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The GOP nominee for Governor in Pennsylvania

Litigate the Bible?? Interesting concept. Just pointing out that not all of us Christians are bad “Bible thumpers”. Adhering to the teachings of Christ makes for a pretty good human being, Christian or not
I don’t disagree with your closing statement at all. I’m pointing out that, in my opinion, anybody who would like to lecture me about Christianity had better know what the hell they’re talking about and the Bible is the foundation of Christianity.
 
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I have no idea what you’re trying to say. Alex Jones has a fringe audience. He’s a nutcase that has preyed on atrocities to bring attention to him. He deserves to be penniless. It doesn’t mean he has anything but a fringe audience.

Let’s whatabout for a minute. How much should BLM, or other organizations that spread false information leading to massive racial discord, violence and damages be on the hook for the $1.5B of damages (which doesn’t include the deaths and civil payouts for those)?
You're misunderstanding my question, Ranger.

What I had gotten from you was that you were saying that the lawsuit financial judgement against him was evidence of his audience being small and on the fringes. And you were saying it in response to a claim that his making $100 million over the last five years was evidence that his audience wasn't small and/or fringe.

I can understand the argument that someone making $20 million a year from their work in media doesn't have a small or fringe audience, so I was trying to understand the rationale of the argument that I understood you to be making.

BLM is an interesting, if substantially imperfect, analogue for Jones. Given the amount of money that BLM has generated, I wouldn't call it fringe or characterize its following as small. I don't think it's a fantastic comparable for Alex Jones though as it's really comparing an organization that has sprung (or some might say co-opted) a larger social movement with the same name to a guy who espouses some philosophies attached to some larger social ideas. Jones hasn't been able to de-personalize his monetization efforts, but I get where you're going with it.
 
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Gab has no 'members'
It is free.
You post lies.
So the "lie" you choose to focus on is that Gab has "members"? And you apply some arbitrary definition to the concept of membership, and claim a free entity can't have members? Yet here we are both posting on a forum in which we are both members. And I guarantee you I don't pay anything...

So you didn't choose to accuse me of lying about Gab being full of right wing anti-Semites, or that Bowers, Mastriano and Torba are all not only anti-Semites, but Christian Nationalists as well? I guess it would be hard for you to argue that I was lying about that, when all 3 have basically proclaimed it on their own...

So other than making up some fantasy that I somehow maintained that Bowers was a member because he paid for a subscription (which of course I never said), what else have I "lied" about? I can't be the only person who read your post and wondered why you didn't accuse me of "lying" when I said Gab was full of anti-Semites and those 3 are prime examples of the fact. Why aren't you claiming that labelling them anti-Semites is a distortion, or outright lie?
 
Well that’s yet to b determined. He just declared bankruptcy prior to the decision. How convenient. Make over $100 M then say you need protection from creditors. Bullet would do it for me. Nothing crueler than what he did and he inspired his followers to harass the grieving parents. Deserves a special place in hell as far as I’m concerned.
This is just the first of 4 penalty phase hearings to assign damages for the charges he's already been convicted of. I believe this is the case originally brought by a single family in which a single other family joined in and they brought suit together.

To the claims that Infowars is a "fringe" organization, this is 2015 and at that time he had a weekly audience of 20 Million or so. And look who he interviewed...

 
No disputing the vileness of 2021 and the damage done. Just pointing out that when elected officials start spouting this crap don’t fool yourself into thinking this won’t spread and do damage to r democracy. That’s exactly what it’s designed to do. And one day u wake up and it’s mainstream. Count me a useful mark and not an ostrich hiding it’s head in the sand.
You did watch Senator Schumer threaten 2 justices on the steps of the capital, right? You do know that an assassin was waiting to kill Kavanuagh? Lefty nuts like Schumer are okay? What about Maxine Waters? Another nutty liberal threatening others who don’t subscribe to her left wing racist craziness.
 
You did watch Senator Schumer threaten 2 justices on the steps of the capital, right? You do know that an assassin was waiting to kill Kavanuagh? Lefty nuts like Schumer are okay? What about Maxine Waters? Another nutty liberal threatening others who don’t subscribe to her left wing racist craziness.
Seriously saying they won’t know what hit them is a threat? Try getting it right in that he was referring to the political consequences of their decision. Don’t think I’ve ever heard Schumer say that Jewish lasers started the California wildfires. But check out this right wing nut. https://nymag.com/intelligencer/art...wildfires-space-laser-rothschild-execute.html
 
You're misunderstanding my question, Ranger.

What I had gotten from you was that you were saying that the lawsuit financial judgement against him was evidence of his audience being small and on the fringes. And you were saying it in response to a claim that his making $100 million over the last five years was evidence that his audience wasn't small and/or fringe.

I can understand the argument that someone making $20 million a year from their work in media doesn't have a small or fringe audience, so I was trying to understand the rationale of the argument that I understood you to be making.

BLM is an interesting, if substantially imperfect, analogue for Jones. Given the amount of money that BLM has generated, I wouldn't call it fringe or characterize its following as small. I don't think it's a fantastic comparable for Alex Jones though as it's really comparing an organization that has sprung (or some might say co-opted) a larger social movement with the same name to a guy who espouses some philosophies attached to some larger social ideas. Jones hasn't been able to de-personalize his monetization efforts, but I get where you're going with it.
I’m saying that I expect the payout he has to make to be proportional (hopefully with a high coefficient) to his actual revenue. His actual revenue being a bit of a proxy for his influence. I don’t think his revenue is very high. I thought I saw something about his company making $165M in 3 years on supplements and prepper nonsense. That’s really not a ton of money per annum. The Church of Scientology is estimated years ago to be $200M per annum. I consider Scientology to be a fringe movement and that dwarfs his revenue.

he’s a famous moron due to his headline-grabbing insanity. That people buy fake vitamins from him doesn’t mean he’s anything more than a fringe voice talking to other whackos.
 
I’m saying that I expect the payout he has to make to be proportional (hopefully with a high coefficient) to his actual revenue. His actual revenue being a bit of a proxy for his influence. I don’t think his revenue is very high. I thought I saw something about his company making $165M in 3 years on supplements and prepper nonsense. That’s really not a ton of money per annum. The Church of Scientology is estimated years ago to be $200M per annum. I consider Scientology to be a fringe movement and that dwarfs his revenue.

he’s a famous moron due to his headline-grabbing insanity. That people buy fake vitamins from him doesn’t mean he’s anything more than a fringe voice talking to other whackos.
I was never good at math but I do believe $55M a year would b considered a ton of money by any standard. Not Bezos or Gates money but still a lot. In 2017 infowars had 10M monthly visits. More than some more mainstream news sites. Some of these fringe sites can inspire like minded nuts to violence like the PA synagogue shooting a few years ago.
 
You did watch Senator Schumer threaten 2 justices on the steps of the capital, right? You do know that an assassin was waiting to kill Kavanuagh? Lefty nuts like Schumer are okay? What about Maxine Waters? Another nutty liberal threatening others who don’t subscribe to her left wing racist craziness.
Please provide examples of Maxine Waters racist quotes. Luckily he was talked out of killing Kavanuagh by his sister. He was also planning on killing two other justices. Unfortunately the 11 worshipers at a synagogue in PA weren’t so lucky. Nor were the worshipers in a South Carolina church. All killed by right wing racists. There r way more examples of the right wing nazi types committing acts of slaughter than left wing nut jobs. Please cite an example of a slaughter committed by a left wing nut. Can’t remember any.
 
I was never good at math but I do believe $55M a year would b considered a ton of money by any standard. Not Bezos or Gates money but still a lot. In 2017 infowars had 10M monthly visits. More than some more mainstream news sites. Some of these fringe sites can inspire like minded nuts to violence like the PA synagogue shooting a few years ago.
We can dance in circles all you’d like but we won’t come to an agreement. I’m not saying I’m right because I don’t have data other than using revenue as a proxy and supplement and prepper supply revenue may be inflating influence because people aren’t necessarily needing to listen to his kooky theories to be driven to the site to buy useless things.

But again, if you can show me data on why I really need to worry about Christian Nationalism more than I should I’d be all ears.
 
Please provide examples of Maxine Waters racist quotes. Luckily he was talked out of killing Kavanuagh by his sister. He was also planning on killing two other justices. Unfortunately the 11 worshipers at a synagogue in PA weren’t so lucky. Nor were the worshipers in a South Carolina church. All killed by right wing racists. There r way more examples of the right wing nazi types committing acts of slaughter than left wing nut jobs. Please cite an example of a slaughter committed by a left wing nut. Can’t remember any.
What is a woman?
What is a recession?
What is right wing?
What is left wing?
 
We can dance in circles all you’d like but we won’t come to an agreement. I’m not saying I’m right because I don’t have data other than using revenue as a proxy and supplement and prepper supply revenue may be inflating influence because people aren’t necessarily needing to listen to his kooky theories to be driven to the site to buy useless things.

But again, if you can show me data on why I really need to worry about Christian Nationalism more than I should I’d be all ears.
Just saying we need to b aware and on guard I can’t give u stats but I would venture we will hear more and more about them. They spout taking r country back by any means because God is on their side. Not looking for an argument. Already plenty of that to go around here. Lol.
 
Just saying we need to b aware and on guard I can’t give u stats but I would venture we will hear more and more about them. They spout taking r country back by any means because God is on their side. Not looking for an argument. Already plenty of that to go around here. Lol.
You're new here, right? There's nothing wrong with that if so . . . we all have to start somewhere.

My sense of Ranger is that he's not one of the "God is on our side" crowd. He might agree with the general tenor of their positions on specific policy issues, but he's not a bible-pounding guy.
 
You're new here, right? There's nothing wrong with that if so . . . we all have to start somewhere.

My sense of Ranger is that he's not one of the "God is on our side" crowd. He might agree with the general tenor of their positions on specific policy issues, but he's not a bible-pounding guy.
I don’t think any of that crowd is on this forum.
 
Just saying we need to b aware and on guard I can’t give u stats but I would venture we will hear more and more about them. They spout taking r country back by any means because God is on their side. Not looking for an argument. Already plenty of that to go around here. Lol.
You could be totally right. But I think the talk of them disappears with the conclusion of the midterms. At this point I don’t believe that the media will stay above any bar to help the democrats win.
 
False premise.
Please post a link or reference to 'all' of the FF being Christian...

The White Nationalists are establishing a parallel society and economy.

White Nationalists use free will and refuse to become assimilated.

The growth and appeal of the WN is impressive.
I assume WN means white nationalists?

Because the post was about Christian Nationalists. So that’s an uncomfortable Freudian slip.
 
I assume WN means white nationalists?

Because the post was about Christian Nationalists. So that’s an uncomfortable Freudian slip.

That's his whole point. The Founders may not have been all Christian, but they were all white. Hence White Nationalist instead of Christian Nationalist.
 
False premise.
Please post a link or reference to 'all' of the FF being Christian...

The White Nationalists are establishing a parallel society and economy.

White Nationalists use free will and refuse to become assimilated.

The growth and appeal of the WN is impressive.
Go back and read the article attached in a previous post. The gut on Gab is a WN and so a called Christian. Marjorie Taylor Green is a Christian and proclaimed herself a white nationalist. Guarantee that the proud boys and one percenters and other like groups would say the r white nationalists and use biblical references in their propaganda.
 
You could be totally right. But I think the talk of them disappears with the conclusion of the midterms. At this point I don’t believe that the media will stay above any bar to help the democrats win.
I hope your right but this country is so polarized and divided that these types of groups can slither their way into the consciousness of those who has a deep feeling of white grievance. We c and hear that here in r area of Florida pretty regularly.
 
In a second Trump administration, so many from the first would be in jail that the My Pillow guy would be named Secretary of State. Sydney Powell, if she gets off, would head DOJ. Kanye, press Secretary.
So you're saying that would be an upgrade from the current staff ?
 
Just continue to censor my posts and block my participation on topics...

You'll feel much safer at night knowing that damned Mas-sa-suta can't express concerning views on your board.

I have not deleted or blocked a single post from you. Nice try.
 
"My policy is not to conduct interviews with reporters who aren't Christian or with outlets who aren't Christian and Doug has a very similar media strategy where he does not do interviews with these people. He does not talk to these people. He does not give press access to these people," said the Gab founder. "These people are dishonest. They're liars. They're a den of vipers and they want to destroy you. My typical conversation with them when they email me is 'repent and accept Jesus Christ as your lord and savior.' I take it as an opportunity to try and convert them."

https://www.jpost.com/american-politics/article-713128

If there was a silver lining, hopefully this guy loses bigly. Even Fox has him 10 pts behind.

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Couple that with the GOP's horrendous Senate nominee and PA is headed the other way

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You have to admit, it's quite pathetic for the GOP, who could have easily run away with this if there weren't two terrible candidates that Trump pushed to the top of the primaries.
 
I guess they figure it's not needed since they got the extended warranty :)
They think they don't need to, because their pastor will tell them who to vote for ...


and who to hate ...


and who to pay taxes to (or not):

 
If there was a silver lining, hopefully this guy loses bigly. Even Fox has him 10 pts behind.

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Couple that with the GOP's horrendous Senate nominee and PA is headed the other way

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You have to admit, it's quite pathetic for the GOP, who could have easily run away with this if there weren't two terrible candidates that Trump pushed to the top of the primaries.
I have no idea what you’re trying to say. Alex Jones has a fringe audience. He’s a nutcase that has preyed on atrocities to bring attention to him. He deserves to be penniless. It doesn’t mean he has anything but a fringe audience.

Let’s whatabout for a minute. How much should BLM, or other organizations that spread false information leading to massive racial discord, violence and damages be on the hook for the $1.5B of damages (which doesn’t include the deaths and civil payouts for those)?
Bankruptcy won't necessarily make Alex Jones penniless.

Justice and karma would assign a relentless someone like Fred Goldman to chase Jones and his hidden money.

 
False premise.
Please post a link or reference to 'all' of the FF being Christian...

The White Nationalists are establishing a parallel society and economy.

White Nationalists use free will and refuse to become assimilated.

The growth and appeal of the WN is impressive.

Der Fuhrur hat gesprochen.
 
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They think they don't need to, because their pastor will tell them who to vote for ...


and who to hate ...


and who to pay taxes to (or not):

"they"

Broad insults = narrow minded insulter

If this joint had a good moderator, your post would be removed being a crappy post.
 
"they"

Broad insults = narrow minded insulter

If this joint had a good moderator, your post would be removed being a crappy post.
That was a silly post you filed.

Given the severe fevers and stress caused by the Covid you told us you are suffering, it's obvious you're not thinking straight.

Any sensible mod would put you in quarantine for two weeks until you recover to your old standard of whatever it was.
 
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