These are not political prisoners
- Thread starter The Original Happy Goat
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by total arrests, no
by arrests for violent crimes, no
by convictions for violent crimes or even advancement to criminal trial charged with violent crimes, you may be right
So we should have blown away all of the BLM rioters. They were dumb too
Like Trump? Or are you ignoring that since he's the golden idol you worship?
That's not what happened in the case of the shooting though, so it's not an equivalent.
Depends on what you were protecting the BLM protestors from getting to. Were you blocking them from a large group of people that they were trying to actually kill, a group for whom you were specifically hired and trained to protect?
Think it through. You can do it! I believe in you!
As I recall, she climbed through a broken window into the Speaker's office and was warned by armed police not to do so. She disobeyed this order, continued the climbing, and was then shot.
Look, when police are in a volatile situation -- especially when they're outnumbered and feeling threatened -- you'd better follow every one of their orders carefully and slowly. If you don't, there's a pretty good chance you'll either get shot or hit with something less lethal.
I'm sure the cop who shot her didn't go looking for somebody to shoot that day. But she and the other marauders created that dangerous situation, not the police.
And all of this would apply to BLM rioters, too. If you're putting cops in a dangerous situation, it's not unlikely that they'll be using their weapons to protect themselves. I don't think they're considering the underlying cause of why people are rioting. Do you?
I wonder how many times VPM has said "follow instructions if you don't want to get shot."
It seems to be common for people to view these kinds of incidents through a lens of their political sympathies. And I think they usually aren't cognizant of it.
This is going to be fun. I guess they have videos from inside the D.C. jail also coming. Let the lawsuits begin!
Bring in Cheney, Kinzinger, Epps, etc. Hook up the battery and jumper cables and find what they know and when they knew. You can’t plead the 5th if you’ve been pardoned. 😁
Those rioters were smart enough not to film each other doing damage and then uploading the vids to Facebook.
A few months ago my daughter’s classmate wrecked the bathroom at their school. He sprayed his name WAS HERE on the wall.
Makes her grades even more disappointing
Jesus, what is with people these days? If I even stink up the joint more than I think is normal, I'll put on a Groucho Marx on the way out the door. Not going to put my goddamn signature on the wall.
Her school is a blast. It is so diverse. Black. White. Hispanic. Asian. Catholics. Jews. Rich kids. Poor kids. So much fun goes on up there. I think that’s part of her problem bc she’s easily distracted. So am I.
I wonder if she had been a Biden supporter people would mourn her loss.
I think you should stop wondering about other people and do some introspection.
I will say this I am surprised you don't agree with me. She was unarmed and had not attacked anyone physically. And that deserves death in your mind?
I said at the time it was both tragic and justified. I stand by that. I did not say she "deserved" anything. I stand by that.
You, however, seem to relish doling out "deserve" to people based on your political affiliation. You should probably move away from that.
Sorry, @crazed_hoosier2 I just saw this. I will be happy to break it down with you. Please be patient. I admire your ability to write. Unfortunately, I will be slower to respond to each point.
If they can prove malfeasance on a large scale in the pursuit of these people, he should have waited until that was proven to issue pardons.
It was a bad look to do it immediately.
Donald Trump is not a victim of misinformation. Let's start there. The underlying October surprise was that there was evidence of a quid pro quo by the Biden's. Correct? That was the claim.
This is going to be fun. I guess they have videos from inside the D.C. jail also coming. Let the lawsuits begin!
Looks who is out.
www.nbcnews.com
Ex-Proud Boys leader Enrique Tarrio back home after Trump's Jan. 6 clemency
“If we would have gotten a fair trial, I wouldn’t have been in a position where I needed a pardon,” he told reporters.
www.nbcnews.com
Rioters' $500 fine for burning down a Wendy's sparks outrage
Two people charged with burning down the restaurant in Atlanta in the summer of 2020 accepted plea deals.
www.newsweek.com
This is what really bothered people on the right. The DOJ launched their largest ever criminal probe into 1/6. Ever. That’s completely outrageous. For a protest that turned into a 2 hour riot.Rioters' $500 fine for burning down a Wendy's sparks outrage
Two people charged with burning down the restaurant in Atlanta in the summer of 2020 accepted plea deals.
Meanwhile during the summer of 2020 we watched cities burn while perpetrators walked off with a slap on the wrist from blue city prosecutors.
That disparate treatment, extreme sentencing (that psychopath Chutkan heard a lot of the cases) and over charging was a blight on the national consciousness.
I wish Trump had been a little more discerning in handing out pardons and commutations. But when the DOJ was aiming to indict 2K+ people, I can understand him for throwing his hands up and saying “**** it, let them all go” and putting an end to the nonsense once and for all.
I don’t want Bondi’s office looking into each case, one by one, to determine if people were treated fairly. When we know the vast majority weren’t.
Unlike the last administration, this DOJ should have bigger fish to fry.
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The timing matters because the Trump October surprise was an attempt to disinform/lie about the contents of the laptop. They waited until October to sow confusion and discontent. Hoping that their claims would be disseminated by right-wing media without allowing time for a rebuttal.
We've had time to verify Trump’s claims about the contents of the laptop now. Were they accurate? Of course not.
Additionally, remember how Sadam had biological weapons? How long did Bolton and other's have to vet that? Remember the discussions about how intelligence was graded and not perfect? How would you expect the 51 to vet the contents of the laptop in a week or two. The timing by Trump sped the process. They were incorrect about the validity of the laptop, but were correct about the invalidity of Trump’s claims.
And given such short notice, why wouldn't they think that Russia was involved? Trump and Rudy were both involved with Lev. I won't bother linking, but I can if needed?
"Contemporaneously accurate", is what I just described. It takes empathy. The 51 were correct at the time. And you can't just dismiss a caveat. At least not without being disingenuous yourself.
The 51 gave an opinion with a caveat. Trump lied about the contents along with everything else. "Contemporaneously and ever after inaccurate." Ask Lev(the admitted Russian agent). Another of the best people.
Btw, Rudy's tell is when he raises his eyebrows and bugs his eyes out. He lies without doing it, but everytime he does it, he's lying. Everytime. Horrible poker player. 119 million for lying about the wrong shit. Trump repeated the lies to the Georgia SoS.
I’m not aware of any allegation arising from the contents of the laptop that Joe Biden did X in exchange for Y.
What quid pro quo are you referring to?
So you’ve said a couple times.
Can you be specific about what lie Trump or his campaign was attempting to tell about the contents of the laptop? If you can provide a link, even better.
Let's say an angry mob shows up at your house chanting about how they want to kill your wife.
You yell "I have a gun, go away or I'll shoot!"
The break down your door. You barricade yourself and your wife in your bedroom.
You yell "I have a gun, go away or I'll shoot!"
The kick holes in the door and yell "there she is, kill her!"
You yell "I have a gun, go away or I'll shoot!"
The bust down the rest of the door.
You yell "I have a gun, go away or I'll shoot!"
They don't go away. They charge. You shoot.
Tragedy, or no?
