There's an example above where he asks people to walk up to complete strangers and tell them not to vaccinate their kid. What else can that be other than anti-vaccine?
The Kennedy Conundrum
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Is that supposed to be something we should admire?
Like, it’s ok to be an asshole as long as you’re up front about being an asshole.
I’ll let you in on a secret. Journalists lie and miss lead people. I want to see a video of him saying it. Post it.
I responded to the grifter characterization. I don’t think he is. I believe he’s sincere. Nutty. But sincere
He does literally say that. As he then proceeds to walk it back in both words and actions.
I always assumed he doesn’t give a shit because he’s a Kennedy (technically the government might have killed his dad). He’s not going to win, so he just talks about whatever he wants. His takes on vaccines aren’t really that interesting, but because of the Covid disaster Democrats questioning medical institutions are off limits. He questioned the amount kids take today and something else about the testing of them. He did same some weird shit about effecting Chinese people more or something. butyouremails brought up.
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I have to go to sleep. Pill is kicking in. 5:30 flight tomorrow. I’ll find one then
Yeah I know the poll Farva posted is recent, but it is Rassmussen. And compared to these various polls from a little over a month ago. Ras is a pretty big outlier...
In this table, the first set of favorable/unfavorable ratings are the poll respondents who self identified as Democrats. The consensous shows RFK -5 with Dems and +28 with Pubs.
Republicans like RFK Jr. more than Democrats do
Polls of Robert F. Kennedy Jr.’s favorable and unfavorable ratings among Democrats and Republicans conducted since July 1, 2023, as of 12 p.m. on Aug. 3| | ||||||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| POLLSTER | DATES | POP. | FAV | UNFAV. | NET | FAV. | UNFAV. | NET | ||
| Marquette Law | July 7-12 | RV | 29% | 37% | -8 | 48% | 19% | +29 | ||
| Ipsos/Reuters | July 11-17 | A | 52 | 42 | +10 | 62 | 30 | +32 | ||
| Quinnipiac | July 13-17 | RV | 21 | 47 | -26 | 48 | 22 | +26 | ||
| NewsNation | July 17-18 | RV | 40 | 37 | +3 | 52 | 23 | +29 | ||
| Harris/Harvard | July 19-20 | RV | 51 | 26 | +25 | 46 | 26 | +20 | ||
| Morning Consult | July 20-22 | LV | 38 | 41 | -3 | 50 | 27 | +23 | ||
| New York Times/Siena College | July 23-27 | RV | 22 | 53 | -31 | 54 | 18 | +36 | ||
| Echelon Insights | July 24-27 | LV | 31 | 44 | -13 | 50 | 20 | +30 | ||
| Average | 36 | 41 | -5 | 51 | 23 | +28 |
Obviously the reason republicans want the democrats to run RFK is because RFK has such a great chance of winning. Yes, I’m sure that’s it. If Biden is so unpopular, the republican nominee should easily beat him.
I was just talking to my dad and stepmom tonight about him.
Both told me if he is on the ballot, they will vote for him. They were big Trump supporters last cycle but think he's cookoo now.
That’s weird. Trump is a malignant narcissist and a pathological liar, but I don’t think he’s clinically insane. Kennedy is definitely f*****g nuts.
Yes. That’s what I fight against.
I remain curious about what happened to that 750,000 man Russian winter offensive last winter? You said it was a sure thing. I think you were duped into repeating gaslighting from Russophile propagandists.
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You're overlooking an important consideration. RFK, Jr., if elected president, would be able to draw on the experience of his uncle, John Fitzgerald Kennedy. JFK, according to many in the cult, survived Dealey Plaza and is alive at 106. He's working behind the scenes with his son, JFK Jr (who didn't die in a plane crash) and Donald Trump to save the world from the evil Democrat cabal.
He won't take DNC voters. As someone who votes GOP in primaries but across the aisle in November, he's not getting me, and no one I talk to takes him seriously. Not sure how he sways the undecided voters who are looking for a reason to not for Biden.
Ha. If you occupied my universe, you’d be scared shitless. Me? I take it I stride.
If you don’t have reason to not vote for Biden, you ain’t normal.
Considering the alternatives, the answer is Biden.
RFKJ isn't a viable alternative.
Lol. Very little of what you post is reliable. Not sure why you decided to add that qualifier here.
Probably QAnon republicans if he gets an endorsement from John John.
"A Reuters/Ipsos poll of a hypothetical three-way race between Biden, Trump and Kennedy conducted last week among likely voters found 14% of voters supported Kennedy, with 40% supporting Trump and 38% supporting Biden."
So now the question is where are those 14% in relation to battle ground states? And where will they go once the attack ads blanket the airwaves?
This actually could be the worst of all scenarios--either Trump or Biden will be our next president but this time, without anywhere near a majority of people supporting whoever wins. Another four years of questioning legitimacy, etc.
The only people here that pretend that he's a serious candidate are our Trumpsters. The Trump camp has been talking him up and Trumpsters like his anti-vaxx stance. However, they forget that he's a long-time Democrat from the moonbat wing. The Trump camp is understanding that he's more of a threat to Trump than Biden now if he runs as an independent or Green Party candidate and will soon be attacking him. Watch how quickly our Trumpsters turn on him.
Team Trump readies attacks on RFK Jr. as spoiler anxiety grows | Semafor
An internal poll has Trump allies concerned a third party run might help President Biden.
www.semafor.com
Now we get to find out who is full of shit. Both Republicans and Democrats have a chance to say f#ck you to their respective parties. Come join me
RFKJ said something in an interview on the all-in podcast that won my vote.The only people here that pretend that he's a serious candidate are our Trumpsters. The Trump camp has been talking him up and Trumpsters like his anti-vaxx stance. However, they forget that he's a long-time Democrat from the moonbat wing. The Trump camp is understanding that he's more of a threat to Trump than Biden now if he runs as an independent or Green Party candidate and will soon be attacking him. Watch how quickly our Trumpsters turn on him.
Team Trump readies attacks on RFK Jr. as spoiler anxiety grows | Semafor
An internal poll has Trump allies concerned a third party run might help President Biden.
“That is an issue I need to look into more, I don’t think I’m fully informed”
I’ve never heard a politician admit ignorance. That kind of humility makes him preferable to all the Morons who pretend like they know everything, which is every idiot from the Republican and Democratic Party.
I voted third party in 2016 (Johnson) and I'll do it again in 2024 if Trump and Biden are the nominees, but it won't be for RFKjr.
Now we get to find out who is full of shit. Both Republicans and Democrats have a chance to say f#ck you to their respective parties. Come join me
So what issue do you think he is "fully informed" on ?
The Kennedy family came out with the statement last night that basically said that RFK Jr was a complete imbecile.
"If Trump is the nominee, RFK will pull votes from Biden"
Maybe. But I just saw where QAnon is worried that he'll take votes from JFK Jr
So this is confusing to me. Are you saying that if Trump is not the nominee all the potential voters you feel Biden would lose to RFK Jr in a 3 way race with Trump, would vote for Biden if someone other than Trump is the nominee? Because I feel it's actually the reverse, a 3 party race would hurt Biden if Trump was not the GOP nominee and people didn't have Trump to vote against.
I'm not sure anti-vaxxers are flocking to vote for Biden And I'm not sure a lot of potential Biden voters would be drawn to someone that is anti-vax. I've seen the claims from some on this board that Jr is not anti-vax, because they heard him say it and obviously he would never lie about that.
He's being victimized by a mischaracterization of his true position. It's not anything to do with dialing down his public comments because he's running for POTUS and wants the votes of people who do support vaccines...
I'd say blaming the multitude of deaths from the Spanish Flu pandemic on "vaccine testing" is a pretty anti-vax position to stake out.
He's also the Chairman (and I believe co-founder) of the Children's Health Defense. The non profit has a benign title, but it's definitely anti-vax.
And it's not just the Covid vax that they oppose. There's an article on the site currently "exposing" the link between the polio vaccine and increased cancer, though the organization made sure to include a disclaimer that it's solely the opinion of the authors...
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If DeSantis is the nominee, RFK will pull votes from him"If Trump is the nominee, RFK will pull votes from Biden"
Maybe. But I just saw where QAnon is worried that he'll take votes from JFK Jr
So this is confusing to me. Are you saying that if Trump is not the nominee all the potential voters you feel Biden would lose to RFK Jr in a 3 way race with Trump, would vote for Biden if someone other than Trump is the nominee? Because I feel it's actually the reverse, a 3 party race would hurt Biden if Trump was not the GOP nominee and people didn't have Trump to vote against.
I'm not sure anti-vaxxers are flocking to vote for Biden And I'm not sure a lot of potential Biden voters would be drawn to someone that is anti-vax. I've seen the claims from some on this board that Jr is not anti-vax, because they heard him say it and obviously he would never lie about that.
He's being victimized by a mischaracterization of his true position. It's not anything to do with dialing down his public comments because he's running for POTUS and wants the votes of people who do support vaccines...
I'd say blaming the multitude of deaths from the Spanish Flu pandemic on "vaccine testing" is a pretty anti-vax position to stake out.
He's also the Chairman (and I believe co-founder) of the Children's Health Defense. The non profit has a benign title, but it's definitely anti-vax.
And it's not just the Covid vax that they oppose. There's an article on the site currently "exposing" the link between the polio vaccine and increased cancer, though the organization made sure to include a disclaimer that it's solely the opinion of the authors...
The Defender
The Defender is Children’s Health Defense’s news and views website. It features content aligned with its mission to end childhood health epidemics.
