That sort of makes sense with the timing of Woodson's "retirement" announcement. Dolson wanted to make a change this spring, has had that deal pretty much buttoned up, and wanted to cut off the possiblilty of a late-season run giving Woodson an argument for another year.
So, who will it be?
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Zeke has no problem lobbing all sorts of unproven accusations. The ends justify the means, in her eyes. Never once acknowledged that self-defense was even a possibility, despite the woman saying so.So now it’s plural? Where’s the info that he “beat” even one woman?
Beard speaks at Ole Miss, skips arrest questions
Ole Miss on Tuesday introduced the Rebels' new men's basketball coach Chris Beard, who repeatedly declined to discuss specifics regarding his December domestic violence arrest that led to his eventual firing as coach of the Texas Longhorns.www.espn.com
true. i have high cap 17 rnd mags and can probably pull off 10 rounds in under 3 seconds. But that might just piss him off.
anything larger and the recoil might knock me out of my kayak.
Assuming it's not legal to go gator plinking, even in self defense...even in FL.....I'll have to read up on the rules.
But if my life is on the line, I'd rather deal with a CPO than a gator. But just barely.
yeah I noticed that yrs ago...salt water fish have 2X the muscle.
I went on a charter deal with my boss a few yrs back around the islands /backwaters near St Pete, and had a 30" snook on....felt like a 30 lbs fish, the force it applied was. startling. Screaming drag, I did all I could just to hold on.
Domestic violence, understandably, hits people differently. Doesn't matter why or how, it just does. Its one of the reasons why I'll be surprised if he's the choice. Of any "issue" someone could have, that's one of the most difficult ones for all parties involved to move past.
The other main reason, that's tied to the initial one I mentioned, is it cuts Beard's margin for errors and mistakes down to basically nothing. He'd be starting his tenure at IU, basically, with a zero tolerance policy hanging over him. So...while a coach with a "clean" slate can absorb certain controversies, issues, transgressions, and move past them. Beard will never be able to do that.
For me, its MUCH less about the morality questions...but that's just me, DV hasn't been a big part of my personal story. But I do still have PTSD from the Sampson dumpster fire. And of all the coaches being opined about, Beard has the highest likelihood of burning the house down again. I'm wary of that.
From what I understand, you can hunt alligators at designated times but not with firearms.
Just think, as concerned as you are, how concerned Scott Dolson would be, since his job would be on the line. All I've ever said is if you bow to the pressure and rule him out without doing background checks on him, you're not doing your job. But, if he hires him, I'm confident he'll have done the necessary vetting and talked with Beard to be sure he's convinced there would be nothing similar that would derail him. If he does that, I don't think you have any more to worry about with CB than anyone else. I've also always said, don't hone in on one candidate and talk to several so if he also does that and determines Otz or McCasland or whoever is a better candidate, I'm happy for that.
Not a hunter. Just want to legally protect myself if worst case scenario ever happened Seen too many monster movies.
I believe us Hoosiers need to come to terms with the fact that this is now a business. Back in the 80's, 90's and, even 00's it was still collegiate athletics. If we want a good product on the court, then beard is the answer. He has proven at 3 power 4 conference teams he can do a fantastic job. This is an absolute no brainer. It's a home run hire right in front of us.
I agree I think he'd do well here. It's that pesky baggage that keeps getting in the way.
Beard is a winner who would do well at IU ... and, imo, he'd be a good coaching fit. I don't think anyone can argue otherwise. However, even if the DV incident never occurred, maybe Dolson has someone better in mind (or already in the bag). Again, CB is a solid coach, but so are others; it's not like he's the only one high up on the coaching ladder.
What you haven't acknowledged yet...
Assume it goes how you said...he vetted...Whitten was involved, and gave a thumbs up... they're both confident the incident wasn't as it was originally portrayed, he's not likely to do it again, etc... So they hire him.
He comes to IU, has success, wins big for a few years. Then he's out at a restaurant in Indy, maybe in the offseason even...and some drunk husband and wife bring up the DV issue, gets in his face, harasses Beard and the people with him. Beard sticks up for himself, gets in to a fight with the guy, police are called, etc...
My contention is Beard could easily get "cancelled", and IU would be forced to fire him, in that situation. Where as...if they hired McCasland, McCollum, May, Drew, Otz... that incident probably just goes away. And well, actually is much less likely to ever happen in the first place.
So he's fired, we lose 3/4 of our players, we're not planning for a coaching search, we have to name one of his assistants...Deja Frickin Vu...
Is he worth that risk?
If Dolson does all the leg work, comes to the conclusion that he's the guy...I'll cheer like crazy for him. Both personally and professionally. But again...I'm wary about hiring him because of the increased potential for how it could end.
Iowa State HC T. J. Otzelberger would seem to be an outstanding choice to pursue…say $4m+, 7yrs…doesn’t seem to have any off court issues, could be a long term coach, Google him, he wins.
Can't go bargain hunting so, you're not paying him less than Woodson was earning when you know he's way better and has the results to prove it. I think it would take 6mil/6yrs to get TJO, minimum, and I think he'd be very interested at that range.
nope. not big on close encounters.
Hell I've been on golf courses in SW FL that had gators so big, sitting on the edge of a fairway, that made me wish I was carrying. Any ball that gets within 30 feet is a free drop on the other side of the fairway. No penalty stroke. No grief, no questions asked.
You're thinking way to hard about this. You and I are just never going to agree on what's right regarding Beard. No, in the scenario you said, I don't think you'd have to worry if someone else was drunk and were to bring it up in a restaurant and get in Beard's face (keep in mind I've said I'd not hire Beard if he's still drinking, and that played a role in the DV night w his GF). But I do agree that there are a bunch of fans who will never forgive or accept Beard, so I accepted awhile ago it wouldn't be him and dropped him, until Kurt's post said it was Beard. I do now hope it is Beard, because as I've said, I'm confident Dolson will have gone over his background with a fine toothed comb.
Me too. That's when I give them the ball and play thru.
Unruly fans could just as easily harass TJ Otzelberger at Applebee’s, mocking his tiny polo shirts and 29-30 record at UNLV, leading to a confrontation. But this isn’t baseball, you don’t get a couple of strikes before being canceled. Every situation is judged on its own merits.
In fact, the opposite argument is just as plausible: given Beard’s past, he may be hyper-aware of avoiding negative encounters, knowing the scrutiny he’s under. If IU does its due diligence and determines he’s the best hire, the focus should be on what he brings to the program, not on hypotheticals that could happen to any coach under the wrong circumstances.
I'll be honest here, that article is a far cry from painting Beard as an alcoholic.
Texas Basketball Coach Chris Beard Is Once Again Drinking Beer
Texas Basketball coach Chris Beard is back to beer drinking after giving up the suds for the entirity of the Longhorn's 2021-22 season.www.outkick.com
That talks about how he’s going back to his beer. The other quote was reported by Jon Rothstein:
“Chris Beard tells me that he will NOT cut out beer like he did during last season.
Beard on going through last season without beer: "It got really hard when we were on the verge of a big win."”
don't know what you guys are sweatin'... the deal is done, the whale is ours, it's locked in SD's vault. Just waiting for the end of the season to announce. All per the guys on BTB. SD been working this deal since Christmas.
Only catch is that we've also landed Drew. And working on TJ. And Dusty's extension was really a smoke screen. They're all coming to Btown. Per the guys at BTB.
Not sure where on the bench Beard will sit, since we landed him too. Maybe next to Cronin, between McCollum and Few.
all confirmed by Trilly. Or Goodman. Rabs....maybe Sterling?
But DD thinks it has to be Alford.
It really is comical.
Only catch is that we've also landed Drew. And working on TJ. And Dusty's extension was really a smoke screen. They're all coming to Btown. Per the guys at BTB.
Not sure where on the bench Beard will sit, since we landed him too. Maybe next to Cronin, between McCollum and Few.
all confirmed by Trilly. Or Goodman. Rabs....maybe Sterling?
But DD thinks it has to be Alford.
It really is comical.
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And you and multiple other men on here have gone so far as to say they could have been self inflicted wounds. Lol. And then of course, ignore the video of him hammered and the guy who said Pat Knight had to bail him out. And don’t forget how many wounds Beard had. And don’t forget he had a recording, but chose not to show it. And don’t forget he didn’t fight his firing and walked away from 5 million. Sorry you’re unable to put two and two together. I can.
More important he doesn't have the offensive chops to win NCAA championships.
The guy is overrated and only because he once sniffed an RMK fart..
Do you read or think about what you type before hitting post? What about the guy that said there was a story that Pat Knight had to bail him out? I told him that was a BS third person story (at best) just like I'm telling you. He didn't refute that! But again, if that happened then that's an arrest record that will be easy for an investigator to find. If you're referencing the video I saw of Beard about the ball signing, that was made while he was still at TX Tech, but the story came out after he had left for UT and was from a butt hurt Lubbock writer. It was goofy,but in no way implied CB was an abuser, maybe that he had bad taste.
Yes, I said it is possible she inflicted wounds on herself. Sadly, it happens. I don't know what wounds Beard had and have never seen any record of it. He said it was self-defense and she said she'd not deny it. I don't know if he had a recording or not, but my guess is his first call was to his attorney who would probably advise him not to play it for the police. I don't know if he did or didn't fight his firing (and neither do you), but basically what I read was they could fire him for "conduct unbecoming of a representative of the U" and I'd imagine a fight with your GF qualifies, and maybe his lawyer advised him of that, and/or maybe UT paid him a severance package. I can put 2 and 2 together and it's nice to know you can too, it's just that you pull your 2's out of the air and claim it's real.
CB's ties to Bob Knight have nothing to do with his qualifications for the job. That didn't get him to a NC game, or an E8 or any of his conference titles or COYs. I give some credence to what you say about his offense, but the RMK ties aren't a factor. Whether his offense is good enough to get him a championship is arguable, that he is a good coach is not.
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