidable if instead of bringing in a bunch of 20 year old hackers, they actually talked with people with some knowledge of the situation.This is kind of where I’m at. I think this is all going to blow up spectacularly in Trump and Elons face, but at least they’re giving it a shot.
But how can you say “we have to cut spending” and “well, this isn’t the proper conservative way to do it” at the same time?
That doesn’t make sense to me.
Yeah. All the higher ups I know are too stupid to understand.I disagree. There are some smart people who understand the situation.
It doesn’t mean someone is stupid if they don’t understand the current fiat system and trade offs of being the world reserve currency.Yeah. All the higher ups I know are too stupid to understand.
How many do you know?
People in DoD aren’t talking about that.It doesn’t mean someone is stupid if they don’t understand the current fiat system and trade offs of being the world reserve currency.
I think the President is talking about buying Greenland and Gaza. Canada really should become a state and leave their socialism because as we know socialism sucks the life's blood of the economy.Warmongers? Are you kidding me? Trump and MAGA have been talking about taking the Panama Canal, or else. They're all in on taking Greenland, or else? Canada? Mexico? Gaza? MAGA has become the warmongers, and it happened quickly.
You buy that nonsense? Canada will never be a state and we’ll never own Gaza, nor should we want to. Incredible you believe either of those stupid ideas. Trump knows how stupid his loyalists are.I think the President is talking about buying Greenland and Gaza. Canada really should become a state and leave their socialism because as we know socialism sucks the life's blood of the economy.
You need to become familiar with what Musk and his band of computer genius whiz kids are doing.
The old fashioned (and useless) way would be to start with the bureaucracy and look at orgs.
Musk isn’t doing that. His whiz kids go to the systems and using AI and algorithms sweeping through massive data sets like a hot knife through butter and finding patterns, looking for mismatches with appropriations and recipients. Nobody has done this ever and is why he is moving fast.
It’s mindless & lazy. People who don’t care what someone does in their personal life but approve of their policy or role in gov’t must be in a cult. So dumb…Now we are back to the cult thing again? That criticism is for those who can’t or won’t deal with substance.
I’m out.
The democrats were openly planning to expand the Supreme Court should they win the electoral capital to pull it off.To me it isn't that it is not the proper "conservative" way to do it. The issue is that it isn't following established laws, is therefore likely to not be long term, and it is being done in such a way that is creating a bunch of animosity and has been marred by mistakes that were easily avoidable if instead of bringing in a bunch of 20 year old hackers, they actually talked with people with some knowledge of the situation.