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The DOGE Clown Show

True. They can probably cut much more of the workforce when they take time to do it more systematically, or some entire departments.

Right before judges undo it all or the democrats build it all back and then some. I guess he’s treating it like a swamp because he sold it as a swamp. A great opposition mantra, but a shitty leading mantra. You guys with your cool Don’t Tread On Me stickers gotta wake up and realize there’s actually a middle path here. A nation of 340 million people with worldwide economic and security primacy, superior technology, and awesome capital generation ability can certainly do better than bloated government and then this. You guys should expect more.
 
Folks voted for cuts not chaos, lies, defying court orders, lack of transparency, cutting vital operations, leaderless DOGE, walking back layoffs because they were dumb or illegal, revenge tour BS…
lol...chaos. Get off of social media. Nothing has changed besides IU hiring another basketball coach who will probably end up getting fired in 4 years.
 
lol...chaos. Get off of social media. Nothing has changed besides IU hiring another basketball coach who will probably end up getting fired in 4 years.

You don’t think this qualifies at chaos? If not, I would like to party with you.

A buddy was just giving me shit about our coaching candidates. I replied:

We’ll be confused at first, then in love after he gets us to a play-in game in year 2. By year 4 we’ll hate him after being pre-season top 15 but missing the tourney.

Love hurts.


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The “chaos” is felt by those losing their jobs. Or those leftists who pay too much attention politics and are chronically irate.

The average person doesn’t feel said chaos. Certainly not the average Trump voter.

They don’t care if DOGE may have violated some statute or some activist judge is jamming Trump up with injunctions and forced rehires. Nor do they care if Elon is the definitive head of DOGE or the de facto head.


You people amaze me.

Inflation: plumetting

Border: locked up the tightest it’s been in 50 years

Ukraine: all signs point to imminent ceasefire

The guy has damn near delivered on his three biggest campaign promises in two months and all you can muster up is some histrionics about government employees.

You’re not serious people.
On the behalf of those being illegally fired in this chaos - **** YOU! You little shit.
 
Musk and his wunderkinds emailed a critical database unencrypted. But we can't question them, Musk picked them so they must be perfect.

Hint for anyone who does not know, do NOT send passwords, social security numbers, credit card numbers, etc, via unencrypted email.

 
True. They can probably cut much more of the workforce when they take time to do it more systematically, or some entire departments.
I've linked at least three times how they did it the right way in the late 90s. Wasn't chaotic and it was effective in decreasing the workforce. I'm all for the smallest government necessary to provide efficient services. This isn't the way to do it.
 
A nation of 340 million people with worldwide economic and security primacy, superior technology, and awesome capital generation ability can certainly do better than bloated government and then this. You guys should expect more.

Agree.
Our system is still quite primitive, antiquated especially in comparison to some of our other advancements.

We should have far better expectations.


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More "ready, shoot, aim".

 
More on Social Security. TL;DR version. They are closing walk-in offices, yet reducing what people can do over the phone. So if one isn't particularly tech savvy, and I have helped a lot of elderly with tech issues and know many struggle, real pain will be experienced.

Everything below is from this website:


Social Security has long been the third rail of American politics. Anyone who touches it is instantly electrocuted. Back when Elon Musk was a private citizen and not an unconfirmed government official of sorts, he called Social Security "the biggest Ponzi scheme of all time." Now he wants to destroy it and now has a co-conspirator in Donald Trump. Acting SS Commissioner Leland Dudek is carrying out the orders.

A straightforward bill in Congress to abolish SS would fail spectacularly, so the administration's strategy is to kill it by a thousand cuts rather than one axe blow. The first step has already taken place. Many SS offices have been closed, making it much harder for people to get to one, since it may be far away. Some of the hardest hit places are in Arkansas, Florida, Kentucky, Louisiana, North Carolina, and Texas.

The second step goes into effect March 31. In the past, people could call up the SSA, verify themselves by answering some questions, and then sign up, change their address, marital status, or preferred method for receiving payments on the phone. Per March 31, that will be all gone. People with access to a computer and knowledge of how to do things online will be able to verify their identity online. Anyone not able to do so will have to come to a SSA office in person.

For many elderly Americans, getting to a SSA office may not be easy. Social Security provides not only for payments to seniors, but also to younger people who have a disability that prevents them from working. For some of these people, getting to a SSA office may be close to impossible. In particular, people in rural areas who live far from a SSA office and who have limited Internet access (often called "Trump voters") may be unable to arrange for and manage payments to which they are by law entitled. But making it difficult for these Trump voters to get what is rightfully theirs will help cut federal spending and reduce the budget deficit. What patriots!

It is expected that about 80,000 people per week, or over 4 million per year, will be diverted to field offices, all of which have lost staff due to cuts imposed by Musk, as well as buyouts, resignations, and retirements. This means that they will be crowded, as fewer people can be handled per hour and waits for service will be longer than in the past.

Voters who have heard about the changes are flooding the town halls of politicians and demanding that their representatives do something about them. Unions have sued. Democratic politicians have noticed. Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand (D-NY) tweeted "Make no mistake, this is a full-blown attack on Social Security. Elon Musk is trying to take away benefits you earned." (V
 
More on Social Security. TL;DR version. They are closing walk-in offices, yet reducing what people can do over the phone. So if one isn't particularly tech savvy, and I have helped a lot of elderly with tech issues and know many struggle, real pain will be experienced.

Everything below is from this website:


Social Security has long been the third rail of American politics. Anyone who touches it is instantly electrocuted. Back when Elon Musk was a private citizen and not an unconfirmed government official of sorts, he called Social Security "the biggest Ponzi scheme of all time." Now he wants to destroy it and now has a co-conspirator in Donald Trump. Acting SS Commissioner Leland Dudek is carrying out the orders.

A straightforward bill in Congress to abolish SS would fail spectacularly, so the administration's strategy is to kill it by a thousand cuts rather than one axe blow. The first step has already taken place. Many SS offices have been closed, making it much harder for people to get to one, since it may be far away. Some of the hardest hit places are in Arkansas, Florida, Kentucky, Louisiana, North Carolina, and Texas.

The second step goes into effect March 31. In the past, people could call up the SSA, verify themselves by answering some questions, and then sign up, change their address, marital status, or preferred method for receiving payments on the phone. Per March 31, that will be all gone. People with access to a computer and knowledge of how to do things online will be able to verify their identity online. Anyone not able to do so will have to come to a SSA office in person.

For many elderly Americans, getting to a SSA office may not be easy. Social Security provides not only for payments to seniors, but also to younger people who have a disability that prevents them from working. For some of these people, getting to a SSA office may be close to impossible. In particular, people in rural areas who live far from a SSA office and who have limited Internet access (often called "Trump voters") may be unable to arrange for and manage payments to which they are by law entitled. But making it difficult for these Trump voters to get what is rightfully theirs will help cut federal spending and reduce the budget deficit. What patriots!

It is expected that about 80,000 people per week, or over 4 million per year, will be diverted to field offices, all of which have lost staff due to cuts imposed by Musk, as well as buyouts, resignations, and retirements. This means that they will be crowded, as fewer people can be handled per hour and waits for service will be longer than in the past.

Voters who have heard about the changes are flooding the town halls of politicians and demanding that their representatives do something about them. Unions have sued. Democratic politicians have noticed. Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand (D-NY) tweeted "Make no mistake, this is a full-blown attack on Social Security. Elon Musk is trying to take away benefits you earned." (V
Ss needs reform. The offices are impt for non tech people and frankly can’t be that expensive to maintain. I know of 4 in our metro of 3 million. All in relatively cheap rent districts. The disability process is an inefficient mess. The lawyer’s fee is literally baked into the delay and inefficiency.

This has been a fascinating experiment. It seems to shed light on another inherent systemic fault. The inertia of the bureaucracy doesn’t align with the timetable for politics. There isn’t enough time to fix things bc of the vagaries of elections (Dems back in no time) (or pubs) so any attempts have to be radical and at breakneck speed. So we lift all border laws and climate obstacles and give out as much free cheese as possible in the first 100 days before dad gets home. We ignore employment protections circumvent congress and tear down as much as possible to see what sticks before mom gets home.

Our system is a blessing and a curse. But I think the election calendar again doesn’t jive with fundamental changes
 
Ss needs reform. The offices are impt for non tech people and frankly can’t be that expensive to maintain. I know of 4 in our metro of 3 million. All in relatively cheap rent districts. The disability process is an inefficient mess. The lawyer’s fee is literally baked into the delay and inefficiency.

This has been a fascinating experiment. It seems to shed light on another inherent systemic fault. The inertia of the bureaucracy doesn’t align with the timetable for politics. There isn’t enough time to fix things bc of the vagaries of elections (Dems back in no time) (or pubs) so any attempts have to be radical and at breakneck speed. So we lift all border laws and climate obstacles and give out as much free cheese as possible in the first 100 days before dad gets home. We ignore employment protections circumvent congress and tear down as much as possible to see what sticks before mom gets home.

Our system is a blessing and a curse. But I think the election calendar again doesn’t jive with fundamental changes

Fundamental change is supposed to be hard, slow and take widespread consensus. That's a feature of our system, intentionally, not a bug.

Neither party / leadership has been interested in attempting the real work.
 
Fundamental change is supposed to be hard, slow and take widespread consensus. That's a feature of our system, intentionally, not a bug.

Neither party / leadership has been interested in attempting the real work.
I think it’s becoming a bug. We have 35 trillion in debt and 35 million in poverty. You have a failing concern and baked in obstacles for meaningful reform that limit same and largely insulate the status quo
 
I think it’s becoming a bug. We have 35 trillion in debt and 35 million in poverty. You have a failing concern and baked in obstacles for meaningful reform that limit same and largely insulate the status quo

That's a result of terrible leadership. Not the system. Keep electing asshats and you get shit outcomes.
 
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That's a result of terrible leadership. Not the system. Keep electing asshats and you get shit outcomes.
In part. But I also think the election cycle doesn’t allow enough time to see the benefits/ failures of certain reforms/initiatives. So we keep kicking the can
 
In part. But I also think the election cycle doesn’t allow enough time to see the benefits/ failures of certain reforms/initiatives. So we keep kicking the can

I don't know about that. 90+% of incumbents win reelection. So not like the people running things really change.

Root issue, if you're talking about the House is heavily gerrymandered districts that only amplify extreme voices. That could be overcome by steady leadership from the Senate and White House. But that's now a joke
 
I don't know about that. 90+% of incumbents win reelection. So not like the people running things really change.

Root issue, if you're talking about the House is heavily gerrymandered districts that only amplify extreme voices. That could be overcome by steady leadership from the Senate and White House. But that's now a joke
That has been a joke. It’s not just now. What we have now is hamfisted as fck but a long overdue questioning of what we do and how we do it. Certainly would have been a better approach to adopt Clinton’s ways but as you throw your fits remember Harris was the alternative. Gave us a 40 year cost spike that won’t subside and open borders that would have been impossible to deal with, much less the defund bail project climate Covid bs. Imagine but for manchin and losing the house. 8 years of those politics. I’ll take trump over that crap any day of the week. This has been madness but the border is fixed and we’re finally questioning things that need questioning without the insidious woke garbage that destroys cities and communities.

There’s a reason trump and maga won everything
 
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DOGE is stoking the desired outrage about specific agencies that Trump and MAGA hate without going after huge pieces of the federal budget - - like defense spending and programs that have bipartisan support like Social Security and Medicare - - that would actually make a meaningful difference in the deficit.

The net result will be symbolic culture war savings and whatever Musk decides to do with PII and other sensitive information/documentation he's become privy to.
Isn’t it amazing that a guy who has tens of billions in government contracts is accessing the agencies that disperse those dollars to his companies as well as his competitors. No conflict there.
 
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Isn’t it amazing that a guy who has tens of billions in government contracts is accessing the agencies that disperse those dollars to his companies as well as his competitors. No conflict there.
Yeah info that is beyond foia. He should not have unfettered access. Chinese walls….
 
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That has been a joke. It’s not just now. What we have now is hamfisted as fck but a long overdue questioning of what we do and how we do it. Certainly would have been a better approach to adopt Clinton’s ways but as you throw your fits remember Harris was the alternative. Gave us a 40 year cost spike that won’t subside and open borders that would have been impossible to deal with, much less the defund bail project climate Covid bs. Imagine but for manchin and losing the house. 8 years of those politics. I’ll take trump over that crap any day of the week. This has been madness but the border is fixed and we’re finally questioning things that need questioning without the insidious woke garbage that destroys cities and communities.

There’s a reason trump and maga won everything
The alternative to Trump was more government/cheese, open borders, and trans/DEI bullshit. Oh and endless wars, which is something Democrats now support. One of the few things they use to be correct on.
 
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The alternative to Trump was more government/cheese, open borders, and trans/DEI bullshit. Oh and endless wars, which is something Democrats now support. One of the few things they use to be correct on.
I think people forget why pubs have ctrl. We’re always teaching aint we
 
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I think people forget why pubs have ctrl. We’re always teaching aint we


During Trump's 1st term it took shit libs almost 4 years before they started looting and burning down buildings during the BLM riots. This time it took less than 4 months. It's a cult.
 
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