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Seems like Oregon is another must win game

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according to alot off of bracketmatrix. Even after IU's win ovef OSU, a good amount of them still have OSU higher than IU. This net thing has to be off somewhat. In the end only one bracket matters, but I have a hard time understanding OSU still being in over IU with IU sweeping them. Oh yeah, the NET ratings. 🤷‍♂️

Oregon is a must win.
 
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according to alot off of bracketmatrix. Even after IU's win ovef OSU, a good amount of them still have OSU higher than IU. This net thing has to be off somewhat. In the end only one bracket matters, but I have a hard time understanding OSU still being in over IU with IU sweeping them. Oh yeah, the NET ratings. 🤷‍♂️

Oregon is a must win.
He's not coming back. You can relent and say something positive and not sweat it. Every bracketologist I've heard has them safely in. Not as many bid stealers this year and the folks in our "area" for the tourney all have weaker resumes. Weird, because isn't this essentially the same record as last year?
 
according to alot off of bracketmatrix. Even after IU's win ovef OSU, a good amount of them still have OSU higher than IU. This net thing has to be off somewhat. In the end only one bracket matters, but I have a hard time understanding OSU still being in over IU with IU sweeping them. Oh yeah, the NET ratings. 🤷‍♂️

Oregon is a must win.
It would take lots of Bid Stealers to keep us out. Looking at most of the top rated Bracketologists we are somewhere near the bottom of the Last Four Byes or the top of Last Four In, which means it would take 4 or 5 bid thieves to keep us out. It is possible, but I certainly wouldn't call Oregon a 'must win'.
 
according to alot off of bracketmatrix. Even after IU's win ovef OSU, a good amount of them still have OSU higher than IU. This net thing has to be off somewhat. In the end only one bracket matters, but I have a hard time understanding OSU still being in over IU with IU sweeping them. Oh yeah, the NET ratings. 🤷‍♂️

Oregon is a must win.
No its not. IU could miss out with a loss. Stranger things have happened. But them making it is much more likely, at this point.
 
"Safely in" if they finish 19-13? IU might get in, but nothing is safe with another loss to Oregon. Beat the Ducks and put this to bed.
I think both guys who do bracketology on Assembly Call have us in and Field of 68. Like I said, when you start looking around at the other teams in our area code (UNC, OSU, Wake, Xavier, etc....) we have better wins. Also fewer bid stealers this year it seems.
 
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I think both guys who do bracketology on Assembly Call have us in and Field of 68. Like I said, when you start looking around at the other teams in our area code (UNC, OSU, Wake, Xavier, etc....) we have better wins. Also fewer bid stealers this year it seems.
There are still some bid stealers, but it does seem like less this year.

Obviously any of the major conferences (Big 12, Big 10, ACC, Big East, SEC)...if obvious at large teams don't win it, that's a bid stealer. But there are enough good, top end teams in each of those conferences, that its unlikely to get down to the 5,6,7th + place teams winning it. Which is what it would take. SEC it'd take 11th or 12th +, maybe Big 10 too... not gonna happen. Maybe ACC or Big East??...

Other conferences to keep an eye on though...

American Athletic... If Memphis doesn't win that tournament, that's a bid stealer.
West Coast... If Gonzaga or St Marys don't win that tournament, that's a bid stealer.
A10...If VCU doesn't win it, that is a bid stealer.
Mountain West... there are 3-4 teams currently in at large consideration, if one of those doesn't win it, that's a bid stealer.

There haven't been any other bid stealers win it thus far, and none of the other conferences have any at large candidates.
 
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There are still some bid stealers, but it does seem like less this year.

Obviously any of the major conferences (Big 12, Big 10, ACC, Big East, SEC)...if obvious at large teams don't win it, that's a bid stealer. But there are enough good, top end teams in each of those conferences, that its unlikely to get down to the 5,6,7th + place teams winning it. Which is what it would take. SEC it'd take 11th or 12th +, maybe Big 10 too... not gonna happen. Maybe ACC or Big East??...

Other conferences to keep an eye on though...

American Athletic... If Memphis doesn't win that tournament, that's a bid stealer.
West Coast... If Gonzaga or St Marys don't win that tournament, that's a bid stealer.
A10...If VCU doesn't win it, that is a bid stealer.
Mountain West... there are 3-4 teams currently in at large consideration, if one of those doesn't win it, that's a bid stealer.

There haven't been any other bid stealers win it thus far, and none of the other conferences have any at large candidates.
I'm sure there will be 1 maybe 2 surprises, but I think of bid stealers coming out of the smaller conferences like Big South or MVC and the regular season champ not winning the tourney, which didn't happen much at all. Super unlikely that a team not already in wins in the SEC, B10, ACC or Big East. I think we can weather 2 surprises. But obviously the easiest path is to beat OR. When has IU taken the easy path though?
 
according to alot off of bracketmatrix. Even after IU's win ovef OSU, a good amount of them still have OSU higher than IU. This net thing has to be off somewhat. In the end only one bracket matters, but I have a hard time understanding OSU still being in over IU with IU sweeping them. Oh yeah, the NET ratings. 🤷‍♂️

Oregon is a must win.
They all are.
Even if we're "already in", getting a better seed is important.
And to think we're excited about making the Big Dance. How the mighty have fallen
:(
 
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I think a loss to Oregon were still in unless something happends this week where there is major upset. Most have us as a 11 on the first bye a loss could put us in the first 4 games at Dayton. A win over Oregon puts us solidly in a couple wins maybe gets us a 10 seed.
 
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They all are.
Even if we're "already in", getting a better seed is important.
And to think we're excited about making the Big Dance. How the mighty have fallen
:(
I'm excited over making the tournament over not making the tournament. It's possible to be disappointed in this season, but still excited to be in the tournament. We don't need a 'how the mighty have fallen' post everytime we talk about something positive.
 
Per ESPN...
4-10 vs. Top 50
11-12 vs. Top 100

Lock, you say?
Looking at any team in isolation is pointless. Some years that resume would be miles away from the bubble, and some years that resume will get you into the tournament. It's all about comparison to others on the bubble. And there are lots of other metrics that matter. We have the best win of any bubble team @ MSU. We have 0 Q2, Q3 or Q4 losses.
 
Looking at any team in isolation is pointless. Some years that resume would be miles away from the bubble, and some years that resume will get you into the tournament. It's all about comparison to others on the bubble. And there are lots of other metrics that matter. We have the best win of any bubble team @ MSU. We have 0 Q2, Q3 or Q4 losses.
All true, but it doesn't equate to a lock. All I'm saying.
 
according to alot off of bracketmatrix. Even after IU's win ovef OSU, a good amount of them still have OSU higher than IU. This net thing has to be off somewhat. In the end only one bracket matters, but I have a hard time understanding OSU still being in over IU with IU sweeping them. Oh yeah, the NET ratings. 🤷‍♂️

Oregon is a must win.
The reason for the low NET ranking is because of the spreads in these losses. Its bad....

Louisville by 28
Gonzaga by 16
Nebraska by 17
Iowa by 25
Illinois by 25
Wisconsin by 12
 
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I'm excited over making the tournament over not making the tournament. It's possible to be disappointed in this season, but still excited to be in the tournament. We don't need a 'how the mighty have fallen' post everytime we talk about something positive.
Amen.
 
Looking at any team in isolation is pointless. Some years that resume would be miles away from the bubble, and some years that resume will get you into the tournament. It's all about comparison to others on the bubble. And there are lots of other metrics that matter. We have the best win of any bubble team @ MSU. We have 0 Q2, Q3 or Q4 losses.
This is exactly why OSU was a must-win game while ORE is a good-to-have-but-probably-not-necessary game. The @MSU game in particular travels well, as MSU hasn’t lost a game since then.
 
The reason for the low NET ranking is because of the spreads in these losses. Its bad....

Louisville by 28
Gonzaga by 16
Nebraska by 17
Iowa by 25
Illinois by 25
Wisconsin by 12
If IU had knocked 10 points off of each of those losing margins, they probably wouldn’t have to be worried about bid stealers.
 
Not counting potential low-D1 auto bids, IU has two wins against probable tourney teams. Not sure how that compares to other bubblers.
 
This is exactly why OSU was a must-win game while ORE is a good-to-have-but-probably-not-necessary game. The @MSU game in particular travels well, as MSU hasn’t lost a game since then.
But aside from that MSU game, we have only 3 other good wins. And Penn State and OSU are only Q1 wins because they were away games. True, no bad losses either but that's putting a lot of weight on 4 games. We need another quality win IMO.
 
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But aside from that MSU game, we have only 3 other good wins. And Penn State and OSU are only Q1 wins because they were away games. True, no bad losses either but that's putting a lot of weight on 4 games. We need another quality win IMO.
We certainly are no position to relax now, but we are in the good-to-have-but-probably-not-necessary stage, with “necessary” meaning lose and you’re definitely out.
 
But aside from that MSU game, we have only 3 other good wins. And Penn State and OSU are only Q1 wins because they were away games. True, no bad losses either but that's putting a lot of weight on 4 games. We need another quality win IMO.
On the other side of the coin, assuming We beat Oregon, and beat MSU a second time, will that be enough to move Us up the NCAA seeding line? In part that depends on what the Teams around Us on the seeding lines do. If a couple of those Teams lose in the first round of their Conference Tournaments, or get upset, or lose badly, maybe We can move up a line or two. You have to think that a second win against MSU will cover a lot of blemishes and have some effect on our Seeding.
 
I'm excited over making the tournament over not making the tournament. It's possible to be disappointed in this season, but still excited to be in the tournament. We don't need a 'how the mighty have fallen' post everytime we talk about something positive.
The young see IU basketball from a different perspective than that of the old. Once the current geezers of gray beards are dead and dusted, the tired "how the mighty have fallen" posts will no longer be heard. Patience, Grasshopper.
 
I'm excited over making the tournament over not making the tournament. It's possible to be disappointed in this season, but still excited to be in the tournament. We don't need a 'how the mighty have fallen' post everytime we talk about something positive.
Thank you. Now that Woodson is gone, I don’t really understand all the whining and negativity.
 
On the other side of the coin, assuming We beat Oregon, and beat MSU a second time, will that be enough to move Us up the NCAA seeding line? In part that depends on what the Teams around Us on the seeding lines do. If a couple of those Teams lose in the first round of their Conference Tournaments, or get upset, or lose badly, maybe We can move up a line or two. You have to think that a second win against MSU will cover a lot of blemishes and have some effect on our Seeding.
I don’t see how we beat MSU again. They are going to be out for blood.
 
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