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So, So Glad Archie Is Our Coach

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I'm still on Cloud Nine that Archie is the head coach at Indiana. We needed someone to recruit talent in the state better. Check. We needed someone to vastly improve our defense. Check. We needed a coach to build a program based on character and toughness. Check. We needed a better basketball tactician. Check. No basketball team is perfect - especially a young one beset by injuries, but boy, oh boy, I think our program is in good hands. I hope he's here for the next 30 years, we win a bunch of games and a handful of national championships.
 
I'm still on Cloud Nine that Archie is the head coach at Indiana. We needed someone to recruit talent in the state better. Check. We needed someone to vastly improve our defense. Check. We needed a coach to build a program based on character and toughness. Check. We needed a better basketball tactician. Check. No basketball team is perfect - especially a young one beset by injuries, but boy, oh boy, I think our program is in good hands. I hope he's here for the next 30 years, we win a bunch of games and a handful of national championships.

Damn man, haven't you been educated here enough to KNOW that we should have gotten Holtman or Mack. Read more of those enlightened posts!

Do I need to put DWS?
 
The same was said about Crean daily for about 3,000 days.

I like him but let’s wait until he proves something before we start hoping for 30 years.
 
The same was said about Crean daily for about 3,000 days.

I like him but let’s wait until he proves something before we start hoping for 30 years.

BS. You keep making sh*t up. The hyperbole that you spew on here is quite funny. Keep saying it, maybe others will start to believe it.
 
The same was said about Crean daily for about 3,000 days.

I like him but let’s wait until he proves something before we start hoping for 30 years.
The same was said about Crean daily for over 8 yeas????

You've taken your shtick to another level.
 
The same was said about Crean daily for about 3,000 days.

I like him but let’s wait until he proves something before we start hoping for 30 years.
You don't see a difference between Archie and Crean?
 
Once again, no matter how the Coach Miller era unfolds at IU, all I need to see is the demeanor of Coach Miller throughout the game to derail any/all comparisons to Coach Crean. The camera peek inside the huddle during the game was insightful . . . well beyond "we need to play faster". Also, his exasperated reaction to missed free throws directly reflected how I felt while watching from my comfy chair here in FL. I do not know if IU's free throw percentage is going to improve, but I at least believe Coach Miller will have them working on it based on his reaction during the game.
 
The same was said about Crean daily for about 3,000 days.

I like him but let’s wait until he proves something before we start hoping for 30 years.

No.

Huh uh.

The same was never said about Clappy by anyone with a working brain.
 
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I'm still on Cloud Nine that Archie is the head coach at Indiana. We needed someone to recruit talent in the state better. Check. We needed someone to vastly improve our defense. Check. We needed a coach to build a program based on character and toughness. Check. We needed a better basketball tactician. Check. No basketball team is perfect - especially a young one beset by injuries, but boy, oh boy, I think our program is in good hands. I hope he's here for the next 30 years, we win a bunch of games and a handful of national championships.


Good post... I am impressed how he's been able to develop this young team to understand the art of closing out a close game... They circle their wagons on "D" and attack the bucket on "O"... I really love it when they spread the floor and drive for a close shot and draw a foul, then go to the line and sink one for a the," in your face " type play as our fans go crazy... Winning most of your close games is the trade mark of quality coaching... Thank you Archie...
 
Might have been said by Coach Trailer Park or some other imbeciles, but no one in their right mind ever thought Clappy was a good idea.

No one.
Why lie about it? We all remember. I don’t know why some have such difficulty admitting when they were wrong.
 
Why lie about it? We all remember. I don’t know why some have such difficulty admitting when they were wrong.
You need to separate those that supported the team and players from those that supported Crean. Fans wanted to see the players do well, regardless of who the coach was or is. Those kids (mostly teenagers) committed to IU, worked hard, played hard and won some games along with conference titles. Your ego can’t make that distinction so you lie about nearly every topic regarding the recent history of IU basketball.
 
I do think Archie is much better.

I’m just saying don’t jump the gun on archie yet. He still has plenty to prove for being IU’s coach. And I believe he will.
He is recruiting well, the roster is deep (young) and the defense is much improved. He has made a lot of progress. There may be reason to complain at some point, but for now I am enjoying a coach that has a plan and working towards a sustainable program that can compete for deep NCAA runs. It is okay to like and give 100% support to Archie. You can turn on him later.
 
The same was said about Crean daily for about 3,000 days.

I like him but let’s wait until he proves something before we start hoping for 30 years.

I can actually agree with this post. But it needs a couple of clarifications. I'll edit them in for you:

The same was said about Crean daily (ok, not REALLY daily... and by a very small minority of this board) for about 3,000 days.

I like him (more than Crean so far - I'll save my judgment for at least five years) but let's wait until he proves something (like a few national championships and maybe an undefeated season like Bobby did) before we start hoping for 30 years.
 
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I like him (more than Crean so far - I'll save my judgment for at least five years) but let's wait until he proves something (like a few national championships and maybe an undefeated season like Bobby did) before we start hoping for 30 years.

They're all the same thing.
 
I can actually agree with this post. But it needs a couple of clarifications. I'll edit them in for you:

The same was said about Crean daily (ok, not REALLY daily... and by a very small minority of this board) for about 3,000 days.

I like him (more than Crean so far - I'll save my judgment for at least five years) but let's wait until he proves something (like a few national championships and maybe an undefeated season like Bobby did) before we start hoping for 30 years.
It was not a very small minority.
 
Why lie about it? We all remember. I don’t know why some have such difficulty admitting when they were wrong.

I don’t follow. Lie? Wrong?

Before year 2 was over, Peegs was threatening to ban me for anti-Clappy comments.

That happened MANY times to me over the years.
 
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Considering Crean was only here for 9 years, that would mean only ONE year of calling for his head. Which, if true, why did Fred have to give him a vote of confidence after the 2015 season?

Sorry, not following very well this freezing Mon morning.
 
I'm still on Cloud Nine that Archie is the head coach at Indiana. We needed someone to recruit talent in the state better. Check. We needed someone to vastly improve our defense. Check. We needed a coach to build a program based on character and toughness. Check. We needed a better basketball tactician. Check. No basketball team is perfect - especially a young one beset by injuries, but boy, oh boy, I think our program is in good hands. I hope he's here for the next 30 years, we win a bunch of games and a handful of national championships.

I’ve slowly gone from spending the last several years watching close games and thinking “well, shit, Clappy’s boys are gonna lose this game one way or another” to now thinking “oh, hell, we could pull this one out”.
 
More like an effing person with a working brain.

There were a bunch of us back then who knew, very early on, that Clappy was a huckster.

Th be fair TC had mostly positive reviews here for three years which shifted to "pulling for him" for about three more. It got pretty negative the last three. What people forget is how many good posters have abandoned this board over the course of Ordfan's cancerous scourge here.
 
What people forget is how many good posters have abandoned this board over the course of Ordfan's cancerous scourge here.

Now DBA 'knewthiswascoming'. Some likely to return as Play/Program continues to improve under Miller - 'jonezing' is generally an incurable, lifelong affliction. :cool:
 
two moments in time turned me against CTC, and I really wanted him to succeed as he seemed to say the right things early on about being at IU, landing Cody and Yogi's class. But the 2013 team flame out at the end of the season- especially the Cuse debacle, woke me up and realized I might have been wrong.

For some reason, the Luke Fisher transfer was what did it for me. It was like a flare being shot into the sky.

By the time we had the near-tragedy with DD/Holt, the train was off the rails. Sad thing is, the program hung in there with both kids...and they both ended up washing out of the program.

CTC's demise would have been sooner except for Yogi putting the team on his back his Sr year.
 
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I'm still on Cloud Nine that Archie is the head coach at Indiana. We needed someone to recruit talent in the state better. Check. We needed someone to vastly improve our defense. Check. We needed a coach to build a program based on character and toughness. Check. We needed a better basketball tactician. Check. No basketball team is perfect - especially a young one beset by injuries, but boy, oh boy, I think our program is in good hands. I hope he's here for the next 30 years, we win a bunch of games and a handful of national championships.
Totally agree. He brings so much more to the table than Crean ever could. IU basketball is fun to watch and exciting again...
 
two moments in time turned me against CTC, and I really wanted him to succeed as he seemed to say the right things early on about being at IU, landing Cody and Yogi's class. But the 2013 team flame out at the end of the season- especially the Cuse debacle, woke me up and realized I might have been wrong.

For some reason, the Luke Fisher transfer was what did it for me. It was like a flare being shot into the sky.

By the time we had the near-tragedy with DD/Holt, the train was off the rails. Sad thing is, the program hung in there with both kids...and they both ended up washing out of the program.

CTC's demise would have been sooner except for Yogi putting the team on his back his Sr year.
The loss of Luke Fisher certainly was the “transfer of ill fate” for Crean, much like the transfer of another kid named Luke was for Bob Knight in Luke Recker. BTW, “like a flare shot into the sky” is wonderful imagery and you are to be commended. Fisher claimed homesickness, when in reality I think he was offended by the behavioral habits of some of his teammates. It couldn’t have been because he missed his mom’s macaroni and cheese as some speculated on here. He wasn’t here long enough to have a lasting impact...1 semester, whereas Recker, I think, left as a junior to Iowa. He came back to Assembly Hall to personally beat IU while wearing an Iowa uniform, which as one might expect, really stung the IU faithful. Public sentiment really turned against Bob Knight after that particular transfer with all but the true Knight worshippers like myself. My allegiance to The General has never wavered. I still think the IU administration did him wrong in a very selfishly ugly sort of way. Sadly, he will die a broken man, yet as the most influential character representing the game we all love, IU basketball.
 
I’ve slowly gone from spending the last several years watching close games and thinking “well, shit, Clappy’s boys are gonna lose this game one way or another” to now thinking “oh, hell, we could pull this one out”.


With Creans teams....you basically knew within the first 8 minutes if they were going to win the game or not....either his pre-game plan worked or it didn't. Adjusting in-game to what was happening (players, schemes, etc....) was just not something that occurred at IU for 9 years. Hell, the guy couldn't even draw up plays to manage to get the ball inbounds half the time. A timeout situation was certain recipe for failure.

I could probably count on one hand the number of games during his entire tenure where the team came back from a deficit of more than a bucket or two to win a game.
 
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