This feels wrong to me (President Carter)

[mcmurtry66]

Who is "you guys"? I'm saying both tickets represent horrible choices and I won't be voting for either candidate for President.

If you want to vote for the least horrible, knock yourself out. That's your right. You're still voting for something horrible. I can't believe I had to spell that out. You seem to be clinging just as much as anyone.

The choices are dogshit. Of the two I know who I will vote for and that’s DONALD JOHN TRUMP!!!!!

 

[ulrey]

Says the schizophrenic!

The guy dreams about Trump every fn day.

 

[hoosboot]

Bullshit!

Cool story, Len.

He's a terribly corrupt, awful grifter who is frustrated that government doesn't work like the autocracy he is used to, so he's abysmal at managing it. I know that RT won't tell you the truth because they understand that you are predisposed to lapping up the pathetic propaganda you are predisposed to scarfing down, so I guess I'll have to be the one to do it, company man.

Cue exclamation-point laden rant about the Leviathan and their corporate media handlers.

 

[mcmurtry66]

Cool story, Len.

He's a terribly corrupt, awful grifter who is frustrated that government doesn't work like the autocracy he is used to, so he's abysmal at managing it. I know that RT won't tell you the truth because they understand that you are predisposed to lapping up the pathetic propaganda you are predisposed to scarfing down, so I guess I'll have to be the one to do it, company man.

Cue exclamation-point laden rant about the Leviathan and their corporate media handlers.

Fair points on what he is used to and how gov operates. Kind of a slight against biz execs in gov. Interesting

 

[Stuffshot]

It’s like a Ted Valentine.

Or a Tim Donaghy.

 

[Stuffshot]

Anyone who's ever served in a leadership capacity, has read anything about leadership, or otherwise knows anything about leadership understands that character matters. If a leader lacks character and is allowed to remain in the leadership role, the organization - - - regardless of the nature of the organization - - - is doomed to failure.

Trump has no character. His own sister said "he has no principles. None." And consider his history. Everything he touches eventually turns to shit.

He's unfit for office. He shouldn't be anywhere near the Oval Office. Leading Republicans understand that. They said so in the days following J6. All of them (McCarthy, McConnell, Graham, etc.) condemned Trump in the strongest possible terms. But what happened next? They went back to their districts and discovered that their low information constituents believed Trump's Big Lie, all of his "I'm a victim!" bullshit, and that their constituents still loved Trump. So in order to save their own political hides, they lost their balls and spines, re-embraced Trump, and bowed to his altar.

Trump needs to be sent packing. Trumpism won't disappear with Trump's defeat, but his loss will send a clear message that the White House is no place for reckless, unhinged, irresponsible chaos agents, convicts and con men.

If Trump wins, is there a snowball's chance Ivanka and Jared will help him again?

 

[Stuffshot]

lying about the biggest issues facing america is as bad as anything. lying about hte condition of the president thereby perpetuating a fraud on the entire country. you think biden is capable of overseeing what's going on with fema and nc. they did that to us. through lies. another hour he'll be spent. if he's not already loopy today. i could go on. the dem party is no better. partisanship is the difference

Paranoia strikes deep.
Into your life it will creep.

 

[mcmurtry66]

Paranoia strikes deep.
Into your life it will creep.

I don’t get lost in the noise. I follow policies. What policies of the progressives do you like? Soros prosecutors? Open borders?

 

[Mas-sa-suta]

Cool story, Len.

He's a terribly corrupt, awful grifter who is frustrated that government doesn't work like the autocracy he is used to, so he's abysmal at managing it. I know that RT won't tell you the truth because they understand that you are predisposed to lapping up the pathetic propaganda you are predisposed to scarfing down, so I guess I'll have to be the one to do it, company man.

Cue exclamation-point laden rant about the Leviathan and their corporate media handlers.

When President Trump was a moderate Democrat in NYC, he was a hero in the Black community(and I use the descriptor community in a very broad sense). Multiple honors and awards for his philanthropy and support for the minorities and NYC in general. He neither uses alcohol nor tobacco, and neither do his children.
He upset the apple cart of national politics: Had he not won in '16, the depth of criminal corruption among those in power would not have been exposed.
He didn't understand fully the rot existing in both parties, and trusted in the integrity of people not deserving that trust.
He understands fully now.
Retribution will be swift and merciless this time.
It will be fun to watch.
Your infatuation with PDJT my well be indicative of latent homosexual tendencies. You can't begin to reach the fame and success he has achieved, nor could you ever get a moment's attention from him, so your frustration is expressed in envy, hate and vitriolic nonsense.
Textbook.
Seek help before you destroy yourself.

 

[DrHoops]

Lying about a national ban on abortion. Lying about the border and criminals. Harris is no different

We’ve got a rotten batch. Maybe next round will be better

Which policies of Trump are important to you?

 

[DrHoops]

When President Trump was a moderate Democrat in NYC, he was a hero in the Black community(and I use the descriptor community in a very broad sense). Multiple honors and awards for his philanthropy and support for the minorities and NYC in general. He neither uses alcohol nor tobacco, and neither do his children.
He upset the apple cart of national politics: Had he not won in '16, the depth of criminal corruption among those in power would not have been exposed.
He didn't understand fully the rot existing in both parties, and trusted in the integrity of people not deserving that trust.
He understands fully now.
Retribution will be swift and merciless this time.
It will be fun to watch.
Your infatuation with PDJT my well be indicative of latent homosexual tendencies. You can't begin to reach the fame and success he has achieved, nor could you ever get a moment's attention from him, so your frustration is expressed in envy, hate and vitriolic nonsense.
Textbook.
Seek help before you destroy yourself.

LOL!

 

[DrHoops]

When President Trump was a moderate Democrat in NYC, he was a hero in the Black community(and I use the descriptor community in a very broad sense). Multiple honors and awards for his philanthropy and support for the minorities and NYC in general. He neither uses alcohol nor tobacco, and neither do his children.
He upset the apple cart of national politics: Had he not won in '16, the depth of criminal corruption among those in power would not have been exposed.
He didn't understand fully the rot existing in both parties, and trusted in the integrity of people not deserving that trust.
He understands fully now.
Retribution will be swift and merciless this time.
It will be fun to watch.
Your infatuation with PDJT my well be indicative of latent homosexual tendencies. You can't begin to reach the fame and success he has achieved, nor could you ever get a moment's attention from him, so your frustration is expressed in envy, hate and vitriolic nonsense.
Textbook.
Seek help before you destroy yourself.

Cuckoo!!!!!

 

[cosmickid]

It’s idol worship. Insecure people need a sense of comfort from their President. Like a warm blanket of sorts.

I share your vision that I can draw comfort and morality from people actually close to me. A president is someone I’m hiring to do a job. The contractor who cheats on his wife but still does a bang up job is preferable to the contractor who moonlights as a pastor but takes weeks to get anything done, charges out the ass and does a shit job.

But alas, many people need a politician whispering sweet nothings in their ear. A major problem with our politics.

" The contractor who cheats on his wife but still does a bang up job is preferable to the contractor who moonlights as a pastor but takes weeks to get anything done, charges out the ass and does a shit job."

So since both contractor A (sans the "bang up" job performance) and contractor B are equally attributable to Trump, which one do you choose?

 

[Aloha Hoosier]

When President Trump was a moderate Democrat in NYC, he was a hero in the Black community(and I use the descriptor community in a very broad sense). Multiple honors and awards for his philanthropy and support for the minorities and NYC in general. He neither uses alcohol nor tobacco, and neither do his children.
He upset the apple cart of national politics: Had he not won in '16, the depth of criminal corruption among those in power would not have been exposed.
He didn't understand fully the rot existing in both parties, and trusted in the integrity of people not deserving that trust.
He understands fully now.
Retribution will be swift and merciless this time.
It will be fun to watch.
Your infatuation with PDJT my well be indicative of latent homosexual tendencies. You can't begin to reach the fame and success he has achieved, nor could you ever get a moment's attention from him, so your frustration is expressed in envy, hate and vitriolic nonsense.
Textbook.
Seek help before you destroy yourself.

Holy shit! You are worshiping a man. You do know this, right? If I believed in the end times stuff, PDJT is a perfect candidate for the Antichrist. Does that never cross your mind?

 

[hoosboot]

When President Trump was a moderate Democrat in NYC, he was a hero in the Black community(and I use the descriptor community in a very broad sense). Multiple honors and awards for his philanthropy and support for the minorities and NYC in general. He neither uses alcohol nor tobacco, and neither do his children.
He upset the apple cart of national politics: Had he not won in '16, the depth of criminal corruption among those in power would not have been exposed.
He didn't understand fully the rot existing in both parties, and trusted in the integrity of people not deserving that trust.
He understands fully now.
Retribution will be swift and merciless this time.
It will be fun to watch.
Your infatuation with PDJT my well be indicative of latent homosexual tendencies. You can't begin to reach the fame and success he has achieved, nor could you ever get a moment's attention from him, so your frustration is expressed in envy, hate and vitriolic nonsense.
Textbook.
Seek help before you destroy yourself.

The folks at Tass are slipping. The swift and merciless retribution bit is some peak Len shit, but the lack of Leviathan makes it one of your more flaccid efforts. Moves you away from entertaining psychopath and lands you more in pat-grandpa-on-the-head-because-he's-saying-stupid-shit-again territory.

Speaking of flaccid, I'm not interested in being famous, but if this is what "success" looks like in your boy's world, I'm good.

 

[mcmurtry66]

Which policies of Trump are important to you?

It’s less about the policies of trump as it is a referendum on the policies of progressives that have been an insidious cancer on cities beginning with the blm bs and following with the tabling of merit for identity politics.

Defund, bail projects, the attack on cops, soros DAs. Blinkard branding and disastrous outcomes Harris supported.

Lifting title 42, asylum agreements, remain in Mexico, and doubling the nonconfined docket as a result of the explosion at the border

The attack on energy without any real plan. Just more virtue signaling. Harris knows nothing about that shit.

The desire for fdr like social spending that spiked inflation and intended to be lasting as this admin wanted permanent cradle to grave benefits.

The virtue signaling bs with Covid.

Student loan executive actions that they knew were impermissible

The philosophy of equity of outcomes that is contrary to what makes this country great.

The lies and deceit from a national ban on abortions to biden has never been better. Sharp as a razor. Perpetuating a fraud on the American public.

Installing the dumbest candidate possible without any of us voting depriving us of better options yet maintaining the spirit of that dei idiocy

Harris and the pride of Chadon state are dumb and dumber. No business running this country. Trump is a pos who won’t do much but golf then die. The less gets done the better. And Vance is very smart. He’ll be fine. Like having a smart competent nerd happy to dig into the minutiae of shit.

On a personal level of the 4 Harris is the only one that would be fun to go out drinking with imo. But damn that is not a president. A program director at a nonprofit sure

 

[WhyisIUBBcursed]

It’s less about the policies of trump as it is a referendum on the policies of progressives that have been an insidious cancer on cities beginning with the blm bs and following with the tabling of merit for identity politics.

Defund, bail projects, the attack on cops, soros DAs. Blinkard branding and disastrous outcomes Harris supported.

Lifting title 42, asylum agreements, remain in Mexico, and doubling the nonconfined docket as a result of the explosion at the border

The attack on energy without any real plan. Just more virtue signaling. Harris knows nothing about that shit.

The desire for fdr like social spending that spiked inflation and intended to be lasting as this admin wanted permanent cradle to grave benefits.

The virtue signaling bs with Covid.

Student loan executive actions that they knew were impermissible

The philosophy of equity of outcomes that is contrary to what makes this country great.

The lies and deceit from a national ban on abortions to biden has never been better. Sharp as a razor. Perpetuating a fraud on the American public.

Installing the dumbest candidate possible without any of us voting depriving us of better options yet maintaining the spirit of that dei idiocy

Harris and the pride of Chadon state are dumb and dumber. No business running this country. Trump is a pos who won’t do much but golf then die. The less gets done the better. And Vance is very smart. He’ll be fine. Like having a smart competent nerd happy to dig into the minutiae of shit.

And the painful descent to the status of Great Britain is in full swing. Our choices are abysmal. This 2 party system is f—-d. I believe and know that you don’t that a landslide for Kamala MIGHT finally rid the Pubs of the Trump cancer and allow a resurgence of what the party could be. If it doesn’t work I don’t really give a shit anymore because we’re screwed either way

 

[mcmurtry66]

And the painful descent to the status of Great Britain is in full swing. Our choices are abysmal. This 2 party system is f—-d. I believe and know that you don’t that a landslide for Kamala MIGHT finally rid the Pubs of the Trump cancer and allow a resurgence of what the party could be. If it doesn’t work I don’t really give a shit anymore because we’re screwed either way

I tho k progressives are far worse. I’m more concerned with that. The republicans are now divided and that won’t be remedied any time soon. Trump diehards are old Dems, hate Cheney warmongering types, etc. the old party imo is dead. Shit the old pubs haven’t won in two decades. Kids aren’t going to want warmongering self dealing jackoffs like the cheneys with trickle down and shit. Any Cheney Reagan bush type today would be anachronistic

 

[WhyisIUBBcursed]

I tho k progressives are far worse. I’m more concerned with that. The republicans are now divided and that won’t be remedied any time soon. Trump diehards are old Dems, hate Cheney warmongering types, etc. the old party imo is dead. Shit the old pubs haven’t won in two decades. Kids aren’t going to want warmongering self dealing jackoffs like the cheneys with trickle down and shit. Any Cheney Reagan bush type today would be anachronistic

Are you joking? Reagan would be a star again

 

[mcmurtry66]

Are you joking? Reagan would be a star again

I don’t believe that in the least. The next president is the second most lib senator of this century. Old guard hasn’t won an election in two decades

 

[hoosboot]

I don’t believe that in the least. The next president is the second most lib senator of this century. Old guard hasn’t won an election in two decades

You must mean old guard Republican because Biden is as old guard as they come.

And if you're focused on Republican candidates, the "new guard" is not much better in elections. The "old guard" is 0-2 since GWB (who was 2-2 and pretty old guard) while the "new guard" is 1-1 and you're predicting another loss for them.

All that said, I think you're better off looking at who those candidates were running against. Beating Hillary wasn't the Herculean task that beating Obama was. A decent "old guard" candidate could have boat-raced Biden in 2020, but y'all were stuck with the incumbent.

 

[mcmurtry66]

You must mean old guard Republican because Biden is as old guard as they come.

And if you're focused on Republican candidates, the "new guard" is not much better in elections. The "old guard" is 0-2 since GWB (who was pretty old guard) while the "new guard" is 1-1 and you're predicting another loss for them.

All that said, I think you're better off looking at who those candidates were running against. Beating Hillary wasn't the Herculean task that beating Obama was. A decent "old guard" candidate could have boat-raced Biden in 2020, but y'all were stuck with the incumbent.

I don’t believe that at all. I think the make up of the parties has changed and why now we have way left candidates on the left and a populist old school Dem on the right. Haley didn’t stand a chance against trump. Harris today would wipe the floor with Reagan imo

 

[mcmurtry66]

You must mean old guard Republican because Biden is as old guard as they come.

And if you're focused on Republican candidates, the "new guard" is not much better in elections. The "old guard" is 0-2 since GWB (who was pretty old guard) while the "new guard" is 1-1 and you're predicting another loss for them.

All that said, I think you're better off looking at who those candidates were running against. Beating Hillary wasn't the Herculean task that beating Obama was. A decent "old guard" candidate could have boat-raced Biden in 2020, but y'all were stuck with the incumbent.

I think at this point there’s more of an appetite for identity politics than the old war trickle down dinosaurs. The country changed imo

 

[hoosboot]

I think at this point there’s more of an appetite for identity politics than the old war trickle down dinosaurs. The country changed imo

I don't think today's Reagan would be campaigning on trickle down economics. But I don't think he'd be doing what Trump is doing either. Reagan was extremely popular with the working class whites that Mark is talking about. He just didn't have the ethical and personality defects that Trump does. I'm not a huge fan of Reagan or his policies, but he'd be boat-racing Harris. Obama vs. Reagan would be one of those epic video game clashes pitting stars from different eras against each other. Cy Young facing off against Shohei Otani.

 

[UncleMark]

I don't think today's Reagan would be campaigning on trickle down economics. But I don't think he'd be doing what Trump is doing either. Reagan was extremely popular with the working class whites that Mark is talking about. He just didn't have the ethical and personality defects that Trump does. I'm not a huge fan of Reagan or his policies, but he'd be boat-racing Harris. Obama vs. Reagan would be one of those epic video game clashes pitting stars from different eras against each other. Cy Young facing off against Shohei Otani.

Reagan also had the advantage of running against Carter. Not a tough race.

 

[hookyIU1990]

Reagan also had the advantage of running against Carter. Not a tough race.

And then Mondale

 

[hoosboot]

Reagan also had the advantage of running against Carter. Not a tough race.

To a degree, but running against an incumbent is almost always tough.

 

[mcmurtry66]

To a degree, but running against an incumbent is almost always tough.

A god awful one.

Later turned out to be as fine a man as ever to live but as a president ….

 

[TheOriginalHappyGoat]

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Posting mostly for the video. He looks to be in really rough shape. Why are they rolling him out there and doing all of this theater about who he is going to vote for? Let the guy go gracefully....

When I saw that video, it made me sick. I have no idea what their situation is, and how honest all the reporting about it is, but that never should have been made public. Such a disgraceful way to treat a great man. He might still be perfectly lucid and truly looking forward to voting for Harris, but that video was embarrassing, and any family member with an ounce of sense would have done whatever they could to shut it down.

 

[UncleMark]

When I saw that video, it made me sick. I have no idea what their situation is, and how honest all the reporting about it is, but that never should have been made public. Such a disgraceful way to treat a great man. He might still be perfectly lucid and truly looking forward to voting for Harris, but that video was embarrassing, and any family member with an ounce of sense would have done whatever they could to shut it down.

There was a longer clip in MTIOTF's Carter thread that showed them wheeling him into place while upright and then reclining the wheelchair back so he could see the flyover they were doing for him. That wasn't as bad as seeing the short clip with him already laid back with his mouth gaping open.

 

[TheOriginalHappyGoat]

There was a longer clip in MTIOTF's Carter thread that showed them wheeling him into place while upright and then reclining the wheelchair back so he could see the flyover they were doing for him. That wasn't as bad as seeing the short clip with him already laid back with his mouth gaping open.

That's a really weak defense.

 

[UncleMark]

That's a really weak defense.

Didn't intend that to be a defense. Just saying that the longer, presumably whole/real/authorized clip wasn't as shocking to the conscience as the short one that started this thread. Neither should have been released -- or posted.

 

[TheOriginalHappyGoat]

Didn't intend that to be a defense. Just saying that the longer, presumably whole/real/authorized clip wasn't as shocking to the conscience as the short one that started this thread. Neither should have been released -- or posted.

Yeah, when you couple it with his - what was it, grandson? - or whatever doing the whole Harris thing, it was just disgusting.

 

[hookyIU1990]

Yeah, when you couple it with his - what was it, grandson? - or whatever doing the whole Harris thing, it was just disgusting.

Guessing it's a grandson that spent too much time with Uncle Billy.

 

[Charlesroast]

This was part of CBS Evening News on 10/1.

Didn't intend that to be a defense. Just saying that the longer, presumably whole/real/authorized clip wasn't as shocking to the conscience as the short one that started this thread. Neither should have been released -- or posted.

It appears the family invited CBS Evening News in to film the Navy jet flyover honoring President Carter’s 100th birthday. I assume the insight that President Carter wasn’t excited about his birthday but did want to survive to vote for VP Harris was part of the news. All in all a nice news story for CBS Evening News to run before CHS hosted the VP debate. No way the party currently run by a person lacking character and honor can compete with this exemplary package.

 

[VanPastorMan]

I remember in the 90’s the outcry from Republicans over the moral decay of Bill Clinton. I was one of those guys. In retrospect he was a pretty moderate Democrat and the world didn’t end while he was President. But he was impeached over his inability to keep his zipper up. Now a lot of the same people are saying it doesn’t matter at all that our chief executive has a decent moral compass. Trump may be the most evil, narcissistic MFer who’s ever resided in DC. And that’s saying something. He literally pushed a rebellion that threatened our Republic. The man should be in prison. NOT running a country

Clinton was impeached because he lied under oath about his relationship with an intern. If he had just had relations with her then no impeachment would have been brought up. It was the lying. I get it because if we can lie under oath and get away with it then what does that do to our justice system?
I do not believe Trump was leading a rebellion because he handed over the keys to the White House to Joe Biden. What Trump was wanting was to have his grievances heard concerning the Democrats cheating in the 2020 election.

 

[TheOriginalHappyGoat]

Clinton was impeached because he lied under oath about his relationship with an intern. If he had just had relations with her then no impeachment would have been brought up. It was the lying. I get it because if we can lie under oath and get away with it then what does that do to our justice system?
I do not believe Trump was leading a rebellion because he handed over the keys to the White House to Joe Biden. What Trump was wanting was to have his grievances heard concerning the Democrats cheating in the 2020 election.

LOL.

 

[WhyisIUBBcursed]

Clinton was impeached because he lied under oath about his relationship with an intern. If he had just had relations with her then no impeachment would have been brought up. It was the lying. I get it because if we can lie under oath and get away with it then what does that do to our justice system?
I do not believe Trump was leading a rebellion because he handed over the keys to the White House to Joe Biden. What Trump was wanting was to have his grievances heard concerning the Democrats cheating in the 2020 election.

Once again, Trumpers will excuse ANYTHING that man does. Pathetic

 

[UncleMark]

I do not believe Trump was leading a rebellion because he handed over the keys to the White House to Joe Biden.

He handed over the keys after his rebellion failed and before he was forcibly removed.

Who won the 2020 election?