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The Kennedy Conundrum

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Sounds like Bobby Jr. is gearing up for a potential third party run. How successful is he likely to be in a match where the other two guys representing the 2 major parties aren't super popular?
 

Sounds like Bobby Jr. is gearing up for a potential third party run. How successful is he likely to be in a match where the other two guys representing the 2 major parties aren't super popular?
Modern day journalism is nothing but ignorant puppets repeating lies and nonsense. There are numerous videos of RFK jr giving his opinion on vaccines. He’s not anti-vaccine. Putting that stupidity aside, if my choices are Trump, Biden, and RFK, he’s getting my vote.
 

Sounds like Bobby Jr. is gearing up for a potential third party run. How successful is he likely to be in a match where the other two guys representing the 2 major parties aren't super popular?
Which side will he take votes from
 
It would be interesting. Assuming a Trump/ Biden contest he probably has my vote. There’s a chance of the “No labels” guys being on the ballot as well. Something like Hogan/ Manchin. Also interesting.

In the end. The people in the Republican Party that support RFK are mostly Trump supporters so I’m not sure he draws a ton of Republican votes away. But he is polling at 20% among Democrats, which would be crisis time for Joe.
 
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It would be interesting. Assuming a Trump/ Biden contest he probably has my vote. There’s a chance of the “No labels” guys being on the ballot as well. Something like Hogan/ Manchin. Also interesting.

In the end. The people in the Republican Party that support RFK are mostly Trump supporters so I’m not sure he draws a ton of Republican votes away. But he is polling at 20% among Democrats, which would be crisis time for Joe.
Anyone but Joe at this point
 
It would be interesting. Assuming a Trump/ Biden contest he probably has my vote. There’s a chance of the “No labels” guys being on the ballot as well. Something like Hogan/ Manchin. Also interesting.

In the end. The people in the Republican Party that support RFK are mostly Trump supporters so I’m not sure he draws a ton of Republican votes away. But he is polling at 20% among Democrats, which would be crisis time for Joe.
Love the handle. Let’s gogogogo
 
Anyone but Joe at this point
I’m not enthralled with Biden, but there is no way I’d vote for Trump. If my only choice were to vote for Trump or leave the country, I’d start looking into moving to Ireland,
 
I think he will run for awhile to get attention and get his voice out there, and maybe take part in debates, if they have them. I bet he will drop out before voting starts. I don’t think he wants to become a pariah within his entire family and party.
 
Modern day journalism is nothing but ignorant puppets repeating lies and nonsense. There are numerous videos of RFK jr giving his opinion on vaccines. He’s not anti-vaccine. Putting that stupidity aside, if my choices are Trump, Biden, and RFK, he’s getting my vote.
NBC News senior reporter Brandy Zadrozny noted Thursday that when Kennedy was asked on the “Health Freedom for Humanity” podcast in 2021 how parents should respond to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention schedule of immunizations for children, which his questioner described as “insane,” he responded by encouraging people to join him in telling strangers not to vaccinate their babies.​

“For many, many years, I think parents were so gaslighted, and they were scapegoated, and they were vilified and marginalized, so that even parents of kids who were very, very badly injured, knew what happened to their kid, but they were just reluctant to talk about it. And I think now those days are over,” Kennedy said.​

“We – our job is to resist and to talk about it to everybody. If you’re walking down the street – and I do this now myself, which is, you know, I don’t want to do – I’m not a busybody. I see somebody on a hiking trail carrying a little baby and I say to him, ‘Better not get him vaccinated.’ And he heard that from me. If he hears it from 10 other people, maybe he won’t do it, you know, maybe he will save that child.”​

Kennedy repeated later in the podcast: “If you’re one of 10 people that goes up to a guy, a man or a woman, who’s carrying a baby, and says, ‘Don’t vaccinate that baby,’ when they hear that from 10 people, it’ll make an impression on ‘em, you know. And we all kept our mouth shut. Don’t keep your mouth shut anymore. Confront everybody on it.”​

 
I think he will run for awhile to get attention and get his voice out there, and maybe take part in debates, if they have them. I bet he will drop out before voting starts. I don’t think he wants to become a pariah within his entire family and party.
The guy is insane. He’s on tape talking about how Covid was engineered to kill except for Chinese and certain Jews. Even if that rant started with the cop out “some people are saying”, it’s insane to even dignify it by talking about it. The guy is a complete f*****g nut. He should have no problem pulling the conspiracy theorist anti Jew vote.
 
I think he will run for awhile to get attention and get his voice out there, and maybe take part in debates, if they have them. I bet he will drop out before voting starts. I don’t think he wants to become a pariah within his entire family and party.
In most states don't you have to get yourself on the ballot pretty far in advance?

He is in his 70's, I think he might be making a last push. If he doesn't get this it isn't like he doesn't have a family fortune to retire to.
 
I’m not enthralled with Biden, but there is no way I’d vote for Trump. If my only choice were to vote for Trump or leave the country, I’d start looking into moving to Ireland,
Yea!!!
 
NBC News senior reporter Brandy Zadrozny noted Thursday that when Kennedy was asked on the “Health Freedom for Humanity” podcast in 2021 how parents should respond to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention schedule of immunizations for children, which his questioner described as “insane,” he responded by encouraging people to join him in telling strangers not to vaccinate their babies.​

“For many, many years, I think parents were so gaslighted, and they were scapegoated, and they were vilified and marginalized, so that even parents of kids who were very, very badly injured, knew what happened to their kid, but they were just reluctant to talk about it. And I think now those days are over,” Kennedy said.​

“We – our job is to resist and to talk about it to everybody. If you’re walking down the street – and I do this now myself, which is, you know, I don’t want to do – I’m not a busybody. I see somebody on a hiking trail carrying a little baby and I say to him, ‘Better not get him vaccinated.’ And he heard that from me. If he hears it from 10 other people, maybe he won’t do it, you know, maybe he will save that child.”​

Kennedy repeated later in the podcast: “If you’re one of 10 people that goes up to a guy, a man or a woman, who’s carrying a baby, and says, ‘Don’t vaccinate that baby,’ when they hear that from 10 people, it’ll make an impression on ‘em, you know. And we all kept our mouth shut. Don’t keep your mouth shut anymore. Confront everybody on it.”​

Lol…you’re trying to tilt me. Nice touch with quoting another journalist. I’ve watched several interviews of him. He’s never once said he is anti-vaccine. His take is more nuanced. Instead of quoting another dishonest journalist, post an interview of him saying it.
 
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Which side will he take votes from

He will take votes from both sides, but primarily from the right. Firstly, he has cuckoo for cocoa puffs takes that resonate mainly with the right. Also, there is a legion of RINOs that wont vote for trump, but also not for a dem. My prediction then: RFKj will help sink trump, but also help the down ballot votes for the GOP. Were it not for RFKj, these RINOs would stay home on voting day.
 
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Lol…you’re trying to tilt me. Nice touch with quoting another journalist. I’ve watched several interviews of him. He’s never once said he is anti-vaccine. His take is more nuanced. Instead of quoting another dishonest journalist, post an interview of him saying it.
He’s proudly anti vaccine. Long before Covid. He may beat around the bush about it but there’s no doubt what he believes.https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2023/07/21/politics/fact-check-rfk-not-anti-vax/index.html
 
He will take votes from both sides, but primarily from the right. Firstly, he has cuckoo for cocoa puffs takes that resonate mainly with the right. Also, there is a legion of RINOs that wont vote for trump, but also not for a dem. My prediction then: RFKj will help sink trump, but also help the down ballot votes for the GOP. Were it not for RFKj, these RINOs would stay home on voting day.
A lot wrong with that. First, RFKjr is a long-time moonbat Democrat. He was one of the moonbats who claimed GWB won in 2004 due to voter fraud. He’s a long-time anti-vaxxer (those claiming he isn’t are wrong - he has a record). He doesn’t resonate with Republicans except for the Trumpster types who also believe in voter fraud and vaccine conspiracy theories. Second, the RINOs of the Republican Party are the hard core Trumpsters. They care nothing about the Republican party and traditional Republican principles. All they care about is Trump. Anti-Trump Republicans aren’t going to see RFKjr as an acceptable alternative. We may vote third party, but not for him. He may steal some Trumpster RINO votes, so he might hurt Trump that way.
 
. And that’s not his only conspiracy theory. He’s got lots.
 
Conspiracy theory is a term made up by the CIA in the 60's. You can label anything a conspiracy theory. Doesn't make it true.
True. But what would you call his claims that Wi-Fi causes cancer? That bad water causes transgenderism? Or that windmills cause cancer ( not his)
 
He doesn't speak well but he can at least finish.
The Biden campaign and the Democratic National Commetee are taking extraordinary and even unprecedented measures to make sure Joe doesn’t need to campaign against Kennedy. This all comes from the bunch who claims to be saving democracy. They actively repress it. Rigging elections comes natural to them.

 
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The Biden campaign and the Democratic National Commetee are taking extraordinary and even unprecedented measures to make sure Joe doesn’t need to campaign against Kennedy. This all comes the bunch who claims to be saving democracy. They actively repress it. Rigging elections comes natural to them.

It must suck living in a universe as scary as yours.
 
A lot wrong with that. First, RFKjr is a long-time moonbat Democrat. He was one of the moonbats who claimed GWB won in 2004 due to voter fraud. He’s a long-time anti-vaxxer (those claiming he isn’t are wrong - he has a record). He doesn’t resonate with Republicans except for the Trumpster types who also believe in voter fraud and vaccine conspiracy theories. Second, the RINOs of the Republican Party are the hard core Trumpsters. They care nothing about the Republican party and traditional Republican principles. All they care about is Trump. Anti-Trump Republicans aren’t going to see RFKjr as an acceptable alternative. We may vote third party, but not for him. He may steal some Trumpster RINO votes, so he might hurt Trump that way.

If I’m reading this whole thing correctly, RFKj is no longer a Dem as he just declared himself an Independent. At least we know he won’t run w a D next to his name. His platform moving forward is going to be interesting.

I think we have a curious disagreement here. I consider you a RINO. Coming from me, that’s not an insult. I completely understand (and agree) why you see MAGA people as RINOs. They don’t hold much in common in terms of conservative values. They just want trump, and they’re nihilists. You are GOP classic, which to me is a RINO.
 
He’s proudly anti vaccine. Long before Covid. He may beat around the bush about it but there’s no doubt what he believes.https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2023/07/21/politics/fact-check-rfk-not-anti-vax/index.html
So, he’s proudly anti-vaccine, but you can’t find one example of him saying it? By the way he literally says he’s not anti-vaccine.
 
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If I’m reading this whole thing correctly, RFKj is no longer a Dem as he just declared himself an Independent. At least we know he won’t run w a D next to his name. His platform moving forward is going to be interesting.

I think we have a curious disagreement here. I consider you a RINO. Coming from me, that’s not an insult. I completely understand (and agree) why you see MAGA people as RINOs. They don’t hold much in common in terms of conservative values. They just want trump, and they’re nihilists. You are GOP classic, which to me is a RINO.
We might have a civil war occurring in the GOP and I don't want the Trumpster RINOs to win. First, they're only loyal to Trump and second, they have little in common with core Republican principles.
 
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If they're false why don't they just show us the evidence right out of the gate (like the 2020 signatures or the Jan 6 footage) and make the believers (like me) look like fools?
Sorry dude, but you make yourself look like a fool on a routine basis. The belief that Trump's 2020 loss was due to voter fraud has been proven false over and over again (the idea was incredibly stupid to begin with) and what in the world do you believe the JAN 6 footage shows? What it shows is that we had a bunch of incredibly gullible Trumpsters trying to prevent the certification of the election and a peaceful transition of power. You know, like we always have had until Trump.

Also, you link some of the dumbest Trumpster Twitter Twits on the planet. How do you reconcile posting so much demonstrably false crap with your undying devotion to Trump. You should be embarrassed by you unquestioning devotion to Trump alone.
 
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First, RFKjr is a long-time moonbat Democrat.
Very much like Trump he has no affiliation with any political party. He's another opportunistic grifter manipulating low-intelligence whack jobs..

Trump opened the floodgates for scam artists of all types. Like a laser range finder of stupid and gullible. The surprise was how many there were.
 
Very much like Trump he has no affiliation with any political party. He's another opportunistic grifter manipulating low-intelligence whack jobs..

Trump opened the floodgates for scam artists of all types. Like a laser range finder of stupid and gullible. The surprise was how many there were.
He’s not a grifter. He’s a true believer. For better or worse
 
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