The Serious Election Day Thread

[Marvin the Martian]

Everyone has been afraid to ask the hard question in this thread. I will, does Cignetti coach basketball?

 

[Univee2]

Everyone has been afraid to ask the hard question in this thread. I will, does Cignetti coach basketball?

If he doesn’t, he should.

Running plays through Ballo doesn’t seem to be working.

 

[PhishPhan682]

Everyone has been afraid to ask the hard question in this thread. I will, does Cignetti coach basketball?

@mike41703

 

[stollcpa]

We did Maui in March, a few months before the fires. The whales were incredible. Definitely reserve a sunrise pass for Haleakala, & if you’re fit, hike down into the crater some on the Sliding Sands trail. Snorkeling at Molokini crater was great too. Road to Hana was cool, but we did it backwards & went around the backside of the island in a Jeep which I loved, but cliff side, single lane dirt roads with no guardrails aren’t for everyone. My wife wanted to kill me in spite of breathtaking views with NO ONE around for over an hour of driving. Golf at Wailea, can’t recall if we played Gold or Emerald, but it was beautiful. Wanted to play the Plantation Course at Kapalua where we stayed, but couldn’t justify spending $500+ for my 10 year old’s greens fee + club rental. Used Turo to rent a Jeep & saved @ $500 vs rental. Old Lahaina was really cool, too bad it’s gone.🙁. If you’re going to spend anytime on Maui lemme know if you’re looking for any info. Not an expert, but did a ton of research & had a great trip.

Thank you!

 

[snarlcakes]

Let me try an answer/devil's advocate:

because left unchecked, capitalism tends to concentrate wealth in a very select group, and leave a large gap in between them and the general populace. That gap in and of itself causes social unrest and is bad for society. And if the govt takes it for redistriubtion purposes (which it will, because those politicians want to buy votes from the largest segment of voters they can), it alleviates that stressor.

That’s a bug of fiat based system. You first should ask yourself how does wealth get concentrated? The answer should be they are creating more value to society overall, so who cares because prices are decreasing for all of us. The lower prices benefit all of us, which isn’t happening because the money supply is constantly being increased stealing society’s productivity gains. Also, credit should match savings in a free market.

 

[snarlcakes]

Did I say they were?

Yes. You said lowering taxes is a nutty myth that doesn’t increase productivity, which means you’re indirectly arguing governments are better at allocating capital than private businesses. I added the names to prove my point on why you’re wrong.

 

[BadWakeboarder]

Yes. You said lowering taxes is a nutty myth that doesn’t increase productivity, which means you’re indirectly arguing governments are better at allocating capital than private businesses. I added the names to prove my point on why you’re wrong.

Lol. Sorry bud I won’t engage in this simpletonian exercise. You know I’m not talking about individual congressmen when I talk about government economic actions.

 

[snarlcakes]

Lol. Sorry bud I won’t engage in this simpletonian exercise. You know I’m not talking about individual congressmen when I talk about government economic actions.

No, worries. I’m not giving up on you, though. One day you’ll understand Keynes might have known some things, but economics wasn’t one of them.

 

[Spartans9312]

 

[BadWakeboarder]

No, worries. I’m not giving up on you, though. One day you’ll understand Keynes might have known some things, but economics wasn’t one of them.

That’s fine - but I’d love to see examples of where pure free markets and monetarism rescued the economy from recession or depression.

In reality the best mix is adapted to whatever cycle we’re in, but I much more believe in Friedman principles outside of recessions and Keynes during downturns.

 

[BradStevens]

That’s a bug of fiat based system. You first should ask yourself how does wealth get concentrated? The answer should be they are creating more value to society overall, so who cares because prices are decreasing for all of us. The lower prices benefit all of us, which isn’t happening because the money supply is constantly being increased stealing society’s productivity gains. Also, credit should match savings in a free market.

People care about the concentration of wealth because people are jealous or don’t think it’s fair. It doesn’t really matter why, just that it happens and leads to uprisings or riots or insurrection and is bad for society.

So I don’t think you’ve explained away the concern, just justified it on a moral level.

I think you have to push back on the notion it is a psychological inevitability.

 

[MyTeamIsOnTheFloor]

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