Republicans have developed a very strong immunity to the truth.
trump is cleaning out of all the traitors
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That’s alternate reality. Coming from the right.
And then you pivoted, and whatabouted.
The timeline you quote isn’t accurate. Nor is what actually happened. Remember, Pub senator Ron Johnson fully endorsed what Biden did. Even signed his name to a letter endorsing it.
The facts are easily obtainable. Please stop relying on distortion to press your theory of what happened.
Should Hunter Biden have taken the position? It wasn’t the smartest move. It is how business is done, unfortunately. If you have a problem with this, then you should have a problem with a LOT of other board appointments. It’s not how good you are- it’s who you know. For the record, I don’t like what HUNTER did, but we’re not talking about Hunter. You’re trying to support Trump’s conspiracy theory madness to smear Joe.
There’s zero evidence- despite the right and Rudy G promising it- to show that it influenced JOE Biden’s actions in any way. You do realize that you’re furthering a Rudy G conspiracy theory right now, right?
Give me something other than right wing spin that shows actual evidence that Hunter being on the board influenced anything. I’ll await your response.
let me interject some facts...
https://www.factcheck.org/2020/02/fact-checking-trumps-defense-for-removing-vindman/
condensed version, regarding the "Vindman didn't follow chain of command" complaint:
In July, Vindman's supervisor was Fiona Hill. Her specific instructions for her direct reports was to have them take any legal concerns directly to NSC lead counsel John Eisenberg. Vindman did so after he was troubled by the Sondland July 10 conversations. NSC lead counsel John Eisenberg asked Vindman to keep him updated, as soon as possible, with regard to any further issues or insights regarding the Trump-Sondland shakedown "drug deal".
A week before the Trump-Zelensky call, Finoa Hill was replaced by Timothy Morrison, who became Vindman's supervisor.
Vindman was troubled by the Trump-Zelensky call.
“I went immediately .. per the instructions from the July 10 incident … to Mr. Eisenberg,” Vindman said. “I attempted to try to talk to Mr. Morrison. That didn’t happen before I received instructions from John Eisenberg to not talk to anybody else any further.”
https://www.factcheck.org/2020/02/fact-checking-trumps-defense-for-removing-vindman/
condensed version, regarding the "Vindman didn't follow chain of command" complaint:
In July, Vindman's supervisor was Fiona Hill. Her specific instructions for her direct reports was to have them take any legal concerns directly to NSC lead counsel John Eisenberg. Vindman did so after he was troubled by the Sondland July 10 conversations. NSC lead counsel John Eisenberg asked Vindman to keep him updated, as soon as possible, with regard to any further issues or insights regarding the Trump-Sondland shakedown "drug deal".
A week before the Trump-Zelensky call, Finoa Hill was replaced by Timothy Morrison, who became Vindman's supervisor.
Vindman was troubled by the Trump-Zelensky call.
“I went immediately .. per the instructions from the July 10 incident … to Mr. Eisenberg,” Vindman said. “I attempted to try to talk to Mr. Morrison. That didn’t happen before I received instructions from John Eisenberg to not talk to anybody else any further.”
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It’s hard to have honest discourse when one side is immune to reality. It’s like they inhabit an alternate universe, devoid of facts and truth. One person alleges something, and then twists the truth to support the assertion. Then, it gets amplified through sites like the Drudge Report. And after a few cycles, it not only becomes their new truth- it becomes dogma.
I’ll give the pubs credit- they’ve perfected Soviet style propoganda techniques. It works on several of the board members. Its distort the truth, and replace it with your own. Then repeat. And repeat. Until it becomes accepted fact.
It actually requires above-average intelligence because they're required to fully know our universe to ensure they don't screw up and invent facts that are actually factual.
What wasn't in the story was that Pinocchio's brain is tucked up under his nostrils.
And, the truth comes out. Trump ALWAYS tattles on himself.
Its now out in the open from Trump himself that he sent Rudy G to the Ukraine to search for dirt on Joe Biden. He denied this during the investigation. Because, he can’t tell the truth to save his life.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/13/politics/trump-rudy-giuliani-ukraine-interview/index.html
This means that the whole Ukraine “investigation” into the Bidens was in no way predicated on any actual evidence of wrongdoing- he did it strictly for political gain. Which is what the house managers proved, despite historic obstruction.
THIS is what happens when you enable Trump. He simply behaves even more poorly.
I’m not sure how anyone could credibly still believe that Trump did this for any other reason OTHER than personal political gain. He literally went outside of official government channels by sending his personal attorney to drum up dirt on Joe Biden (via his son). He got away with accepting Russian help, so he decided he’d go one step further.
Some of you realize that the conspiracy theories that Trump believed to do this are batchit insane, right?
The President claims he does not have "confidence" in Atkinson. Makes perfect sense. I agree that he shouldn't have confidence that Atkinson would cover up for him.
Alexander Vindman, witness 'bullied by Trump', quits US military
A senior official fired from the White House after testifying against Donald Trump during impeachment hearings has quit the military.
Lt Col Alexander Vindman was the victim of a "campaign of bullying, intimidation and retaliation" by the president, his lawyer said.
What has Lt Col Vindman's lawyer said?
A statement said he had retired after 21 years of military service because his future would be "forever limited".
His representative, David Pressman, said Lt Col Vindman had spoken publicly only once on the matter - under subpoena from Congress.
He said: "LTC Vindman did what the law compelled him to do; and for that he was bullied by the president and his proxies."
Mr Pressman added that he had "put the interests of his country ahead of his own. "LTC Vindman's patriotism has cost him his career," he said.
A senior official fired from the White House after testifying against Donald Trump during impeachment hearings has quit the military.
Lt Col Alexander Vindman was the victim of a "campaign of bullying, intimidation and retaliation" by the president, his lawyer said.
What has Lt Col Vindman's lawyer said?
A statement said he had retired after 21 years of military service because his future would be "forever limited".
His representative, David Pressman, said Lt Col Vindman had spoken publicly only once on the matter - under subpoena from Congress.
He said: "LTC Vindman did what the law compelled him to do; and for that he was bullied by the president and his proxies."
Mr Pressman added that he had "put the interests of his country ahead of his own. "LTC Vindman's patriotism has cost him his career," he said.
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