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The Serious Election Day Thread

South Carolina black belt counties all moved about 9 points right this year. Same story in much of rural Georgia, Alabama, and the rest of the black belt. Clyburn will win
 
It will be interesting to see where the Dems go from here.

I posted a few weeks ago about the prospect of Harris losing. I wonder if they don’t end up having their own cold civil war like the Republicans have been having for the past decade or so.
I think they will. There isn't a ton of unity in what the party stands for...much like with the GOP. I'm not sure the next Dem presidential candidate is even someone on the national radar right now.
 
I'm not conceding yet. My girl Jen reminds us that there are still lots of votes from urban centers in Philly, Grand Rapids, Detroit, and Dane Co. WI to report.
National numbers are showing Trump with sizable gains among Black and Brown folks. The results from the cities won’t be what they have been.

So far no shutdowns of counts to restart in the morning.
 
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Because the party doesn't do well speaking to men. Kamala isn't the only issue, runs deeper than just her.
True, but I point out that men have all the real power with you know, real numbers, and no one on the right so far has agreed it is a problem. So any effort by the Ds to equalize the power structure will result in men not wanting to lose power. I don't know how to square that circle.
 
Trump improved in areas that had been becoming more blue over the last two decades.

Franklin Co, Ohio. Hamilton Co, Ohio. Newcastle Co, Delaware. Hunterdon Co, New Jersey. Kendall Co, Illinois. Wyandotte Co, Kansas. A lot of suburban Texas. Dekalb, Clayton, and Fulton counties in Georgia.
 
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True, but I point out that men have all the real power with you know, real numbers, and no one on the right so far has agreed it is a problem. So any effort by the Ds to equalize the power structure will result in men not wanting to lose power. I don't know how to square that circle.
Women dominate the STEM degrees, after decades of gains. Dominate teaching as well.

Women are far from underprivileged.

It was a bad argument and you got called on it. Blue collar men aren't voting based on white collar power.
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True, but I point out that men have all the real power with you know, real numbers, and no one on the right so far has agreed it is a problem. So any effort by the Ds to equalize the power structure will result in men not wanting to lose power. I don't know how to square that circle.

Wonder what would have happened if Biden didn't bend over for the progressives and ran with Amy Klobuchar 4 years ago... And she got bumped up to the top of the ticket. She's exponentially more impressive than Kamala
 
True, but I point out that men have all the real power with you know, real numbers, and no one on the right so far has agreed it is a problem. So any effort by the Ds to equalize the power structure will result in men not wanting to lose power. I don't know how to square that circle.
Maybe women are choosing what they want and being in positions of power isn't it.
 
National numbers are showing Trump with sizable gains among Black and Brown folks. The results from the cities won’t be what they have been.

So far no shutdowns of counts to restart in the morning.
They didn't stop the vote count until 2am in 2020....
 
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True, but I point out that men have all the real power with you know, real numbers, and no one on the right so far has agreed it is a problem. So any effort by the Ds to equalize the power structure will result in men not wanting to lose power. I don't know how to square that circle.
It isn't about power. That is what I am saying. When you are telling voting men that they need to give up their hold on the patriarchy and things like that and then comparing that to what is happening to normal dudes, the message falls flat. Girls are doing better in school. More women are getting degrees. More women are homeowners. And the reaction you had is exactly the type of reaction that I think turns guys off. It isn't about power, it is that you (the Democrats) don't talk to my issues and when you (the Democrats) do talk to me you paint this picture that I should STFU and step aside for the girls because the top .0001% of men who have always run the world still do. It is just god awful messaging to blue collar dudes who used to be a big part of that coalition.
 
Bresnahan probably going to flip PA-8. Perry will probably win in PA-10. Sykes is down to a 5 point lead in OH-13. Should be a Democratic drop in there Michigan strongholds soon
 
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