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the Khashoggi thing has really died down

kurt cloverdales

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Trumps statement promoting the LIV tour and how the tour will make billions for the Saudis, he also was aware of 9-11 families protesting the event, but he really wasn't sure what they were upset about. his words, can't wait to get him back in 24 such a great statesman and voice for our country.
 
Trumps statement promoting the LIV tour and how the tour will make billions for the Saudis, he also was aware of 9-11 families protesting the event, but he really wasn't sure what they were upset about. his words, can't wait to get him back in 24 such a great statesman and voice for our country.
It’s time for you Kurt, to get your adult diaper changed!
 
Biden maintaining the Trump best buddy policy with the Saudis greatly infuriates the progressives who (we are told) are in charge. Strange.
 
Biden maintaining the Trump best buddy policy with the Saudis greatly infuriates the progressives who (we are told) are in charge. Strange.
LMAO! The sanctimonious Biden claiming he would never deal with the Saudis and then kissing their ass when he needs their oil is easily the biggest lie in politics. And no shame what-so-ever.

Way to stick to your principles, Democrats!
 
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Biden maintaining the Trump best buddy policy with the Saudis greatly infuriates the progressives who (we are told) are in charge. Strange.
Yeah. Reality slapped the old man in the face and now he has to go beg for forgiveness. Patting the progressives on the head is all well and good until it gets in the way of trivial things like Middle East peace and cost of living.

 
Trumps statement promoting the LIV tour and how the tour will make billions for the Saudis, he also was aware of 9-11 families protesting the event, but he really wasn't sure what they were upset about. his words, can't wait to get him back in 24 such a great statesman and voice for our country.

He's pathetic if we are being honest.
 
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In the case of the Saudis and Biden's comments, running your mouth is different than actually having to do the job.

And he really screwed the pooch with his idiotic pivot back to Iran. Say what you will about Trump but his foreign policy team was making headway in the Middle East. Biden flushed quite a bit of that down the toilet to try and kiss Iran's ass for some inexplicable reason.
 
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LOL at the Trumpers slamming Biden for basically copying Trump up and down the line on dealing with the Saudis. If you loved what Trump was doing, why hate that Biden is still doing it? If you hated what Trump was doing, then you should hate that Biden is still doing it. The "squad" hates everything about Biden's Saudi policies.
 
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Trumps statement promoting the LIV tour and how the tour will make billions for the Saudis, he also was aware of 9-11 families protesting the event, but he really wasn't sure what they were upset about. his words, can't wait to get him back in 24 such a great statesman and voice for our country.

and exactly where are these billions coming from?

still haven't figured out exactly what the Saudis are going for here.
 
Trumps statement promoting the LIV tour and how the tour will make billions for the Saudis, he also was aware of 9-11 families protesting the event, but he really wasn't sure what they were upset about. his words, can't wait to get him back in 24 such a great statesman and voice for our country.
Holy shit..another thread about Trump…
 
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LOL at the Trumpers slamming Biden for basically copying Trump up and down the line on dealing with the Saudis. If you loved what Trump was doing, why hate that Biden is still doing it? If you hated what Trump was doing, then you should hate that Biden is still doing it. The "squad" hates everything about Biden's Saudi policies.
You are uninformed. Biden is trying to give CPR to JCPOA, do you think the Saudis and Israel are supportive of that? He claims he raised the Khashoggi murder to MBS while the Saudis say otherwise, he’s likely lying.

He’s trying to split the baby because it would be foolish not to hop onboard the Abraham accords at this point.

At some point Mossad in conjunction with their now Sunni Allie’s will likely do the rest of the world a favor and take out Irans ability to create a nuclear weapon.

The Obama administrations disastrous foreign policy has inadvertently united the Middle East against the largest state sponsor of terrorism in the world. So I guess kudos to them for that.
 
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In the case of the Saudis and Biden's comments, running your mouth is different than actually having to do the job.

And he really screwed the pooch with his idiotic pivot back to Iran. Say what you will about Trump but his foreign policy team was making headway in the Middle East. Biden flushed quite a bit of that down the toilet to try and kiss Iran's ass for some inexplicable reason.
Not an inexplicable reason at all.
Look at the characters in the Oblamer team running the government....
Remember the bales of cash flown to the mullahs by this criminal enterprise?

No surprise at all.
 
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In the case of the Saudis and Biden's comments, running your mouth is different than actually having to do the job.

And he really screwed the pooch with his idiotic pivot back to Iran. Say what you will about Trump but his foreign policy team was making headway in the Middle East. Biden flushed quite a bit of that down the toilet to try and kiss Iran's ass for some inexplicable reason.

the US has two different approaches to Iran and neither is great. one is to not make deals, be more aggressive, and then watch them quickly build a nuclear bomb. the other is to make deals, be more passive, and then watch them slowly build a nuclear bomb. pick your poison but you do have to pick. this is another regime we can't sanction out of existence or really threaten with direct attack but we could pick an approach and stick with it for more than four years...
 
the US has two different approaches to Iran and neither is great. one is to not make deals, be more aggressive, and then watch them quickly build a nuclear bomb. the other is to make deals, be more passive, and then watch them slowly build a nuclear bomb. pick your poison but you do have to pick. this is another regime we can't sanction out of existence or really threaten with direct attack but we could pick an approach and stick with it for more than four years...
An approach like isolating them in their region by building relations between enemies to face the shared threat of Iran? Or the approach that still ends with them nuclear armed, they are not our "ally", and neither are any of the other petro producing states in the region. That's the Iran appeasement end state.

I agree we need to pick one, but the choice should be the option that at least has some chance of success. The Obama/Biden kiss Iran's ass strategy is not it.
 
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An approach like isolating them in their region by building relations between enemies to face the shared threat of Iran? Or the approach that still ends with them nuclear armed, they are not our "ally", and neither are any of the other petro producing states in the region. That's the Iran appeasement end state.

I agree we need to pick one, but the choice should be the option that at least has some chance of success. The Obama/Biden kiss Iran's ass strategy is not it.

you could be right. I'm torn on it but my 401k definitely doesn't want Israeli fighters shooing missiles into Iran's underground nuclear facilities considering all the predicted and unforeseen consequences that would come from that.
 
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