The DOGE Clown Show

[mcmurtry66]

Clearly depends on the job. There are tons of hard jobs in the federal government. Of course, I mostly dealt with hard charging A type personality people.

I don’t think most people think of the military side. More hhs ssa on and on. I’m tired of these hours and the grind. Be nice to land an alj gig …..

 

[GooglyMooglyWooglyBoogly]

You annoy me because you're ignorant about many things yet have strong opinions on those things.

I'd bet you were a poor and annoying employee.

Your last two sentences don't make any sense, and I'm not interested in hearing what you meant to say.

I’ve broken you.

To the point where shouting “You’re ignorant!” is all you can muster.

You are a defeated man.

 

[Aloha Hoosier]

I’ve broken you.

To the point where shouting “You’re ignorant!” is all you can muster.

You are a defeated man.

LOL! No, you still have no accomplishments.

 

[Marvin the Martian]

I have worked for a city, the state, feds, IU, small business, big business, and a hybrid (government employee in a facility required to make a profit).

The biggest single difference I know is government employees are expected to follow the rules the most, followed by corps, lastly small business. If you are a government employee my experience was they demand you take your breaks/lunch. You are not to work OT, especially not "off the clock". In small business it was expected during rush one would pitch in. Corps and government tend not to replace people because a nephew needs a job.

Though I know many in the corporate world that were let go about age 60. "We are going in a different direction". I have not seen that happen in government.

I have a buddy who is a hard worker but not the fastest. Working F500, he put in a crap ton of hours to keep up. He now works for a government agency and has been warned that his job is 40 hours and they do not want him working extra off the clock.

I think that, "we are in the weeds but I am going on break" leads to some of the "government employees are lazy" trope. But things like that are the law, if the government doesn't follow it how could they require everyone else?

 

[hoot1]

Sorry buddy, that doesn't float when you are talking to me. I have complained about H1Bs. I argued against the whole "learn to code" idea. I have spoken out against offshoring of jobs.

And here is going to be what really sticks in your craw. Maybe your issue isn't with labor, maybe your issue is with management. "Hey, I get ****ed in the ass by a bunch of sociopathic assholes who always have a golden parachute and land on their feet and so I want to make sure everyone else gets that same treatment." You getting laid off and those tech workers being out of a job isn't government workers faults, it is the fault of poor management and sociopaths like Elon Musk who get off on abusing their work force. Government workers didn't send manufacturing to Mexico and China, the Chamber of Commerce did. Government workers didn't lay off capable tech employees and turn around and hire H1Bs to steal their job, guys like Elon did.

Indiana just took away the rules on the types of hours teenagers can work. It was sold as freedom. Get out of your ideology a little bit and you start to see that maybe the pendulum is a little out of whack. "Government workers get the courtesy of some notification before they get fired, what entitled assholes." Maybe you should be asking why when things go bad you get laid off and your CEO gets a bonus. That gets people out of their comfort zone though.

And for Democrats, there are absolutely people working in government who should be let go. Their protections are too far but I find it interesting when the criticism is "They work 40 hours and get to go home and have a good health plan and a pension" and the move is to take that away instead of demand that for yourself from private employers. The bar is so ****ing low for them and if you want to be "MAGA" Well corporate America was expected to shoulder some of that load in the 1950's and 60's. Which is the dirty secret that many conservatives don't want to deal with. That and a Democrat already laid out how to balance the budget and it sure as shit didn't involve lowering taxes on the top tax brackets and dropping taxes to zero on people making less than $150k.

You are miserable about what was done to you and you took the side of your abuser.

This ain't getting fixed until both sides realize that there is give and take on this and more pragmatism is going to be essential.

Firing federal employees in what has been called eliminating fraud, waste, and abuse is bound to receive favorable public support from the body politic.

The question in my mind, however, is how much does the general public really know about these employees whom we call bureaucrats.

Many of us assume they are liberal Democrats living mostly in Washington D.C. who come to work each day to make sure the policies to make America great again by a Republican president are not executed.

For starters, it has been estimated most of the federal workers (62%) are Democrats but less than 20% live in D.C. Thus, they aren't all liberals living in D,C,

Furthermore, the total federal payroll is only 5% of the federal budget, so there isn't much to be gained in lowering costs by firing employees. Also some of the employees who are being targeted for firing have jobs which include eliminating waste, fraud, and abuse.

Finally, the three departments which make up a large percentage of the employees (71%) are involved in defense and national security. Departments which a majority in both patties consider important.