She is going to play with The Foo Fighters in September in a tribute to Hawkins at Wembley.
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My old man said Ringo sucked as a drummer.
I never forgave him.
Now Rashida’s dad.
Aronoff is my favorite. He can really play the quarter notes.
Fresh from Stranger Things....if you don't want to watch the whole video at least take about 30 seconds and forward the video to about the 3:35 mark and watch a guy shred a guitar solo on a violin.
Not Wrigley. But if I'm not mistaken the first time they played this together publicly. Tom recounts a great story about that night, and the way they were able to work it out prior to the show...
Easy to lose track of the fact that this was originally an acoustic ballad off of the 90s solo Tom Joad record...
Your story about Grohl meeting the fan who challenged him on twitter was pretty cool...
Here are a couple of guys who overcame really long odds (even getting in the Pit) to find themselves on stage at a Springsteen show...
This is Matt Aucoin. He flew from his home in Texas (with his sign) to Philly for a River show at Citizens Bank. Not only did he win a spot in the Pit lottery, but he was able to get close enough for Bruce to see his sign. and call an audible for No Surrender which wasn't on the setlist. Various fans recorded it, but this is Matt's own compilation of the various fan videos...
This is Nathan Testa who managed to get onstage in Brisbane during the Australian leg. Not sure about Pit procedures in OZ, but again he managed to get his sign noticed. And he even got an impromptu lesson from Bruce about being a "rock star". And of course the obligatory "selfie"...
Change gears... Incredible cover of a traditional song I heard when I was a little shaver...
Another awesome cover of a country classic
And speaking of country classics... Bob McGill is a noted songwriter who penned songs for The Dead, Joe Cocker, BJ Thomas and others. But this song he wrote for Don Williams may be my favorite. The lyrics are just too insightful for a typical "country song"...
I love that tune, especially that version .. I'm surprised I didn't post it already it's one of my go to tunes...
Dave Grohl is a great drummer, and not just a great rock drummer, and def befitting of being on a top 100 all time drummer list. And while Taylor Hawkins was a great drummer himself, DG was much better imo.
I’m not arguing with you here TMP, because I’m pretty sure you agree with all that. Plenty of heavy industry drummers all agree DG is a super heavy….even some of the jazz guys I know think he’s badass. I personally really like the playing he did with the Queens of the Stoneage. Even the drumming on that Tenacious D record is notable. Hehe
He very much has a definitive style, and very skillful.
Also, Ringo is a great drummer, and not just because he was the first guy. Anyone who thinks Ringo sucks is kind of a musical dummy.
Grohl still doesn't rate as "great" or one of the "best in the world". To me that equals elite, the top 1%. I reserve that word for the very top few ... he's good, no doubt.... but there's too many better to consider him one of the best in the world..
On Ringo .. eh still doesn't rate as "great", but very damn close ... where he was great was influencing a whole generation of drummers that came after him. That's something that may be more important than his technical ability.
He's very accomplished.. how many different time signatures is in this song alone .. 5, 6?
I've always considered Bonnie Raitt's cover of this Del Shannon classic as my favorite. But this Wilbury's version is pretty good...
Speaking of Bonnie, this performance (with Bruce Hornsby on piano) is soul wrenching...I remember when Mike Reid was an All Pro with the Bengals...
Once again, Bonnie and Bruce joined up along with Shawn Colvin to accompany Jackson Browne on what looks to be a pretty cold night in the Rockies. Check out this 1999 Red Rocks performance of Bright Baby Blues featuring exquisite harmonies and our guy David Lindley in a splendid hounds tooth sports coat working his magic...
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what does “elite” mean? Fast? Technical? DG is arguably no less technical than Bonham, but no one argues that he’s “only a rock drummer”. Of course, no one thinks bonham sucks. No one even thinks he’s overrated, he’s number one on the list. (I know….these lists are silly, and I’m not advocating for anyone to take such a list literally in any way…..come to think of it, this argument I’m making is dumb)
The creative ideas and knowledge they display, first and foremost***. Combined with advanced technical ability. 90 mental, 10 technical .. and the technical portion is important, but without the idea it's boring. Plus the ever elusive unexplainable quality we call "feel". which comes from making an emotional investment into what you're are playing... I think?
DG, I think, has great feel because he plays with so much passion and energy... his ideas, are a bit mundane and common. To me at least, there's nothing memorable or profound there. He did his job...
I'm not saying DG isn't good or that he sucks, you get that right? I'm just saying he's not on the list as one of the greatest drummers in the world.. He's just not. That list above probably doesn't capture a 1/10th of them. fwiw - I didn't look at it ... but I probably don't need to, lists are almost always based on popularity..
Bonham played some complicated shit.. I know you know that ... but.. example: the Moroccan influenced stuff with instruments playing in different time signatures ...
He was more than a rock drummer..
Dynamically, he could play loud, soft, slow, fast, and he didn't over bash the damn cymbals (that one is a personal peeve). Or at least on recordings they're not at the top of the mix.. I never heard him live of course..
Then listen to Rock n Roll where he's basically playing a bit off from the rest of the band .. or they're playing bit off him, you know what I mean .. It's his idea on display, it's the thing that makes that song groove.
*** this quality makes John P. Jones the best and most complete musician in that band. All those riffs are from his bank of knowledge, not Jimmy's. Plus, JPJ was the arranger during creation, Jimmy the after on the board.
fwiw - we're not arguing, we're just discussing drummers ...
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"The drummer (and bass) is the most important piece to any band, a bad drummer (and/or bass) and it doesn't matter who the rest of the guys are"
The Sex Pistols found that out the hard way.
I disagree. I think Jimmy Page was the heart of Led Zeppelin. Watch this description of how he wrote Stairway to Heaven and how it broke a lot of rules of songwriting. I think he's a genius.
I got dragged to a Robert Plant show a few years agon and I was blown away. His voice isn't as good as it used to be, but man, he really put on a fantastic show.
I don't think anyone has mentioned these guys as one of the greats, but they do describe how it's difficult to keep a great drummer.
I don't think this song has made it here, and I know some of you hate it. I just finished watching The Day the Music Died on Paramount Plus, it is amazing how many musicians spoke of it's importance. And McLean finally gives the meaning, nope, if he wanted the jester to be Dylan he would have said Dylan.
So who was the jester?
that song is a campfire sing along classic .. as is this
The jester represents a carefree time in America, grabbing the thorny crowd is the shit getting real.
Thanks. I never heard that before ..
Ya know, it actually fits better for Dylan though. The jacket, playing for the king and queen, the voice of the people, the motorcycle wreck, taking Elvis' crown.
That album is amazing.
One thing that I read about that album when I bought it (dating myself here) is that isn't a photo on the cover. It's a painting.
I just rocked out to this yesterday! I also love Down Rodeo from that album. Kinda controversial lyrics which is what made Rage so great:
This song is so underappreciated ... what a great little piece of music.
Greatest musician of the 20th century. No one impacted how music was played more than he did. No one.
Since it's Saturday night...
Pretty amazing, and kind of surreal... Bowie on sax and Ian Hunter on lead vocals. It was 1992, so it may have been one of the final onstage appearances for Mick Ronson who died of cancer a year later...
Ian Hunter is the epitome of a Rock& Roll star...
