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i don't care about the russian shit. i'm talking about trump in general. the guy is garbage. and a dogshit president. and an awful human post presidency. and the dems own him. he just can't stop losing
He may be garbage, but his Presidency was pretty successful.

We'll see if Trump hate and enthusiasm for their own candidate is as strong in 2024 as it was in 2020.
 
I'm not sure he thinks he's losing. Which, of course, is all that matters to Trump. His end goal is not the same as the Republicans. Just a means to an end.
I think his and Republicans end goal is to win the Presidency. Is that even a question?
 
He may be garbage, but his Presidency was pretty successful.

We'll see if Trump hate and enthusiasm for their own candidate is as strong in 2024 as it was in 2020.
What was successful? He empowered fauci to create mass hysteria and paralyze the country. Fauci wasn’t elected. He should be a tool of info not the voice. Trump had zero leadership ability. He was and is a clown
 
What was successful? He empowered fauci to create mass hysteria and paralyze the country. Fauci wasn’t elected. He should be a tool of info not the voice. Trump had zero leadership ability. He was and is a clown
Go back and look at the rise in the stock market. Go look at the unemployment rate for minorities. Look at real wage gains. Look at his diplomacy with N. Korea. Look at his dealing with China - most policies remain in place today. Look at this strengthening of NATO and his warnings to the EU about relying on Russian energy supply. Look at US energy independence.

For a start.....
 
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Biden's should 100% be punished when/if the evidence supports it.

If there's reason for it, I hope it comes to light soon, and that it forces Biden out of the 24' race.

And then I hope the Democrats have enough sense to run someone like Manchin (if he'd even do it)...and end a large portion of this Twilight Zone Bullchit we're all being forced to live through right now.

In short, I hope SOMEONE grows up and becomes the adult in the room. Whoever that is will get my vote, and possibly party allegiance.
The Manchin love is mind boggling to me. He sold out long ago. Doubt he could make it through any type of investigation on his businesses and vote record.
 
Oh geez, not you, too.......

I'm not going to argue the Russians may have wanted Trump to win, but there's just no evidence that he ever sought their help or conspired with them somehow.

It's true his staff shared poll data. I imagine it was to try to impress them and show he could win. It's not illegal and more like ego-boosting than anything else.

There was contact between Democrats and Russians, too. BFD. Communication happen - or happened - all the time. What really motivated the media and Democrats was the salacious Steele Dossier - and that was proved to be a farce. The FBI even knew that fact before they even used it to get FISA warrants.

Hell, the FBI even offered Danchenko $1 million if he could produce any supporting evidence for it.

Don't play into the narrative.
Republican-led senate confirmed Russia worked for Trump campaign in 2016-the senate did not confirm Trump colluded with Russia. My question is why did Putin want Trump in over HRC?
 
Notice how they always bring Trump up now, when the real story is the Biden Crime Family

The Orange Man can't hurt them anymore, but they can't let him go because it assuages their shame and guilt for voting for who they knew is a dunce and liar.
Lol. Who is getting another indictment this week, likely? That’s actually the real story. As for orange man, he is still running for President again, isn’t he? I have zero shame or guilt for voting for Joe Biden and never will. His opponent was one of foulest people in politics.
 
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I think his and Republicans end goal is to win the Presidency. Is that even a question?
Temporary alignment at best. Honestly, how beholden will Trump be to the Republican party if he doesn't have to worry about ever being elected again. Talk about a nightmare scenario.
 
enthusiasm for their own candidate is as strong in 2024 as it was in 2020.
You're joking, right? "Enthusiam for their own candidate?" There was no enthusiasm for Biden in 2020. 80 million people voted for him because he isn't Trump. Biden will get even more votes this time around and, again, not because of any "enthusiasm" for him. Independents and thoughtful voters who put country above party don't generally flock to criminal defendants who engage in misconduct that is antithetical to American democracy and who are dealing with four (or more) indictments.
 
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You can yabutt all you want but that is not a good comp.
Why? You think Jared’s two billion is on the up and up? Remember the journalist that was dismembered and Jared helped smooth things over for his buddy? Good stuff.
 
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Oh geez, not you, too.......

I'm not going to argue the Russians may have wanted Trump to win, but there's just no evidence that he ever sought their help or conspired with them somehow.

It's true his staff shared poll data. I imagine it was to try to impress them and show he could win. It's not illegal and more like ego-boosting than anything else.

There was contact between Democrats and Russians, too. BFD. Communication happen - or happened - all the time. What really motivated the media and Democrats was the salacious Steele Dossier - and that was proved to be a farce. The FBI even knew that fact before they even used it to get FISA warrants.

Hell, the FBI even offered Danchenko $1 million if he could produce any supporting evidence for it.

Don't play into the narrative.
Absolutely nonsense and garbage. The fact that you just choose to ignore fact after fact about the Russian Collusion is hilarious. There is a boatload of evidence. And then you’re jumping on top of every single person who says they have something on Biden and assume it’s true. Talk about double standard.
 
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Republican-led senate confirmed Russia worked for Trump campaign in 2016-the senate did not confirm Trump colluded with Russia. My question is why did Putin want Trump in over HRC?
Probably because they thought they could deal better with him. I doubt they counted on him strengthening NATO after their 2014 foray.

And they know Hillary is a lot sneakier.
 
Temporary alignment at best. Honestly, how beholden will Trump be to the Republican party if he doesn't have to worry about ever being elected again. Talk about a nightmare scenario.
He'd have to if he ever wants any legislation. And if he doesn't want to be impeached again.
 
For me its more a matter of timing. I hate to think what Trump will look, and act like, when he's at the tail end of his life, like Biden is. Biden, before his decline, was likeable, pretty sharp witted, funny at times.

The thought of him trying to endure 4 more years is absurd, to me. Although, I guess the White House could be the best assisted living house on the planet?!
trump is a traitor, how could you like him?
 
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He'd have to if he ever wants any legislation. And if he doesn't want to be impeached again.
He could try and go rogue for a legacy. Who knows. I don't think he give a shti about legislation or much of anything else unless it directly benefits him.
 
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Go back and look at the rise in the stock market. Go look at the unemployment rate for minorities. Look at real wage gains. Look at his diplomacy with N. Korea. Look at his dealing with China - most policies remain in place today. Look at this strengthening of NATO and his warnings to the EU about relying on Russian energy supply. Look at US energy independence.

For a start.....
Go back and look at what that great fiscal conservative Trump did to the national debt - - - before Covid.

And the all-time low unemployment rate for blacks (5%, March 2023) happened under the current administration, not Trump's.

Diplomacy with Little Rocket Man, the man with the smaller button than Trump's? Don't make me laugh.

Strengthening of NATO? He was going to dismantle it in a second term.
 
The Manchin love is mind boggling to me. He sold out long ago. Doubt he could make it through any type of investigation on his businesses and vote record.
Its not love, for me. Its practicality. I want either party to nominate someone that is a lock to beat either Trump or Biden. Most candidates other than Trump would beat Biden, on the republican side. I like Haley, Scott, or Huntsman. There are far fewer Dems, in my opinion, that would be locks to beat Trump...but Manchin is one of them. The farther left you go, the riskier it gets.
 
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Over the years I’ve had clients attend seminars on using multiple Trusts and LLCs to avoid taxes.

In every case they brought information back for me to review. The first page of the materials said something like this “don’t let your CPA or Attorney see this material. This will put them out of business so they will tell you it’s fraudulent”

I told my clients if they wanted to commit fraud I would no longer provide any services. I mockingly told them if they wanted to commit fraud and hide incomeq, just commit fraud and not report the income and forget paying thousands to crooks to set up Trusts and LLCs. Thankfully all my clients moved forward without the fraud scheme reporting income properly.

It appears the Bidens decided to do the multiple LLCs method.
There is a lot of truth in this. Even if you aren't trying to commit fraud, using all these entities is almost always an attempt to hide something or avoid liability for something in a shady, borderline illegal way. Best example, ironically, is real estate developers.
 
Its not love, for me. Its practicality. I want either party to nominate someone that is a lock to beat either Trump or Biden. Most candidates other than Trump would beat Biden, on the republican side. I like Haley, Scott, or Huntsman. There are far fewer Dems, in my opinion, that would be locks to beat Trump...but Manchin is one of them. The farther left you go, the riskier it gets.
I would consider Manchin.
 
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Its not love, for me. Its practicality. I want either party to nominate someone that is a lock to beat either Trump or Biden. Most candidates other than Trump would beat Biden, on the republican side. I like Haley, Scott, or Huntsman. There are far fewer Dems, in my opinion, that would be locks to beat Trump...but Manchin is one of them. The farther left you go, the riskier it gets.
I want a moderate also. I’m not sure Manchin can beat anyone.
 
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