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Um. Are you living in Mayberry? That chick knew exactly what she was doing and got paid more money than she will working her entire life. And that kid will be set. Zero chance she ran to Walgreens for plan B

Slimy sure but there was no imbalance here. Misandry is latent in your post. It’s nothing to cheer but she’s no one to sympathize over

Isn't Musk partly living in Texas so child support is capped at like $2700?

I thought that's what I read about him and Grimmes.
 
Are you at all familiar with the platform she became "popular" for on the right? If her name is Lashonda and Elon is Tyrone and they are living in Detroit, we are screaming from the hilltops how morally and intellectually questionable it is for a guy to have 13 kids by 3 or 4 different women. Yeah, he has the financial means to take care of them and she maybe baby trapped him for her own reasons, but how is the base behavior any different? Remember that this guy is being touted as a genius above almost all of our levels that should be trusted to almost single handedly decide what our government should or should not do and it appears he isn't smart enough to keep from getting baby trapped by a Twotter thot or control his urges more than 18 year old Bubba in Appalachia when Betty Sue shows him her bra.

With his access, if I am the Chinese or Russians I am throwing my hotties at him every chance I get. Look how easy he was for a moderately attractive woman to hook into a stupid decision.

I wasn't sympathizing over her. I was criticizing both of them.
You wrote leaving her to be a single mom. That implies a rotten station in life. She won’t be single for long. And situation bears no resemblance to the hood single moms. His either really. It’s selfish and irresponsible but he can afford to provide unlike the hood scenarios.
 
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Do you really want to compare Hunter Biden and Elon Musk?

I’m a conservative. I also applaud the very significant Musk accomplishments. Hunter has accomplished exactly zilch.

I have no idea if Musk is a conservative. All I know is is that his problem solving skills are among the best and I am pleased he is applying those skills to the horrid state of our government/bureacracy/deep state.

None of that means I admire his oersonal life or how he treats subordinates. But he is autistic so he gets a little slack.
Not the same guy but same energy:

"I could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody, and I wouldn't lose any voters, OK?"

His problem solving skills seemed a little broke here didn't they? It is ok to criticize these guys when they are obviously making poor decisions. Stop feeling like you have to defend everything. You don't. And as a movement, we don't have to either. You have often said that a movement is more than a man, if we can't legitimately criticize the man (and he deserves it here) it really detracts from that assertion.

Again I will ask, what was conservative about this? Why was it worth applauding? If Elon isn't a conservative, why are we so scared to criticize when he (or Trump) appears to be undermining our core beliefs?

I don't get it.
 
You wrote leaving her to be a single mom. That implies a rotten station in life. She won’t be single for long. And situation bears no resemblance to the hood single moms. His either really. It’s selfish and irresponsible but he can afford to provide unlike the hood scenarios.
So this is just really a delineation between the peasants and the aristocracy. The aristocracy has the benefit of power and wealth to insulate themselves from their decisions and therefore we cannot judge them as harshly as the peasants.

And I am a realist enough to know that in practice, this is the case. However, we do have the power to heap some public scorn on them for their hypocrisy and perhaps revisit the power they have been given supposedly based on their superior intellectual skills. Yeah, they will land on their feet, because money, but absent money he is just a book smart Bubba whose little head overruled his big.
 
Again I will ask, what was conservative about this? Why was it worth applauding? If Elon isn't a conservative, why are we so scared to criticize when he (or Trump) appears to be undermining our core beliefs?
Exactly. I don’t think what Musk and DOGE are doing is necessarily conservative. It is simply making the executive department and its huge unwieldy bureaucracy more efficient, visible, and accountable. That should be non-partisan.
 
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So this is just really a delineation between the peasants and the aristocracy. The aristocracy has the benefit of power and wealth to insulate themselves from their decisions and therefore we cannot judge them as harshly as the peasants.

And I am a realist enough to know that in practice, this is the case. However, we do have the power to heap some public scorn on them for their hypocrisy and perhaps revisit the power they have been given supposedly based on their superior intellectual skills. Yeah, they will land on their feet, because money, but absent money he is just a book smart Bubba whose little head overruled his big.
Like half of fifa, the nba, Hollywood etc. only on roids bc he has true FU money

Hot chicks vs rich nerds
 
Exactly. I don’t think what Musk and DOGE are doing is necessarily conservative. It is simply making the executive department and its huge unwieldy bureaucracy more efficient, visible, and accountable. That should be non-partisan.
And it can be. And we can also question the manner they go about doing this. And it is somewhat separate from the criticism a 53 year old guy who knocks up a 24 or 25 year old for his 13th or 14th child out of wedlock richly deserves. And instead we have "conservatives" posting applauding memes.

That doesn't make sense to me outside of the context that we now have two concurrent and at times competing cults of personality in charge of the party.
 
And it can be. And we can also question the manner they go about doing this. And it is somewhat separate from the criticism a 53 year old guy who knocks up a 24 or 25 year old for his 13th or 14th child out of wedlock richly deserves. And instead we have "conservatives" posting applauding memes.

That doesn't make sense to me outside of the context that we now have two concurrent and at times competing cults of personality in charge of the party.
Disgusting post. 53 is NOT OLD!!! It’s actually the knew 35
 
And it can be. And we can also question the manner they go about doing this. And it is somewhat separate from the criticism a 53 year old guy who knocks up a 24 or 25 year old for his 13th or 14th child out of wedlock richly deserves. And instead we have "conservatives" posting applauding memes.

That doesn't make sense to me outside of the context that we now have two concurrent and at times competing cults of personality in charge of the party.
Now we are back to the cult thing again? That criticism is for those who can’t or won’t deal with substance.

I’m out.
 
And it can be. And we can also question the manner they go about doing this. And it is somewhat separate from the criticism a 53 year old guy who knocks up a 24 or 25 year old for his 13th or 14th child out of wedlock richly deserves. And instead we have "conservatives" posting applauding memes.

That doesn't make sense to me outside of the context that we now have two concurrent and at times competing cults of personality in charge of the party.
For some there’s adherence to a cult of personality. For many like myself we read and admire the business disruptors. The people who come up with new ways of doing things and disrupt an industry and enjoy wild success. Personally I invent and manufacture state of the art revolutionary award winning products no one wants. But I digress.

We view gov as bloated. Wasteful. Paralyzed by inertia. Politicians. Dumb. Grifters. Self interested. No new ideas. Just tax our perceived monopoly and don’t worry about being a responsible steward bc we can always tax more. Goose steppers rinse repeat.

Finally we have disruptors interested in gov. So we are excited. We wish they’d take more caution and show more grace.
 
Exactly. I don’t think what Musk and DOGE are doing is necessarily conservative. It is simply making the executive department and its huge unwieldy bureaucracy more efficient, visible, and accountable. That should be non-partisan.

how can you make something more efficient, visible, and accountable if the process for reshaping it isn't efficient, visible, or accountable?
 
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That's definitely reasons why Elon should be in charge of national audits that he has no understanding of.
That’s a different matter. He’s built companies with valuations in the trillions. You don’t do that without understanding organizations. And what is gov but a collection of organizations
 
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When called upon so much failed. Biden just rubber stamped. Who. Everything. Bc he’s 50 years in. It’s time for an outside look

I've said I agree with looking for waste. What I think is absolutely dumb is having someone come in that clearly doesn't know what he's looking at at times and then having diarrhea of the month and posting whatever pops in his brain, which then people take as gospel and don't bother fact checking.

There's no way he should be doing this on his own. There are people that know about these systems and what they actually say, that aren't on the inside. Yet, we have someone that thinks he's God when it comes to this stuff, so why bring in EXPERIENCED help that know what they're actually doing, instead of some kid that got fired for leaking his former company secrets and another that goes by the name, Big Balls, who shall we not forget, had their website hacked within like a week of it going live.
 
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Other than worshipping the guy, why is this anything to cheer? What is conservative about knocking up a third or fourth woman and leaving her to be a single Mom? She in particular went from posting nudes to trying to advocate for "conservative-ish" relationship values to being the exact type of person she used to rail against.

And Elon got her hush money, asked her to keep his name off the birth certificate and to be silent about the whole thing....

I don't even know what the **** qualifies as "conservative" anymore. For some of you all it seems to be whatever the two Dear Leaders tell you it is. This isn't anything to applaud, this is the type of behavior that Elon Musk would tweet about if it was a black guy and woman in the ghetto or two hillbillies in West Virginia dragging down the steong culture. It becomes OK to have terrible judgment because he has some money?

Some of you guys really need to step back and separate your political desires from your morality. Hunter Biden got (rightfully) dragged for how he treated that stripper and here we are applauding the world's richest douche from being one degree of separation from that same behavior.

Explain to me like I am 5 why this is something to applaud.
I think it’s hilarious that he fell into her honey pot. Did the same with Nicole Shanahan although obviously didn’t knock her up. It’s not something to be proud of but is funny. I guess when you have $460B you don’t really care about some potential child support payments.
 
I've said I agree with looking for waste. What I think is absolutely dumb is having someone come in that clearly doesn't know what he's looking at at times and then having diarrhea of the month and posting whatever pops in his brain, which then people take as gospel and don't bother fact checking.

There's no way he should be doing this on his own. There are people that know about these systems and what they actually say, that aren't on the inside. Yet, we have someone that thinks he's God when it comes to this stuff, so why bring in EXPERIENCED help that know what they're actually doing, instead of some kid that got fired for leaking his former company secrets and another that goes by the name, Big Balls, who shall we not forget, had their website hacked within like a week of it going live.
He’s definitely indelicate and fumbling around but I’ll take the warts to see change. SGEs are on a short clock to boot. Bringing kpmg to bill a billion hours and wrote 2,000 page manuals etc. let’s do this and see what comes of it. I’m not risk averse so not the greatest for this discussion
 
I think it’s hilarious that he fell into her honey pot. Did the same with Nicole Shanahan although obviously didn’t knock her up. It’s not something to be proud of but is funny. I guess when you have $460B you don’t really care about some potential child support payments.
Your moral compass has been broken since you became slavishly devoted, like a lap dog, to your lord and savior DJT. LOL!
 
For some people it is. Maybe not for you but for some undefined percentage I believe that is the case.
It's ridiculous at this point to deny that there is a cult of personality with our President Trump. It couldn't be more obvious. Facebook is full of the cult members. This board has some undeniable members led by our good friend dbm. I don't even think he'd deny being a cult member, he's probably proud of it.
 
I didn't say it was old. Too old for her though.....
Eh she’s a type. No different than going after DiCaprio or Bradley cooper or so many other celebs. When you have fame and fortune the rules are different than living in nowhere Indiana or nowhere stl
 
That’s a different matter. He’s built companies with valuations in the trillions. You don’t do that without understanding organizations. And what is gov but a collection of organizations

Musk made all his money in engineering-heavy industries. Not sure how much of that applies to federal bureaucracy other than, I guess, an org is an org is an org. A service industry "genius" would make more sense. Musk has a lot of ideas about a lot of things but what he does successfully (mostly for shareholders) is build rockets, satellites, drills, etc.. I'm all ears if there are any examples of other kinds of people-facing orgs he's run successfully. Twitter/ X certainly wouldn't be an example at this point.
 
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Musk made all his money in engineering-heavy industries. Not sure how much of that applies to federal bureaucracy other than, I guess, an org is an org is an org. A service industry "genius" would make more sense. Musk has a lot of ideas about a lot of things but what he does successfully (mostly for shareholders) is build rockets, satellites, drills, etc.. I'm all ears if there are any examples of other kinds of people-facing orgs he's run successfully. Twitter/ X certainly wouldn't be an example at this point.
Fair point re service
 
It's ridiculous at this point to deny that there is a cult of personality with our President Trump. It couldn't be more obvious. Facebook is full of the cult members. This board has some undeniable members led by our good friend dbm. I don't even think he'd deny being a cult member, he's probably proud of it.
I don't really mean it to be a pejorative. Trump's appeal is Trump IMO. The entire movement basically blows in the direction of the winds of his whims.
 
I don't really mean it to be a pejorative. Trump's appeal is Trump IMO. The entire movement basically blows in the direction of the winds of his whims.
I think it's a cult because so called Republicans abandon long-term Republican positions as soon as Trump goes in another direction. Another reason is because there are people, including on this board, that won't criticize anything at all that Trump says or does, no matter how crazy, non-conservative, or downright morally offensive it is.
 
I think it's a cult because so called Republicans abandon long-term Republican positions as soon as Trump goes in another direction. Another reason is because there are people, including on this board, that won't criticize anything at all that Trump says or does, no matter how crazy, non-conservative, or downright morally offensive it is.
I think some of that is fair but I will also allow that political movements can evolve and change. There are some movements that I am willing to accept as people just changing their mind. We spent a bunch of blood and treasure the first two decades of this century attempting to impose our will on backwards civilizations only to have things collapse like we had never been there after we left. That will jade people on the application of hard power. I can understand that.

Then there is stuff I don't get. Like defending Elon and that "conservative influencer" (who has quite the um...history, if you look into her). There are a bunch of people in the conservative echo chamber who are interlopers running a grift and a bunch of people are eating it up.
 
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I think some of that is fair but I will also allow that political movements can evolve and change. There are some movements that I am willing to accept as people just changing their mind. We spent a bunch of blood and treasure the first two decades of this century attempting to impose our will on backwards civilizations only to have things collapse like we had never been there after we left. That will jade people on the application of hard power. I can understand that.

Then there is stuff I don't get. Like defending Elon and that "conservative influencer" (who has quite the um...history, if you look into her). There are a bunch of people in the conservative echo chamber who are interlopers running a grift and a bunch of people are eating it up.
One thing that is not cult-like is that the MAGAs here aren't buying Tesla cars. Or are they? ;)
 
Exactly. I don’t think what Musk and DOGE are doing is necessarily conservative. It is simply making the executive department and its huge unwieldy bureaucracy more efficient, visible, and accountable. That should be non-partisan.
How is trying to cut down the size of the federal government and rein in spending not conservative? Conservatism entails fiscal responsibility and balance budgets.
 
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How is trying to cut down the size of the federal government and rein in spending not conservative? You aren’t a conservatism if you aren’t for fiscal responsibility and balance budgets.
I'm all for that. It's not conservative to think the way Trump/Musk are going at it is the way to do it.
 
Musk made all his money in engineering-heavy industries. Not sure how much of that applies to federal bureaucracy other than, I guess, an org is an org is an org.
You need to become familiar with what Musk and his band of computer genius whiz kids are doing.

The old fashioned (and useless) way would be to start with the bureaucracy and look at orgs.

Musk isn’t doing that. His whiz kids go to the systems and using AI and algorithms sweeping through massive data sets like a hot knife through butter and finding patterns, looking for mismatches with appropriations and recipients. Nobody has done this ever and is why he is moving fast.
 
How is trying to cut down the size of the federal government and rein in spending not conservative? You aren’t a conservatism if you aren’t for fiscal responsibility and balance budgets.
Also, there is a side effect to this. I've been plugged in to the DoD and DoS (to a lesser extent) since I retired from the Navy in 2012. I'm hearing from tons of friends that work in those agencies and they're frickin' pissed. Most of them were Trump supporters and they're doing things that have been long considered extremely important to the US. These aren't the people a conservative President would want to piss off.
 
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