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Maybe I'm wrong, but as I look at the chart, it seems to represent a lot of people on the top 10 lines who were more subtle and criminally adept about not drawing attention to their possible wrong doing, in comparison to those from the Trump team making the news.For those who understand things best in a picture format:
I suspect this is going to go into the 2020 campaign season.I suspect the rest of this year is going to be a wild ride.
Nope. I was told on here that it should be wrapped up by now.For those who understand things best in a picture format:
Isn't there some rule that it has to be wrapped up by Sep 1?Nope. I was told on here that it should be wrapped up by now.
Nope. I was told on here that it should be wrapped up by now.
What will happen if this doesn't get to Trump?Patience my yun Jedi. In two weeks time according to the patriot Crazy Eyes.
What will happen if this doesn't get to Trump?
What will happen if this doesn't get to Trump?
Isn't there some rule that it has to be wrapped up by Sep 1?
No no on no no... I'm sure I heard Rudy say the Justice Dept. has a rule that they can't investigate anyone 60 days prior to an election.Justice Department guidelines say they shouldn't subpoena/indict someone up for reelection in the last couple months before election day. But Trump isn't up for reelection in 2018.
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No no on no no... I'm sure I heard Rudy say the Justice Dept. has a rule that they can't investigate anyone 60 days prior to an election.
I don't understand why an organization like 538 would put indictments and convictions in the same bubble. Those are not the same or even similar. I also don't understnad why anybody would count indictments of individuals and organizations who are not subject to US court jurisdiction as progress unless somebody is just wanting to pad statistics.
I don't understand why an organization like 538 would put indictments and convictions in the same bubble. Those are not the same or even similar. I also don't understnad why anybody would count indictments of individuals and organizations who are not subject to US court jurisdiction as progress unless somebody is just wanting to pad statistics.
Maybe because Mueller's mandate was to investigate RUSSIAN INVOLVEMENT in the 2016 election and they realize he takes it seriously. Only an idiot believes Mueller is in this for the money/the prestige or even animosity towards Trump. He's likely as embarrassed and mortified as some of the rest of us are that this country could elect Trump, but the job pays less than $180,000/ yr.
There are people on this board who exceed that level of income, and Mueller and all of his team basically left $Million dollar positions at high profile,prestigious law firms and took a MASSIVE pay cut. Not only that,but who would willingly subject themselves to the clown tandem of Trump/Giuliani and the circus misfits they play to with their nonsensical taunts and tweets?
Maybe he's embarrassed at what has happened to his party,those folks certainly abound. But I imagine it's deeper and maybe (like Steele) he was deeply troubled by the idea that Putin had decided to interject himself into the US body politic, and may have had unintentional (or even intentional) collaboration from a certain strong man worshipping doofus...
You’re missing the point. These things take time, and the Mueller investigation has found a LOT of evidence of foreign entanglements re: Trump’s administration in a very short amount of time.
And they’ve done it while facing a ton of obstructive tactics by both the Trump administration, and legislators that view keeping him safe their #1 priority. Paul Ryan ought to be run out of town for keeping Nunes as the head of the house intelligence committee. It’s very clear (especially after the audio at a recent fundraiser dinner was leaked) that he doesn’t care about the country safe. He only cares about keeping pubs in control of all three branches- which includes running interference from his position for Trump.
Think about this- the senate intelligence committee is still investigating, and hasn’t been compromised from within to this point. And to a senator, the senate pubs continue to support the Mueller investigation.
What does that tell you?
Nuance is not your strong point.
I'm not talking about Mueller. I am talking about the graph and the way the OP cites the graph as a comparison to the other special investigations.
I don't understand why an organization like 538 would put indictments and convictions in the same bubble. Those are not the same or even similar.
Nuance is not your strong point.
I'm not talking about Mueller. I am talking about the graph and the way the OP cites the graph as a comparison to the other special investigations.
What was the point of your post? Was it to discredit the chart?
I don’t see any they reason for you to post what you did. Am I off base?
My response was more to this question...
"I also don't understnad why anybody would count indictments of individuals and organizations who are not subject to US court jurisdiction as progress unless somebody is just wanting to pad statistics."
I think I read somewhere that naming specific GRU agents may serve to alert other NATO security services (like a most-wanted list). It should at least curtail the free travel of the named agents, and help to limit the effects of their meddling elsewhere, like Western Europe, for example...
I guess that is a point. But I think all nations have a more discreet and more reliable method to distribute this kind of information than a special counsel announcing indictments. Even the dreaded Russians cooperated with us and gave us warnings about the Boston Marathon bombers.
So what? As long as they used the same criteria for all the different timelines, the comparison is valid.I don't understand why an organization like 538 would put indictments and convictions in the same bubble. Those are not the same or even similar.
Maybe because the other administrations didn't have active foreign involvement. You gotta work with what you've found.I also don't understnad why anybody would count indictments of individuals and organizations who are not subject to US court jurisdiction as progress unless somebody is just wanting to pad statistics.
So what? As long as they used the same criteria for all the different timelines, the comparison is valid.
Maybe because the other administrations didn't have active foreign involvement. You gotta work with what you've found.
So what? As long as they used the same criteria for all the different timelines, the comparison is valid.
Nuance isn't your strong suit. If they did that for all the different timelines, then the graph -- which is designed for comparative purposes -- is valid.The “so what” is putting indictments and convictions in the same bubble.
Nuance isn't your strong suit. If they did that for all the different timelines, then the graph -- which is designed for comparative purposes -- is valid.
I posted to discredit the point in the OP. Obviously that includes the weakness of the chart.