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So, who will it be?

Who will it be?

  • Chris Beard

    Votes: 44 33.6%
  • Brad Brownell

    Votes: 7 5.3%
  • Mick Cronin

    Votes: 7 5.3%
  • Scott Drew

    Votes: 3 2.3%
  • Grant McCastland

    Votes: 4 3.1%
  • Ben McCollum

    Votes: 28 21.4%
  • Bruce Pearl

    Votes: 2 1.5%
  • Shaka Smart

    Votes: 1 0.8%
  • Buzz Williams

    Votes: 6 4.6%
  • Other

    Votes: 29 22.1%

  • Total voters
    131
Consensus on Reddit is that there is not an active coaching search going on and the new coach has been locked up verbally since December. People that seem to be right a lot have said this.
That sort of makes sense with the timing of Woodson's "retirement" announcement. Dolson wanted to make a change this spring, has had that deal pretty much buttoned up, and wanted to cut off the possiblilty of a late-season run giving Woodson an argument for another year.
 
So now it’s plural? Where’s the info that he “beat” even one woman?

Zeke has no problem lobbing all sorts of unproven accusations. The ends justify the means, in her eyes. Never once acknowledged that self-defense was even a possibility, despite the woman saying so.
 
If you're wanting to be prepared to deal with a Florida gator you better bring something more hefty than a 9mm.
true. i have high cap 17 rnd mags and can probably pull off 10 rounds in under 3 seconds. But that might just piss him off.

anything larger and the recoil might knock me out of my kayak.

Assuming it's not legal to go gator plinking, even in self defense...even in FL.....I'll have to read up on the rules.
But if my life is on the line, I'd rather deal with a CPO than a gator. But just barely.
 
Salt water is just a different animal. Freshwater, sure you could be reeling in a small fish and have a larger bass or musky/pike slam it, but in saltwater it might be a big amberjack or tuna and you're in for the fight of your life, or just reel in a head and a shark or cuda bit your fish in half. Definitely feels like survival of the fittest. Snorkeling/spearfishing/lobstering is a blast too. You won't forget it if you spear a hogfish or snapper and have a cuda or shark flash in and take it right off your spear!
yeah I noticed that yrs ago...salt water fish have 2X the muscle.
I went on a charter deal with my boss a few yrs back around the islands /backwaters near St Pete, and had a 30" snook on....felt like a 30 lbs fish, the force it applied was. startling. Screaming drag, I did all I could just to hold on.
 
Zeke has no problem lobbing all sorts of unproven accusations. The ends justify the means, in her eyes. Never once acknowledged that self-defense was even a possibility, despite the woman saying so.
Domestic violence, understandably, hits people differently. Doesn't matter why or how, it just does. Its one of the reasons why I'll be surprised if he's the choice. Of any "issue" someone could have, that's one of the most difficult ones for all parties involved to move past.

The other main reason, that's tied to the initial one I mentioned, is it cuts Beard's margin for errors and mistakes down to basically nothing. He'd be starting his tenure at IU, basically, with a zero tolerance policy hanging over him. So...while a coach with a "clean" slate can absorb certain controversies, issues, transgressions, and move past them. Beard will never be able to do that.

For me, its MUCH less about the morality questions...but that's just me, DV hasn't been a big part of my personal story. But I do still have PTSD from the Sampson dumpster fire. And of all the coaches being opined about, Beard has the highest likelihood of burning the house down again. I'm wary of that.
 
true. i have high cap 17 rnd mags and can probably pull off 10 rounds in under 3 seconds. But that might just piss him off.

anything larger and the recoil might knock me out of my kayak.

Assuming it's not legal to go gator plinking, even in self defense...even in FL.....I'll have to read up on the rules.
But if my life is on the line, I'd rather deal with a CPO than a gator. But just barely.
From what I understand, you can hunt alligators at designated times but not with firearms.
 
Domestic violence, understandably, hits people differently. Doesn't matter why or how, it just does. Its one of the reasons why I'll be surprised if he's the choice. Of any "issue" someone could have, that's one of the most difficult ones for all parties involved to move past.

The other main reason, that's tied to the initial one I mentioned, is it cuts Beard's margin for errors and mistakes down to basically nothing. He'd be starting his tenure at IU, basically, with a zero tolerance policy hanging over him. So...while a coach with a "clean" slate can absorb certain controversies, issues, transgressions, and move past them. Beard will never be able to do that.

For me, its MUCH less about the morality questions...but that's just me, DV hasn't been a big part of my personal story. But I do still have PTSD from the Sampson dumpster fire. And of all the coaches being opined about, Beard has the highest likelihood of burning the house down again. I'm wary of that.
Just think, as concerned as you are, how concerned Scott Dolson would be, since his job would be on the line. All I've ever said is if you bow to the pressure and rule him out without doing background checks on him, you're not doing your job. But, if he hires him, I'm confident he'll have done the necessary vetting and talked with Beard to be sure he's convinced there would be nothing similar that would derail him. If he does that, I don't think you have any more to worry about with CB than anyone else. I've also always said, don't hone in on one candidate and talk to several so if he also does that and determines Otz or McCasland or whoever is a better candidate, I'm happy for that.
 
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From what I understand, you can hunt alligators at designated times but not with firearms.
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I believe us Hoosiers need to come to terms with the fact that this is now a business. Back in the 80's, 90's and, even 00's it was still collegiate athletics. If we want a good product on the court, then beard is the answer. He has proven at 3 power 4 conference teams he can do a fantastic job. This is an absolute no brainer. It's a home run hire right in front of us.
 
I believe us Hoosiers need to come to terms with the fact that this is now a business. Back in the 80's, 90's and, even 00's it was still collegiate athletics. If we want a good product on the court, then beard is the answer. He has proven at 3 power 4 conference teams he can do a fantastic job. This is an absolute no brainer. It's a home run hire right in front of us.
Home run for many IU fans ... but maybe not for Dolson & Co.
 
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I agree I think he'd do well here. It's that pesky baggage that keeps getting in the way.
Beard is a winner who would do well at IU ... and, imo, he'd be a good coaching fit. I don't think anyone can argue otherwise. However, even if the DV incident never occurred, maybe Dolson has someone better in mind (or already in the bag). Again, CB is a solid coach, but so are others; it's not like he's the only one high up on the coaching ladder.
 
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Just think, as concerned as you are, how concerned Scott Dolson would be, since his job would be on the line. All I've ever said is if you bow to the pressure and rule him out without doing background checks on him, you're not doing your job. But, if he hires him, I'm confident he'll have done the necessary vetting and talked with Beard to be sure he's convinced there would be nothing similar that would derail him. If he does that, I don't think you have any more to worry about with CB than anyone else. I've also always said, don't hone in on one candidate and talk to several so if he also does that and determines Otz or McCasland or whoever is a better candidate, I'm happy for that.
What you haven't acknowledged yet...

Assume it goes how you said...he vetted...Whitten was involved, and gave a thumbs up... they're both confident the incident wasn't as it was originally portrayed, he's not likely to do it again, etc... So they hire him.

He comes to IU, has success, wins big for a few years. Then he's out at a restaurant in Indy, maybe in the offseason even...and some drunk husband and wife bring up the DV issue, gets in his face, harasses Beard and the people with him. Beard sticks up for himself, gets in to a fight with the guy, police are called, etc...

My contention is Beard could easily get "cancelled", and IU would be forced to fire him, in that situation. Where as...if they hired McCasland, McCollum, May, Drew, Otz... that incident probably just goes away. And well, actually is much less likely to ever happen in the first place.

So he's fired, we lose 3/4 of our players, we're not planning for a coaching search, we have to name one of his assistants...Deja Frickin Vu...

Is he worth that risk?

If Dolson does all the leg work, comes to the conclusion that he's the guy...I'll cheer like crazy for him. Both personally and professionally. But again...I'm wary about hiring him because of the increased potential for how it could end.
 
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Iowa State HC T. J. Otzelberger would seem to be an outstanding choice to pursue…say $4m+, 7yrs…doesn’t seem to have any off court issues, could be a long term coach, Google him, he wins.
 
Iowa State HC T. J. Otzelberger would seem to be an outstanding choice to pursue…say $4m+, 7yrs…doesn’t seem to have any off court issues, could be a long term coach, Google him, he wins.
Can't go bargain hunting so, you're not paying him less than Woodson was earning when you know he's way better and has the results to prove it. I think it would take 6mil/6yrs to get TJO, minimum, and I think he'd be very interested at that range.
 
Spiked club. If you don't mind getting that close.
nope. not big on close encounters.

Hell I've been on golf courses in SW FL that had gators so big, sitting on the edge of a fairway, that made me wish I was carrying. Any ball that gets within 30 feet is a free drop on the other side of the fairway. No penalty stroke. No grief, no questions asked.
 
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