To all those bashing Scott or melting down in general

[Courtsensetwo]

What you have overlooked or forgotten is that "fred's right hand man"... before the ink was dry on his contract... went out and found the money and had the stones to fire AM in the middle of the pandemic year when nobody...and I mean nobody thought it would happen until at least after this year.

He then backed the Brinks truck up to Brad Stevens' doorstep but he wanted to stay in the NBA.

He then found the connection we have all wanted to make to our past success and wrapped him in an innovative package of former winning head coach and successful assistant coach also connected to our success.

A year ago; everyone that matters believed we would right now be awash in another AM team with no TJD, no shooters and no quality incoming recruits. Instead we have TJD, shooters and great recruits coming in.

Last night sucked and guess what...there will be another just like it along the way, but we are in far better condition than any of us had hoped to be a year ago.

Breathe

 

[ORG]

What you have overlooked or forgotten is that "fred's right hand man"... before the ink was dry on his contract... went out and found the money and had the stones to fire AM in the middle of the pandemic year when nobody...and I mean nobody thought it would happen until at least after this year.

He then backed the Brinks truck up to Brad Stevens' doorstep but he wanted to stay in the NBA.

He then found the connection we have all wanted to make to our past success and wrapped him in an innovative package of former winning head coach and successful assistant coach also connected to our success.

A year ago; everyone that matters believed we would right now be awash in another AM team with no TJD, no shooters and no quality incoming recruits. Instead we have TJD, shooters and great recruits coming in.

Last night sucked and guess what...there will be another just like it along the way, but we are in far better condition than any of us had hoped to be a year ago.

Breathe

But, but, but how can we breath? The sports writers have labeled this loss as being CATASTROPHIC . . . It was a catastrophe . . . How can IU EVER recover? This is too monumental of a loss to over come. The USS Hoosier has the iceberg . . . Abandon ship . . . We are doomed if we stay on it.

LOL . . . it was a horrible loss but we all knew winning at Wisky would be very difficult.

 

[Tasmanian Devil]

What you have overlooked or forgotten is that "fred's right hand man"... before the ink was dry on his contract... went out and found the money and had the stones to fire AM in the middle of the pandemic year when nobody...and I mean nobody thought it would happen until at least after this year.

He then backed the Brinks truck up to Brad Stevens' doorstep but he wanted to stay in the NBA.

He then found the connection we have all wanted to make to our past success and wrapped him in an innovative package of former winning head coach and successful assistant coach also connected to our success.

A year ago; everyone that matters believed we would right now be awash in another AM team with no TJD, no shooters and no quality incoming recruits. Instead we have TJD, shooters and great recruits coming in.

Last night sucked and guess what...there will be another just like it along the way, but we are in far better condition than any of us had hoped to be a year ago.

Breathe

Spot on.

Was last night disappointing? Without question.

But as pissed as I am this morning, this isn't as bad as Indiana St 90-69 or IPFW 92-72 - both at home.

These guys - ESPECIALLY Johnson - need to put an entire game together. Have to have more poise down the stretch, hit FT's, be smart with the ball - all things missing last night in the last 5 minutes.

This team is not far away from being undefeated. But they still have a ways to go.

 

[Courtsensetwo]

Spot on.

Was last night disappointing? Without question.

But as pissed as I am this morning, this isn't as bad as Indiana St 90-69 or IPFW 92-72 - both at home.

These guys - ESPECIALLY Johnson - need to put an entire game together. Have to have more poise down the stretch, hit FT's, be smart with the ball - all things missing last night in the last 5 minutes.

This team is not far away from being undefeated. But they still have a ways to go.

And it isn't nearly as bad as all of us screaming for AM's head while watching his team play this year with no TJD, no shooters and no recruits. That was the reality before Scott was hired.

 

[Beorik]

What you have overlooked or forgotten is that "fred's right hand man"... before the ink was dry on his contract... went out and found the money and had the stones to fire AM in the middle of the pandemic year when nobody...and I mean nobody thought it would happen until at least after this year.

He then backed the Brinks truck up to Brad Stevens' doorstep but he wanted to stay in the NBA.

He then found the connection we have all wanted to make to our past success and wrapped him in an innovative package of former winning head coach and successful assistant coach also connected to our success.

A year ago; everyone that matters believed we would right now be awash in another AM team with no TJD, no shooters and no quality incoming recruits. Instead we have TJD, shooters and great recruits coming in.

Last night sucked and guess what...there will be another just like it along the way, but we are in far better condition than any of us had hoped to be a year ago.

Breathe

Completely agree with this. I was fortunate enough to live through the Coach Knight years, and old enough to remember more than half of them well. Guess what? We lost games we should have won then too. Almost every team does. We have two losses where we played far from perfect. Could this season turn out bad? Sure. It is largly untold right now. Lets all sit back and see if this team can grow, improve, and get in the dance.

 

[UTFO]

Completely agree with this. I was fortunate enough to live through the Coach Knight years, and old enough to remember more than half of them well. Guess what? We lost games we should have won then too. Almost every team does. We have two losses where we played far from perfect. Could this season turn out bad? Sure. It is largly untold right now. Lets all sit back and see if this team can grow, improve, and get in the dance.

People are just rightfully pissed we blew a 22 pt lead. We scored 3 points in the last 11 minutes.

What kind of pitiful fan base would er be if we weren't?

 

[Beorik]

People are just rightfully pissed we blew a 22 pt lead. We scored 3 points in the last 11 minutes.

What kind of pitiful fan base would er be if we weren't?

If you think this board is only like this aftet blowing a 22 point lead then you don’t read this board much. We (this board) is like this after 10 point wins.

And being angry about a loss and calling for AD to Coach being fired are two different things. I am angry and still have control of my emotions. Many posters on this board wouldn’t get through a season with Coach K at his peak because he would lose a couple games.

 

[UncleMark]

People are just rightfully pissed we blew a 22 pt lead. We scored 3 points in the last 11 minutes.

What kind of pitiful fan base would er be if we weren't?

I wouldn't be nearly as bummed if it had been close throughout and we just came up short at the end.

 

[Wiedersehen]

What you have overlooked or forgotten is that "fred's right hand man"... before the ink was dry on his contract... went out and found the money and had the stones to fire AM in the middle of the pandemic year when nobody...and I mean nobody thought it would happen until at least after this year.

He then backed the Brinks truck up to Brad Stevens' doorstep but he wanted to stay in the NBA.

He then found the connection we have all wanted to make to our past success and wrapped him in an innovative package of former winning head coach and successful assistant coach also connected to our success.

A year ago; everyone that matters believed we would right now be awash in another AM team with no TJD, no shooters and no quality incoming recruits. Instead we have TJD, shooters and great recruits coming in.

Last night sucked and guess what...there will be another just like it along the way, but we are in far better condition than any of us had hoped to be a year ago.

Breathe

Who makes the schedule? That’s who we should be blaming. We are more talented and better coached than Wisconsin but we were not prepared for the physicality.

Last night was all about IU playing Shit State for a month while Wisconsin was out there playing Providence, Texas A&M, Georgia Tech, Houston, Marquette. They’ve been playing against “power conference” programs all year and it showed last night.

 

[UTFO]

If you think this board is only like this aftet blowing a 22 point lead then you don’t read this board much. We (this board) is like this after 10 point wins.

And being angry about a loss and calling for AD to Coach being fired are two different things. I am angry and still have control of my emotions. Many posters on this board wouldn’t get through a season with Coach K at his peak because he would lose a couple games.

I've been on this board since Peegs had his site on Starnews. 1999?

Fans are fans. Some are young, remember.

 

[Aloha Hoosier]

People are just rightfully pissed we blew a 22 pt lead. We scored 3 points in the last 11 minutes.

What kind of pitiful fan base would er be if we weren't?

Being pissed is no problem. I was pissed as well but whining and crying about it and making irrational proclamations (like happens here by certain posters after every loss - or even when down in the first half) doesn't cross my mind. It certainly wouldn't make me a better fan. I think it's the opposite. It's also immature. I don't like seeing adults be so immature.

At least here people are anonymous. It happens on Facebook where their families and friends can see them look like irrational idiots. I'm embarrassed for them.

 

[UTFO]

Being pissed is no problem. I was pissed as well but whining and crying about it and making irrational proclamations (like happens here by certain posters after every loss - or even when down in the first half) doesn't cross my mind. It certainly wouldn't make me a better fan. I think it's the opposite. It's also immature. I don't like seeing adults be so immature.

At least here people are anonymous. It happens on Facebook where their families and friends can see them look like irrational idiots. I'm embarrassed for them.

When you turn on the tv and watch any sport....the place is full of adults acting immaturely. Wearing jerseys, face paint, getting drunk, screaming, yelling....hell, even taking the time off to go view a child's game is immature.

You know what happens if you get too mature, right? You die.

 

[abraxis]

What you have overlooked or forgotten is that "fred's right hand man"... before the ink was dry on his contract... went out and found the money and had the stones to fire AM in the middle of the pandemic year when nobody...and I mean nobody thought it would happen until at least after this year.

Might we find his new book out soon, just in time for after the holidays...perhaps called "Making You Own Luck - From Cleaning Up Fred's Mess To Rebuilding IU Athletics"

 

[UTFO]

Might we find his new book out soon, just in time for after the holidays...perhaps called "Making You Own Luck - From Cleaning Up Fred's Mess To Rebuilding IU Athletics"

I think back 10 years ago when we here were discussing whether or not we are a blueblood any longer.

We don't have that talk anymore.

What we are now is Pudue's dream come true.

 

[crazed_hoosier2]

Anybody who is having this kind of meltdown right now....the problem is them....not the team, the coaching staff, or the University.

 

[Aloha Hoosier]

When you turn on the tv and watch any sport....the place is full of adults acting immaturely. Wearing jerseys, face paint, getting drunk, screaming, yelling....hell, even taking the time off to go view a child's game is immature.

You know what happens if you get too mature, right? You die.

I cheer as loudly as the next guy. Standing up and saying, "you suck Phinisee" or "we suck" or much of the things posted here is when it crosses over to immature. I have a good friend who's a diehard fan of his university teams, but he's one of the pessimistic negative ones (like we have an abundance of here) and he has season tickets. His wife doesn't enjoy going to games with him so usually doesn't. His son will only go occasionally for the same reason. The people around him often make it clear that he's crossing the line with his negativity. He's not making friends during most games. I go occasionally for good games and don't mind it as much because I make fun of him for his more ridiculous outbursts and he calms down, but he's a mess. He doesn't even go to every game because he sometimes can't find anyone that will go with him. His dogs even run to another room when game is on TV. He and his wife watch the game in separate rooms. He's a great guy otherwise, but sports bring out the negative immaturity in him. I get the pessimism, if they lose he expected it and if they win he's pleasantly surprised. His team usually is very good and has won national championships, but he was the same pessimistic fan during their last championship season. To me it's nuts. However, he's not going to change. We have people like that here. It's really immature, but I know they likely can't help themselves.

 

[crazed_hoosier2]

I think back 10 years ago when we here were discussing whether or not we are a blueblood any longer.

We don't have that talk anymore.

What we are now is Pudue's dream come true.

Well, what we are now is the logical result of a series of bad hires, bad no-fires, etc. over the course of many years. We didn't get here overnight, and we aren't going to get where we want to be overnight.

Purdue is where they are because they haven't suffered this same series of bad decisions. They knew who they wanted as the heir apparent to Keady, they brought him in for a smooth transition, they've stuck with it, and they've gotten positive results.

Patience is a virtue.

 

[abraxis]

When you turn on the tv and watch any sport....the place is full of adults acting immaturely. Wearing jerseys, face paint, getting drunk, screaming, yelling....hell, even taking the time off to go view a child's game is immature.

You know what happens if you get too mature, right? You die.

You do realize some of those face-painted, drunken idiots yelling and screaming are the same one's asking to be handed ligature ties to close someone's brain come Monday morning, don't you? They're also some of the same leather jacketed bad-asses seen riding their Harley's alongside Mitch Daniels in a fundraising rally parade. Don't be fooled by outside antics or appearances.

One shouldn't equate physical maturation with mental maturation. Only the former withers like a month old plum and disappears, the latter becomes a boor at holiday cocktail parties as a pompous prick called a politician.

 

[UTFO]

Well, what we are now is the logical result of a series of bad hires, bad no-fires, etc. over the course of many years. We didn't get here overnight, and we aren't going to get where we want to be overnight.

Purdue is where they are because they haven't suffered this same series of bad decisions. They knew who they wanted as the heir apparent to Keady, they brought him in for a smooth transition, they've stuck with it, and they've gotten positive results.

Patience is a virtue.

Plus Keady wasn't Knight. Keady was fine with the passing of the baton. It was within the family. Keady cared about PU's future wo him.

We had the opposite happen and a good chunk of the fanbase hoping we'd lose once RMK was fired.

I don't know who did the cursing, but it sure feels like we're cursed!

 

[UTFO]

You do realize some of those face-painted, drunken idiots yelling and screaming are the same one's asking to be handed ligature ties to close someone's brain come Monday morning, don't you? They're also some of the same leather jacketed bad-asses seen riding their Harley's alongside Mitch Daniels in a fundraising rally parade. Don't be fooled by outside antics or appearances.

One shouldn't equate physical maturation with mental maturation. Only the former withers like a month old plum and disappears, the latter becomes a boor at holiday cocktail parties as a pompous prick called a politician.

Exactly, that's why I think immaturity is overstated.

Just as an aside, I don't think grown men playing dress up and riding their motorcycles around are bad ass. I think they're emotionally stunted and hung up on looking tough. When I pass one or a group, I always laugh and try to picture myself dressing like that and still looking my wife and kids w a straight face.

 

[abraxis]

I cheer as loudly as the next guy. Standing up and saying, "you suck Phinisee" or "we suck" or much of the things posted here is when it crosses over to immature. I have a good friend who's a diehard fan of his university teams, but he's one of the pessimistic negative ones (like we have an abundance of here) and he has season tickets. His wife doesn't enjoy going to games with him so usually doesn't. His son will only go occasionally for the same reason. The people around him often make it clear that he's crossing the line with his negativity. He's not making friends during most games. I go occasionally for good games and don't mind it as much because I make fun of him for his more ridiculous outbursts and he calms down, but he's a mess. He doesn't even go to every game because he sometimes can't find anyone that will go with him. His dogs even run to another room when game is on TV. He and his wife watch the game in separate rooms. He's a great guy otherwise, but sports bring out the negative immaturity in him. I get the pessimism, if they lose he expected it and if they win he's pleasantly surprised. His team usually is very good and has won national championships, but he was the same pessimistic fan during their last championship season. To me it's nuts. However, he's not going to change. We have people like that here. It's really immature, but I know they likely can't help themselves.

It could be something more deeply seeded like Coco-Puffs. Did he by any chance have an overbearing mother who criticized him if he didn't thoroughly sponge off his cereal bowl in the sink after breakfast? I believe Coco-Puffs to have ruined many a man, as witnessed later in life by their irritating social behavior.

 

[crazed_hoosier2]

Plus Keady wasn't Knight. Keady was fine with the passing of the baton. It was within the family. Keady cared about PU's future wo him.

We had the opposite happen and a good chunk of the fanbase hoping we'd lose once RMK was fired.

I don't know who did the cursing, but it sure feels like we're cursed!

Well, I don't know how much our actual fortunes were impacted by the butthurt RMK turncoats.

They weren't the ones who took the interim tag off Mike Davis -- a decent man who was obviously ill-prepared to lead a Big Ten basketball program.

They weren't the ones who hired a coach who was already under an ethical cloud...only to soon find that the cloud followed him here.

They weren't the ones who held on to unsuccessful coaches longer than they should have.

You're right to imply that the roots of our fall go back to the Knight firing and its various repercussions. But, again, we can't do anything about the past: either that part of it or the other ones.

All I'm saying is that people need to have some patience. It's ridiculous to be pushing the panic button like some are early into Woodson's first season.

 

[abraxis]

Plus Keady wasn't Knight. Keady was fine with the passing of the baton. It was within the family. Keady cared about PU's future wo him.

Knight would have cared, too, but he wasn't given the chance. I think it idiotic, those saying Knight would have demanded his son, Patrick, take over the helm after his retirement. Instead, our HOF disciplinarian was deemed "classic bully" and we got Mike Davis, who had never been a head coach in his life, quoting at his first press interview that he never understood the motion offense. I remember thinking to myself how odd that was...Knight drew out his teachings in diagram form on a chalk board each Sunday morning during his TV show. Was Davis not paying attention? I could conjecture that Davis was just plain stupid, but that might be misconstrued as a racist comment so I'll just keep it to myself without further comment.

 

[abraxis]

They weren't the ones who hired a coach who was already under an ethical cloud...only to soon find that the cloud followed him here.

The fact that Sampson was a "minority hire" overshadowed his past transgressions. We have Herbert to thank for that.

 

[Hatchets7times]

Woo

I wouldn't be nearly as bummed if it had been close throughout and we just came up short at the end.

With that kind a lead..
It's not like IU were up just 6 ..
You have to close it out..Even if it got close..That game should have been a 8 -10 pt win..

 

[crazed_hoosier2]

The fact that Sampson was a "minority hire" overshadowed his past transgressions. We have Herbert to thank for that.

Maybe. I wasn't in the room. But, despite what I wrote, I'm really not that interested in beating all those dead horses.

We are where we are -- and it's ridiculous for people to think that any new coach could come in after the 4 year long shitshow we've all played witness to and, right out of the gate, field a team that isn't, for instance, going to blow a big lead on the road in the B10.

That's just not how this works, sadly. The thing to watch for is improvement over time. And, IMO, we've already seen a good deal of it...for a welcomed change.

 

[jet812]

Knight would have cared, too, but he wasn't given the chance. I think it idiotic, those saying Knight would have demanded his son, Patrick, take over the helm after his retirement. Instead, our HOF disciplinarian was deemed "classic bully" and we got Mike Davis, who had never been a head coach in his life, quoting at his first press interview that he never understood the motion offense. I remember thinking to myself how odd that was...Knight drew out his teachings in diagram form on a chalk board each Sunday morning during his TV show. Was Davis not paying attention? I could conjecture that Davis was just plain stupid, but that might be misconstrued as a racist comment so I'll just keep it to myself without further comment.

Knight showed at TT exactly how he intended for it to go down. We don’t have to speculate…

 

[abraxis]

All I'm saying is that people need to have some patience. It's ridiculous to be pushing the panic button like some are early into Woodson's first season.

The trouble with patience here is that Woodson's "spring chicken" days are now "autumn chickens". By the time he finally gets it, if he ever does, we'll be needing to continue our seemingly endless cycle of coaching changes, based upon his age alone. In depressing comparison, Matt Painter became Purdue's head coach at age 35 which makes him only 51 now. He might be another Jim Boeheim in the making. Mike Woodson became a first time head college coach at age 63.

 

[BusdriverE]

Less we not forget that 3 of the starters are transfers and when you get transfers, they are not the other teams best players. They are usually role or marginal players at best with limitations (turnovers, slow, can't defend) and these flaws come out in stressful situations. Turnovers, can't generate buckets when we need them. Bardo made a great comment last night that when Stewart catches and shoots, he usually makes them. When he has to put the ball on the floor and then shoots, he's off. I think the first post in this thread is spot on and a GREAT reminder of where we came from last year

 

[crazed_hoosier2]

Knight showed at TT exactly how he intended for it to go down. We don’t have to speculate…

That's true. But, to their credit, they only gave Pat 3 seasons before pulling the plug. So did Lamar, for that matter.

 

[crazed_hoosier2]

The trouble with patience here is that Woodson's "spring chicken" days are now "autumn chickens". By the time he finally gets it, if he ever does, we'll be needing to continue our seemingly endless cycle of coaching changes, based upon his age alone. In depressing comparison, Matt Painter became Purdue's head coach at age 35 which makes him only 51 now. He might be another Jim Boeheim in the making. Mike Woodson became a first time head college coach at age 63.

I don't think anybody was under any illusions when Woody was hired that he'd be our head coach for a terribly long time. But that's OK, he doesn't need to be in order to be successful.

 

[abraxis]

Maybe. I wasn't in the room. But, despite what I wrote, I'm really not that interested in beating all those dead horses.

It's upon those dead horses we've ridden down this rabbit hole we can't seem to escape. We need to keep beating them until they're even deader, perhaps. Other schools have been slapped with worst transgressions and recovered, why can't IU?

 

[abraxis]

Knight showed at TT exactly how he intended for it to go down. We don’t have to speculate…

I think Pat's hiring at TT was merely a personal "thank you" by the university president to Bob for his willingness to come to God's-forsaken tumbleweed connection in Lubbock, TX. It wouldn't have played out that way in Bloomington, IN.

 

[shooter1977]

It's upon those dead horses we've ridden down this rabbit hole we can't seem to escape. We need to keep beating them until they're even deader, perhaps. Other schools have been slapped with worst transgressions and recovered, why can't IU?

Leadership. When programs do well, there is generally a good university president, a strong AD, and a good head coach. How many of those boxes has IU checked over the past two decades?

Have heard great things about Whitten.

 

[Coopster]

What you have overlooked or forgotten is that "fred's right hand man"... before the ink was dry on his contract... went out and found the money and had the stones to fire AM in the middle of the pandemic year when nobody...and I mean nobody thought it would happen until at least after this year.

He then backed the Brinks truck up to Brad Stevens' doorstep but he wanted to stay in the NBA.

He then found the connection we have all wanted to make to our past success and wrapped him in an innovative package of former winning head coach and successful assistant coach also connected to our success.

A year ago; everyone that matters believed we would right now be awash in another AM team with no TJD, no shooters and no quality incoming recruits. Instead we have TJD, shooters and great recruits coming in.

Last night sucked and guess what...there will be another just like it along the way, but we are in far better condition than any of us had hoped to be a year ago.

Breathe

 

[Coopster]

100% agree! Learn from it, move on!

 

[benhyoung14]

What you have overlooked or forgotten is that "fred's right hand man"... before the ink was dry on his contract... went out and found the money and had the stones to fire AM in the middle of the pandemic year when nobody...and I mean nobody thought it would happen until at least after this year.

He then backed the Brinks truck up to Brad Stevens' doorstep but he wanted to stay in the NBA.

He then found the connection we have all wanted to make to our past success and wrapped him in an innovative package of former winning head coach and successful assistant coach also connected to our success.

A year ago; everyone that matters believed we would right now be awash in another AM team with no TJD, no shooters and no quality incoming recruits. Instead we have TJD, shooters and great recruits coming in.

Last night sucked and guess what...there will be another just like it along the way, but we are in far better condition than any of us had hoped to be a year ago.

Breathe

Really? I wasn't able to watch the game, but it seamed like from everything I've read it was a tale of two halves. This was a game that nobody expected us to compete in prior to this season. I think Dolson's options were to pay Stevens a truck load of money and let him run the program, or build a program. Little did we know that Stevens was planning on getting out of the coaching and recruiting game altogether. So, what does Dolson do? He goes out and puts together a team of Woodson, Matta, Fife, and the Woodson whisper in Coach Knight. We'd be naive to think he's not giving Woodson advice. Hell, this is the first time I've seen a good man to man help defense outside of Coach K in a long time. Honestly, if we play that well in the Kohl Center, at least for one half, we can win a lot of B1G games this year, especially as week as the B1G is. The problem with AM teams was is they started out well, but stopped improving about mid-season. If this team keeps improving IU will be dangerous come B1G tournament time. This was supposed to be a team that would finish about .500 and maybe push for a NCAA Tournament bid. Now, I'd be disappointed if it didn't happen. We need to win out the rest of the month, not lose any games that would be characterized as 'bad losses' and I think we're in. I think St. Johns will improve and that win will look good. All is not lost, lol.

 

[Tasmanian Devil]

Well, what we are now is the logical result of a series of bad hires, bad no-fires, etc. over the course of many years. We didn't get here overnight, and we aren't going to get where we want to be overnight.

Purdue is where they are because they haven't suffered this same series of bad decisions. They knew who they wanted as the heir apparent to Keady, they brought him in for a smooth transition, they've stuck with it, and they've gotten positive results.

Patience is a virtue.

Hate to say it, but this is gospel.

Are we better with Woody at the helm? Yes. But we're nowhere near where we want to be - primarily because of talent and playmakers.

Changing the culture takes time. I've got faith in Woodson/Dolson, but they're not miracle workers.

 

[Hatchets7times]

Maybe. I wasn't in the room. But, despite what I wrote, I'm really not that interested in beating all those dead horses.

We are where we are -- and it's ridiculous for people to think that any new coach could come in after the 4 year long shitshow we've all played witness to and, right out of the gate, field a team that isn't, for instance, going to blow a big lead on the road in the B10.

That's just not how this works, sadly. The thing to watch for is improvement over time. And, IMO, we've already seen a good deal of it...for a welcomed change.

Plenty of programs were turned over in one year...
Woodson's game management was terrible..
No timeouts to stop momentum..Early !
On the road you can't wait for a t.v. timeout's..
Then yes run everything threw TJD..
But you got to tell him ..Hey Trace when you're crab dribbling..You have to be a willing passer
Then the rest of team has to dive in the lane for a pass..Not stand and watch him...Crazy to think how much better Williams at Purdue is at that then TJD..Actually Painters whole offense is still miles ahead of Indiana's..

 

[Hatchets7times]

Hate to say it, but this is gospel.

Are we better with Woody at the helm? Yes. But we're nowhere near where we want to be - primarily because of talent and playmakers.

Changing the culture takes time. I've got faith in Woodson/Dolson, but they're not miracle workers.

Woodson should be no more than a band aid .
Three yrs max...He's already pushing 64....
And I'm almost as old and feel that way..