plus they pretty much kicked everyone's ass on album covers. (my favorite of which is the bottom one).
maybe even album names as well.
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Ha ha I could probably write for Rolling Stone or one of those old metal guitar rags.OMG, you're one of those school newspaper music critic BS writers, aren't you.
Molly Hatchet is the greatest disappointment in epicness of album cover to epicness of music.
plus they pretty much kicked everyone's ass on album covers. (my favorite of which is the bottom one).
maybe even album names as well.
I kept waiting for someone to do Bowie...I'll start with the 5 slam dunk albums I bought...Released from "71-'74I can’t believe Tom Petty hasn’t been called out yet:
Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers
You’re Gonna Get It!
Damn the Torpedoes
Hard Promises
Long After Dark
The next album is Southern Accents which is excellent as well. Then there is another run:
Full Moon Fever
Into the Great Wide Open
Wildflowers
Music from She’s the One
Echo
Simply amazing how consistently excellent he was for 4 decades.
Interesting. I can recognize the technical abilities of these bands, but outside of a portion of the work of the Moody Blues and just a little bit of Yes (could never stand Jon Anderson), you’ve listed some bands and a style I just can’t stand. A Queen song can come on Sirius and I get the channel changed in a couple of notes. Billy Joel also elicits this response.Molly Hatchet is the greatest disappointment in epicness of album cover to epicness of music.
I mean how can an album cover that looks like this have pussy ass songs like Flirting With Disaster and Dreams I'll Never See???
I second your notion that the Moody Blues are extremely underrated but I'm a sucker for the full sonic experience with bands like Moody Blues, ELO, Queen, Yes, Genesis, etc
Next up, Mr Browne...Again extremely prolific over a relatively short period of time to establish himself and flaunt RRHOF credentials.I kept waiting for someone to do Bowie...I'll start with the 5 slam dunk albums I bought...Released from "71-'74
Hunky Dory
Ziggy
Aladdin Sane
Pinups
Diamond Dogs
Those are the 5 albums I bought, and ironically it was subsequent albums like Young Americans, Station to Station and Low which really never interested me that sold even more copies. Bowie reinvented himself, which is perfectly fine- I just chose at the time to not go along for the ride. But he certainly fits the criteria of this thread...
That was an Allman bros pen called Dreams.. Gregg to be exact. Rearranged and renamed by Hatchet .. who were a studio marketed band trying to cash in on Skynyrd popularity.Dreams I'll Never See???
1994 | Chocolate and Cheese | — | 10 | 80 | |
1996 | 12 Golden Country Greats | — | 23 | 72 | |
1997 | The Mollusk | 159 | 5 | 69 | |
2000 | White Pepper | 121 | 2 | — | |
2003 | Quebec | Sanctuary | 81 | — | — |
2007 | La Cucaracha | R |
Yeah Anderson has crazy range but not the most pleasant of sounding voices.Interesting. I can recognize the technical abilities of these bands, but outside of a portion of the work of the Moody Blues and just a little bit of Yes (could never stand Jon Anderson), you’ve listed some bands and a style I just can’t stand. A Queen song can come on Sirius and I get the channel changed in a couple of notes. Billy Joel also elicits this response.
We’re all tuned a little differently.
I had no idea this was an Allman bros tune. I just always thought it was funny how it came off an album that looked like it should be nothing but gutteral screams. LolThat was an Allman bros pen called Dreams.. Gregg to be exact. Rearranged and renamed by Hatchet .. who were a studio marketed band trying to cash in on Skynyrd popularity.
Yeah, they sucked balls .... so did 38 spec. same thing, they actually played pop rock riffs. Wasn't anything close to southern boogie rock.
Original was very different .. duane switches to slide half way through.
Yeah Anderson has crazy range but not the most pleasant of sounding voices.
It always amazes me how music reaches each of us personally. I'm a note/interval/melody guy. Have always had an ear for 'notes' which is what tends to hook me. Plus I've been pretty good at reciting notes, etc and has always been pretty good at quickly finding and singing harmonies.
Some people are lyrics first. I'm not. Words to me are basically instruments that put out notes. It's how I can love a band like Muse even though lyrically they are terrible, almost cringy...but I don't pay much attention to the actual lyrics unless they are really good.
Some people are drawn to rhythm first. Some are drawn to tone (as a guitar player myself, I've never had a strong ear for tone which is why I gave up and play through a Kemper now). Tones are different from notes in my example. Tone is more about the overall sound or depth of a sound. Notes are the collection and arrangement of how the sounds used together.
Anyway, make a short story long, bands like were mentioned tend to overload you and fill the spectrum with notes that I enjoy picking out, etc. Again I don't pay much attention to lyrics, it's the arrangements that talk to me for the most part on if I enjoy something.
So yeah, your post is spot on.
Me too ... I use an old beat up guitar with horribly high action to play on.I'm a terrible slide player
Beat>Rhythm>Melody>LyricsYeah Anderson has crazy range but not the most pleasant of sounding voices.
It always amazes me how music reaches each of us personally. I'm a note/interval/melody guy. Have always had an ear for 'notes' which is what tends to hook me. Plus I've been pretty good at reciting notes, etc and has always been pretty good at quickly finding and singing harmonies.
Some people are lyrics first. I'm not. Words to me are basically instruments that put out notes. It's how I can love a band like Muse even though lyrically they are terrible, almost cringy...but I don't pay much attention to the actual lyrics unless they are really good.
Some people are drawn to rhythm first. Some are drawn to tone (as a guitar player myself, I've never had a strong ear for tone which is why I gave up and play through a Kemper now). Tones are different from notes in my example. Tone is more about the overall sound or depth of a sound. Notes are the collection and arrangement of how the sounds used together.
Anyway, make a short story long, bands like were mentioned tend to overload you and fill the spectrum with notes that I enjoy picking out, etc. Again I don't pay much attention to lyrics, it's the arrangements that talk to me for the most part on if I enjoy something.
So yeah, your post is spot on.
Me too ... I use an old beat up guitar with horribly high action to play on.
Beat>Rhythm>Melody>Lyrics
I've learned to lock on the beat first... it's the meat, everything else is a condiment.
Unless something outstanding lyrically, I only know the first verse and chorus, it' all I need to know. I tend to consider vocals as just another instrument ... unless it's poetry.
fwiw - in listening and songwriting ... lyrics first equal feminine, rhythm first equals masculine. Or that's how it was once described. Named such as females generally fit rhythm to words when writing and pay more attention to the words, while males generally fit words to rhythm and pay less attention to the words. Generalized of course, as there's always exceptions.
Yes ...“Me too ... I use an old beat up guitar with horribly high action to play on.”
Aren’t all guitars that are to be played with a slide meant to have super high action?
Time for Reginald Dwight to stand up and be recognized. I may have gone back and bought Empty Sky retroactively, but I'm going to start the list with the self titled Elton John, from 1970. Your Song, Border Song, 60 Years On, Take Me To The Pilot... Just an extraordinary debut album with Elton's musicianship and Bernie's lyrics...Next up, Mr Browne...Again extremely prolific over a relatively short period of time to establish himself and flaunt RRHOF credentials.
Many people, myself included thought the debut album was titled Saturate Before Using, but that was because we got confused over the lettering on the water flask looking like it was part of the album cover, rather than writing within the cover photo. I didn't live in Cali or the desert, so I'd never seen an actual water flask before...
Anyway, the album blew me away when I first heard it, and basically all I knew was that artists I admired (CSNY, Ronstadt, Joni, JT) were friends of his who recommended his music... So starting in '72...
Jackson Browne/ Saturate Before Using
I didn't even have a stereo, just a mono record player. So I couldn't even pick up all these harmonies ( Mr Crosby, btw...) and the brilliance of the voices on the counter melody verse. And I had no idea Silver Lake was a suburb of LA. But this song and the entire album still blew me away..
And it just got better with each successive album...
For Everyman '73
Late For The Sky '74
Pretender '76
Running On Empty '77
Then in 1980 he released Hold Out, which was his first #1 album, and my least favorite among those first 6. It's not bad, just not brilliant like any of those first five. Somebody's Baby was a smash hit and part of the Fast Times soundtrack, and memorable songs include Of Missing Persons which memorializes Lowell George and others like Boulevard and Call It A Loan.
I think after that Jackson became more hit or miss for me. I'd find myself really liking some songs on an album, but not so much others. He sort of shifted his focus, but I always thought his brilliance was in his lyrics, especially Sky and the other first 3 albums. I also think Jackson deserves a massive amount of credit for producing Warren's first album and introducing the world to the brilliance of Warren Zevon...
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I'm going to start the list with the self titled Elton John, from 1970. Your Song, Border Song, 60 Years On, Take Me To The Pilot... Just an extraordinary debut album with Elton's musicianship and Bernie's lyrics...
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Tumbleweed Connection '70
Madman '71
Among the best
Can’t Buy a Thrill — November 1972
Countdown to Ecstasy — July 1973
Pretzel Logic — February 20, 1974
Katy Lied — March 1975
The Royal Scam — May 31, 1976
Aja — September 23, 1977
I did.Did you mean to leave off the next album Gaucho?
I believe Goat hit SD earlier. Regardless I agree with both of you. A fantastic run.I did.
Other then "Hey Nineteen", it was my least favorite album.
I ignore him so.....I believe Goat hit SD earlier. Regardless I agree with both of you. A fantastic run.
That makes sense in political threads, I guess. But on a music thread I'd undo ignores, just to see if there was worthwhile info posted. GOAT nailed SD, and in particular the ambiguity myself and several others indicated that we felt regrading some of the releases subsequent to the brilliance of Can't Buy and Countdown to Ecstacy...I ignore him so.....
With SD it is squarely about the music through the first six.That makes sense in political threads, I guess. But on a music thread I'd undo ignores, just to see if there was worthwhile info posted. GOAT nailed SD, and in particular the ambiguity myself and several others indicated that we felt regrading some of the releases subsequent to the brilliance of Can't Buy and Countdown to Ecstacy...
I have your "Dreams" as "Dreams I'll Never See" . . . .That was an Allman bros pen called Dreams.. Gregg to be exact. Rearranged and renamed by Hatchet .. who were a studio marketed band trying to cash in on Skynyrd popularity.
Yeah, they sucked balls .... so did 38 spec. same thing, they actually played pop rock riffs. Wasn't anything close to southern boogie rock.
Original was very different .. duane switches to slide half way through.
Hmm. Always heard original name was plainly Dreams. It was one of his first songs and the one that got him in the band .. or something like that. I may be wrong.I have your "Dreams" as "Dreams I'll Never See" . . . .
I have the impression that "Dreams" was the name of the album, not the song.
Got him in the band? What was it called before, with just one Allman?Hmm. Always heard original name was plainly Dreams. It was one of his first songs and the one that got him in the band .. or something like that. I may be wrong.
Allman Joys ..Got him in the band? What was it called before, with just one Allman?
Before looking this up to make sure, I was going to post that you needed to place this in the Dad Joke thread (yes, there is one...sort of).Allman Joys ..
Except for the "Van halen" aspect.Van Halen ripped off 6 bangers to start their career:
Van Halen
Van Halen II
Women and Children First
Fair Warning
Diver Down
1984
That’s rock solid right there.
Wait. Are you telling me that there are people who don’t like Van Halen???Except for the "Van halen" aspect.
Shocking I know.Wait. Are you telling me that there are people who don’t like Van Halen???
Wait. Are you telling me that there are people who don’t like Van Halen???
Just because he was much wealthier, more famous, better looking. I mean what the heck.@Marvin the Martian doesn't. Stole his girlfriend.