The Serious Election Day Thread
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I use “buffoon” in the sense that neither of them have the chops to be POTUS.
Hard disagree on the share of voice of the loud Left. They’re deafening across the country and their message is amplified in all universities by those that have never done anything but amplify that signal.
This election is a clear pushback on Wokeism and identity politics. Couple that with the border nightmare they created and you have a rout.
It’s up to you if you want to help reshape the Dem party to get back to their moderate, Keynesian economics and good foreign policy chops. I’m doing my part on the GOP side to root out Trumpism but that role just got a lot harder.
We will be on the cover of Science magazine early next year for finding the first small molecule blocking attachment of SARS-CoV-2 to the ACE2 receptor on human cells. It locks the SARS2 spike protein into its trimeric state, where one arm of it can't fold back to bind ACE2.
But come April 2025, we're unfunded.
Seriously, I think there should be a lot more research like this. I'm sure the pharmaceutical companies are doing a similar thing but it's not easy. A lot of trial and error but hopefully and educated guess for the trial.
I think you misdiagnose the takeaway on the election. There certainly is a pushback on those things, but I'm not sure it's the defining takeaway from the election. If the economic assessment of the electorate was positive, I think Harris would be President. I think both Brad and Goat have been nailing it with their take on what Harris should have been doing and what her prospects were given the hand she had to play.
You've already said that Democrats have been mostly right in terms of policy, especially economic ones, so I'm a little confused about "getting back" to their moderate policy chops.
And we'll have to "hard disagree" on the loudness. We have a large variety of institutions across the political spectrum and I don't find universities to be a substantially louder voice than other large institutions.
That is really terrible. I love Indiana. Even if I think you all are somewhat simple.l and childlike.
You’re not jaded. Stay that way.
I was just about to post the following
That broad can leave her Gen X card at the counter on her way out...maybe the boomers will take her in, more her style anyway.
I’ve raised over a mil in the last three years from Corp grants. For one product. Minimal effort. Pfizer. Gates. Foundations. There’s got to be Corp/foundation outlets for important research.
Thanks Chicago. You give really good compliments.
They haven’t left the building on their policy but they lead with rhetoric and the rhetoric is woke identity politics. If you poll independent voters and moderate republicans that despise Trump, they’ll mostly agree that what’s distasteful about the modern Democratic Party is its messaging from the loud Left. Their border policy is just a nested piece of their play on identity politics and it’s snapped them.
And I’m sorry but I highly disagree on universities not amplifying the loud Left more than other institutions - especially if you define institutions as corporations. Corporations are abandoning Wokeism like delta-front property in New Orleans. Their studies found it’s a cancer and is yet another reason why I trust the market more than I’ll ever trust government and academia.
Edit: have you forgotten the debacle from the deans of MIT, Harvard etc?
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Shame on her. Immediately fired or the magazine is a rag.
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Not this left leaning boomer. She can **** right off.
Haven't forgotten anything. I definite institutions as institutions (a society or organization founded for a religious, educational, social, or similar purpose.) It's interesting that you are suggesting that institutions are just universities, corporations, and government. My goodness, there are quite a few more than that.
I don't doubt what you suggest about polling independents and moderate republicans who despise Trump, but it doesn't really prove what you've said previously in this thread. Why would you find it instructive that independents and Republicans are turned off by messaging from the far left? That seems like something you could just pick up from the definitions.
You’re moving goalposts to try to win and in winnable argument. Institutions are governments, academia and corporations. The others are meaningless.
If you aren’t interested in winning independent votes, fine, I don’t care. Keep the messaging going.
One other Senate note....
I don't have the same antipathy for Sen. Bob Casey of Pennsylvania that I have for Sen. Brown of OH. My impression for Casey has always been that, for a Dem, he's one of the better ones. So I can't say I'm glad to see him lose.
But I am glad to see Dave McCormick poised to win -- and that is because McCormick is the kind of candidate the Republicans need more of. He very narrowly lost to Dr. Oz in 2022 in the Senate primary. I'm glad that he gave it another run and it looks like he'll be declared the winner soon.
More McCormicks and Sheehys, fewer Herschel Walkers and Kari Lakes...please.
My master plan didn't work. I wanted a Republican Congress and a Democratic President. Oh well, for two years we've got Trump and the Republicans. I hope they keep the MAGA part in check.
Sheehy defeated Tester w/o is one of my favorite moderate Dems.
Personally, hate to see moderates from either party disappear leaving us only with the more extreme.
With much respect and admiration, I'm not moving the goalposts and I'm not trying to win an argument. You started with the idea that the loud left was deafening in comparison to the loud right and backed that up with universities. I merely responded that there are lots of institutions that are part of the loud conversation and then even offered the dictionary definition of institutions.
How you got from that to me not being interested in winning independent votes, I'm not sure but I've tried to engage you in good faith while disagreeing with your conclusion.
FWIW, I don't believe that you don't care and I commend you for it.
I think both parties have been terrible on economic policies -- though obviously in different ways. We would presumably include fiscal policies in the broader term of economic policies. And the reality is that our fiscal situation is bad and getting worse, with no remedy in sight. So it's creates some cognitive dissonance for me to know this and then hear somebody say "OK, guys. Good job!"
There's a reason I picked Javier Milei as my write-in vote. Because he's a very rare example of a politician who genuinely does know what good economic policies are. If he can survive long enough politically to get his policy framework in place and leave it in place for an extended period of time, then Argentina will go back to being one of most prosperous societies in the world -- as they were 100 or so years ago.
It should provide a valuable lesson for all countries. It doesn't have to be this way.
Well, I didn't want Trump. Of course, I didn't want Harris either. And, unlike you, I had no preference between the two.
But, given that we got Trump, I'm glad that he'll have a Republican Senate so he can get Thomas (and Alito?) replaced in the next couple years. Hopefully they'll both go along with it. It would be good to guard against another Ginsburg situation happening.
I was surprised, but pleased to see Wakeboarder acknowledge that he thinks Dems mostly have it right in terms of economic policy right now. Couldn't imagine you thinking the same, so not surprised.
We did Maui in March, a few months before the fires. The whales were incredible. Definitely reserve a sunrise pass for Haleakala, & if you’re fit, hike down into the crater some on the Sliding Sands trail. Snorkeling at Molokini crater was great too. Road to Hana was cool, but we did it backwards & went around the backside of the island in a Jeep which I loved, but cliff side, single lane dirt roads with no guardrails aren’t for everyone. My wife wanted to kill me in spite of breathtaking views with NO ONE around for over an hour of driving. Golf at Wailea, can’t recall if we played Gold or Emerald, but it was beautiful. Wanted to play the Plantation Course at Kapalua where we stayed, but couldn’t justify spending $500+ for my 10 year old’s greens fee + club rental. Used Turo to rent a Jeep & saved @ $500 vs rental. Old Lahaina was really cool, too bad it’s gone.🙁. If you’re going to spend anytime on Maui lemme know if you’re looking for any info. Not an expert, but did a ton of research & had a great trip.
You should see the anti-McCormick ads here in PA. The looney left on full display.
If you include fiscal activities in economic policy then I agree. But broadly speaking the Dems are much more correct about Keynesian economics than the GOP is about supply side economics which is a complete myth. Keynesian economics - when applied properly - are recession busting and can drive growth when used properly. Supply side / Reagonomics are just ways to ensure the rich get richer and has little effect on the common man.
Same in Ohio with the anti-Moreno ads.
Also, you were usually on the right side by betting the over in the over/under of 4 on how many Sherrod Brown anti-Moreno mailing pieces would show up in the daily mail. The amounts that must have been spent must be staggering.
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My kids heard the words “rape or incest” six times per day. The looney left can go **** itself.
I feel like this post was a drop-the-gloves moment on the economics front for crazedhoosier.
Wake, producing goods and providing services more efficiently (cheaper) is what increases living standards. Printing new pieces of paper is what ends up making the rich wealthier and increases wealth disparity.
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If that’s meant to be a counter point, it’s not. I fully Agree that increased productivity is what drives growth - but it doesn’t come from tax cuts - that’s the nutty myth of pure Reagonomics.
Wake, producing goods and providing services more efficiently (cheaper) is what increases living standards. Printing new pieces of paper is what ends up making the rich wealthier.
Don’t get me wrong, I want the government out of everything as much as possible, but they are a major factor in driving growth. Especially when it comes to technological investment.
Why do you think Adam Schiff, Matt Geatz, and Bernie Sanders are better at allocating capital for investment than Musk, Gates, and Pichai?
Let me try an answer/devil's advocate:
because left unchecked, capitalism tends to concentrate wealth in a very select group, and leave a large gap in between them and the general populace. That gap in and of itself causes social unrest and is bad for society. And if the govt takes it for redistriubtion purposes (which it will, because those politicians want to buy votes from the largest segment of voters they can), it alleviates that stressor.
Correct. And tax cuts lead to a) larger deficits (proven time and time again) and b) an increased propensity to save rather than invest in future growth re productivity enhancements
Hearing helicopters overhead (Chicago). Quick review of local headlines and the protests are under way! Hopefully they are 100% peaceful!
