You post dozens of times every day. I’m not sorting through thousands of your posts to find what we all remember.
Top 5 Candidates to replace CAM.
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Gotcha.
My point is who has fired a coach at a blueblood after only 2-3 years and hired a big time coach? Very few situations like that exist. Most coaches are going to get enough time to prove/disprove themselves.
Why is it so hard for you to admit you were so incredibly wrong?Translation: I can't provide what I claim.
Indiana isn’t s blueblood...when was the last time IU was relevant? I’m 33, from Ohio, and don’t remember IU ever being a dominate team
We have the blueblood heritage. But we're in danger of losing it forever if we don't get it back soon.
To do that, you have to build the program. And cutting a guy loose after 2 years isn't the way to achieve that.
But continuing the status quo is?
Am I enjoying these losses? Hell no!
But I (unlike you) understand there isn’t a lot of easy answers, either. There are so many factors going into this season gone wrong.
I see a disconnected team. Is that on Archie? If something is clarified that HE caused the obvious bad chemistry, I’ll rip him. Until then, I’ll believe it comes from elsewhere.
Only one of those was after I was born and I wasn’t even two years old. I’ll stand by my comment. A blueblood doesn’t win championships and then fall. Is Villanova now a blueblood?
Just to dig deeper this is the first article I came upon to backup what I thought a blueblood program is and they specifically mention IU as “tier 2” https://www.nunesmagician.com/2018/...cuse-orange-tradition-success-ncaa-tournament
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I didn't say anything about whether IU is a blueblood or not. You asked when Indiana was dominant and I showed you. The fact that most of it happened before you were born is both sad and, ultimately, beside the point.
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Why are Wright, Bennett and Donovan on your list here? None of them were any good their 2nd year either. People and their lists
IU has the benefit of loading up top tier classes and at a quicker pace. Get the right guy in here and it doesn't or shouldn't take more than 2 or 3 years tops. What's so hard to figure out?
Who are the really great coaches out there anymore, let alone ones that would come here. I don't think there are nearly as many as there used to be . The obvious ones of course . Look how long it took Alabama football after Bear, and they did have a brief run with Stallings before Saban. We had for 22 of his 29 years , just basketball throw the side things out , Likely the best coach ever. It isn't going to happen again. Knight had a great base to recruit players for his coaching . He adapted more than people think. In 76 he had the best team and made it great, in 81 he had the best player and finally let Zeke play and won . In 87 he built a team around a kid that could shoot. Its not too far out that he could have won 3-4 more , 73, 75, 83, 93 besides a horrid call and injuries . Hard telling 82 with Landon's injury. We aren't finding a coach like that again it was lightning in a bottle. I do wonder what is behind the scenes and how much Archie is able to get on them. It is a different time . Look at the NBA talent on the other '' blue bloods'' , look at Indiana , Isiah, Henderson is probably next but besides Zeke really hard to say Woodson did OK. Not going to win that way anymore. I really almost after watching this yr like Painter coaching to win the conference . I hate Purdue but who is doing more with less?
I would put Frank Martin in top 5 just to see this lol
Personally, I think it probably already is lost....in the sense that I’ve lost hope that we’ll ever again be what we were. Not in my lifetime, anyway.
I still support the program 100% —in good times and bad. So it’s not as if I’m a fair-weather fan. Just realistic and weary of feeling let down by unfulfilled expectations. Stock market watchers call it capitulation.
I do agree that we shouldn’t fire a coach after just 2 seasons. But let’s also not forget that the last one got 9 seasons — despite results that were uneven and underachieving even during the couple of highest water seasons.
So, yeah, there are dangers in cutting bait too soon. There are also dangers in waiting too long — because that sends a message that underperformance is acceptable.
Personally, I think that Archie should be informed that the results to date are nothing short of unacceptable and that he has one more season to correct that. If he has another lackluster year and gets more time, I think we’ll be in the territory of essentially saying that subpar results are, while not desired, also not cause for termination.
Self is one of the biggest cheaters in college ball. IU doesn't need that.
Alabama had 6 coaches between Bryant and Saban. Stallings had the longest tenure of any of them (7 years). And he was pretty successful — a number of SEC championships. But he also had a vacated season.
Of the other ones, 3 coaches got 4 seasons. Two got 3 seasons. And Franchione left after 2 seasons.
I'm not sure anyone replied to you, but that is an interesting idea. He is from a basketball family. He also would probably fit in with the IU fan base.
You mean you’ll keep your head in the sand until someone forcibly pulls it out? Got it
I wanted Tony Bennett when he coached at Washington State, but firmly believe that just ain't gonna happen.
I was happy with the Archie hire, and will give him the chance to establish his culture here.
I was happy with the Archie hire, and will give him the chance to establish his culture here.
Please tell me you're not arguing that Archie is as good a coach as Bennett at this point. There is literally nothing to back that claim up and a lot more evidence to the contrary.
Archie will certainly get for years to prove his worth, but you can't argue at this point that it's been anything but a disappointment.
At this point I almost feel like let's just go with Alford and be done with it. Archie was supposed to be the best up and coming coach but so far that's proven to be laughable. It's like that Seinfeld where George does the opposite of what he thinks and everything starts working out."If every instinct you have is wrong, then the opposite, would have to be right." Alford 2020
No, nobody replied to him. He's a UK troll clowning IU idiots by pretending to show compassion for the current situation in Bloomington.
Get your head out of your ass.
Sampson is coaching in the aac against a bunch of nobody’s and a uc team that was ranked for 2 mins till they got beat by Houston. Wait till they play somebody of substance till you say he’s a good coach again.
At this point?
At this point (2nd year in current jobs)....
Bennett (Record / Kpom rating)
Y1: 15-16 (76th)
Y2: 16-15 (103rd)
Archie
Y1: 16-15 (71st)
Y2: 13-11 (45th)
So Archie is tracking better?
A new name! What about me fab 5 Steve Fisher? He would be a good get, or how about Kermit Davis? Dude can coach
You’re just finding an example that fits your narrative. How about coaches that did well their first 2 years.....
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