Seems like Oregon is another must win game

[GeorgeStrait IU]

according to alot off of bracketmatrix. Even after IU's win ovef OSU, a good amount of them still have OSU higher than IU. This net thing has to be off somewhat. In the end only one bracket matters, but I have a hard time understanding OSU still being in over IU with IU sweeping them. Oh yeah, the NET ratings. 🤷‍♂️

Oregon is a must win.

 

[kkott]

according to alot off of bracketmatrix. Even after IU's win ovef OSU, a good amount of them still have OSU higher than IU. This net thing has to be off somewhat. In the end only one bracket matters, but I have a hard time understanding OSU still being in over IU with IU sweeping them. Oh yeah, the NET ratings. 🤷‍♂️

Oregon is a must win.

He's not coming back. You can relent and say something positive and not sweat it. Every bracketologist I've heard has them safely in. Not as many bid stealers this year and the folks in our "area" for the tourney all have weaker resumes. Weird, because isn't this essentially the same record as last year?

 

[GThomas]

"Safely in" if they finish 19-13? IU might get in, but nothing is safe with another loss to Oregon. Beat the Ducks and put this to bed.

 

[jopajackson]

according to alot off of bracketmatrix. Even after IU's win ovef OSU, a good amount of them still have OSU higher than IU. This net thing has to be off somewhat. In the end only one bracket matters, but I have a hard time understanding OSU still being in over IU with IU sweeping them. Oh yeah, the NET ratings. 🤷‍♂️

Oregon is a must win.

It would take lots of Bid Stealers to keep us out. Looking at most of the top rated Bracketologists we are somewhere near the bottom of the Last Four Byes or the top of Last Four In, which means it would take 4 or 5 bid thieves to keep us out. It is possible, but I certainly wouldn't call Oregon a 'must win'.

 

[edub72]

Just beat Oregon and avoid being left out and or the play in game in Dayton

 

[jopajackson]

Just beat Oregon and avoid being left out and or the play in game in Dayton

I would agree that beating Oregon would very likely keep us out of Dayton.

 

[GThomas]

A $10M payroll (HC, players) and we're having this "in or out" discussion. Pathetic.

 

[IUNorth]

according to alot off of bracketmatrix. Even after IU's win ovef OSU, a good amount of them still have OSU higher than IU. This net thing has to be off somewhat. In the end only one bracket matters, but I have a hard time understanding OSU still being in over IU with IU sweeping them. Oh yeah, the NET ratings. 🤷‍♂️

Oregon is a must win.

No its not. IU could miss out with a loss. Stranger things have happened. But them making it is much more likely, at this point.

 

[kkott]

"Safely in" if they finish 19-13? IU might get in, but nothing is safe with another loss to Oregon. Beat the Ducks and put this to bed.

I think both guys who do bracketology on Assembly Call have us in and Field of 68. Like I said, when you start looking around at the other teams in our area code (UNC, OSU, Wake, Xavier, etc....) we have better wins. Also fewer bid stealers this year it seems.

 

[IUNorth]

I think both guys who do bracketology on Assembly Call have us in and Field of 68. Like I said, when you start looking around at the other teams in our area code (UNC, OSU, Wake, Xavier, etc....) we have better wins. Also fewer bid stealers this year it seems.

There are still some bid stealers, but it does seem like less this year.

Obviously any of the major conferences (Big 12, Big 10, ACC, Big East, SEC)...if obvious at large teams don't win it, that's a bid stealer. But there are enough good, top end teams in each of those conferences, that its unlikely to get down to the 5,6,7th + place teams winning it. Which is what it would take. SEC it'd take 11th or 12th +, maybe Big 10 too... not gonna happen. Maybe ACC or Big East??...

Other conferences to keep an eye on though...

American Athletic... If Memphis doesn't win that tournament, that's a bid stealer.
West Coast... If Gonzaga or St Marys don't win that tournament, that's a bid stealer.
A10...If VCU doesn't win it, that is a bid stealer.
Mountain West... there are 3-4 teams currently in at large consideration, if one of those doesn't win it, that's a bid stealer.

There haven't been any other bid stealers win it thus far, and none of the other conferences have any at large candidates.

 

[Cavanagh]

Just beat Oregon and avoid being left out and or the play in game in Dayton

Hey do you want to try to get a win in this tourney or not? Leal in Dayton will get hell of ratings.

 

[Hatchets7times]

A $10M payroll (HC, players) and we're having this "in or out" discussion. Pathetic.

For that cash Indiana should have been Big Ten champions..A #1 seed ..And the betting favorite in Vegas to win it all.
But they hired Woodson..
And that's where it starts and stops.

 

[kkott]

There are still some bid stealers, but it does seem like less this year.

Obviously any of the major conferences (Big 12, Big 10, ACC, Big East, SEC)...if obvious at large teams don't win it, that's a bid stealer. But there are enough good, top end teams in each of those conferences, that its unlikely to get down to the 5,6,7th + place teams winning it. Which is what it would take. SEC it'd take 11th or 12th +, maybe Big 10 too... not gonna happen. Maybe ACC or Big East??...

Other conferences to keep an eye on though...

American Athletic... If Memphis doesn't win that tournament, that's a bid stealer.
West Coast... If Gonzaga or St Marys don't win that tournament, that's a bid stealer.
A10...If VCU doesn't win it, that is a bid stealer.
Mountain West... there are 3-4 teams currently in at large consideration, if one of those doesn't win it, that's a bid stealer.

There haven't been any other bid stealers win it thus far, and none of the other conferences have any at large candidates.

I'm sure there will be 1 maybe 2 surprises, but I think of bid stealers coming out of the smaller conferences like Big South or MVC and the regular season champ not winning the tourney, which didn't happen much at all. Super unlikely that a team not already in wins in the SEC, B10, ACC or Big East. I think we can weather 2 surprises. But obviously the easiest path is to beat OR. When has IU taken the easy path though?

 

[Bippy]

according to alot off of bracketmatrix. Even after IU's win ovef OSU, a good amount of them still have OSU higher than IU. This net thing has to be off somewhat. In the end only one bracket matters, but I have a hard time understanding OSU still being in over IU with IU sweeping them. Oh yeah, the NET ratings. 🤷‍♂️

Oregon is a must win.

They all are.
Even if we're "already in", getting a better seed is important.
And to think we're excited about making the Big Dance. How the mighty have fallen

 

[GThomas]

Just beat Oregon and avoid being left out and or the play in game in Dayton

I'm of the same mindset--a loss to Oregon means (A) Dayton or (B) end of season.

 

[Pryght]

Leal in Dayton will get hell of ratings.

A Leal vs. Tamar first weekend matchup would break viewing records.

 

[ndhuntington]

I think a loss to Oregon were still in unless something happends this week where there is major upset. Most have us as a 11 on the first bye a loss could put us in the first 4 games at Dayton. A win over Oregon puts us solidly in a couple wins maybe gets us a 10 seed.

 

[jopajackson]

They all are.
Even if we're "already in", getting a better seed is important.
And to think we're excited about making the Big Dance. How the mighty have fallen

I'm excited over making the tournament over not making the tournament. It's possible to be disappointed in this season, but still excited to be in the tournament. We don't need a 'how the mighty have fallen' post everytime we talk about something positive.

 

[GThomas]

Per ESPN...
4-10 vs. Top 50
11-12 vs. Top 100

Lock, you say?

 

[jopajackson]

Per ESPN...
4-10 vs. Top 50
11-12 vs. Top 100

Lock, you say?

Looking at any team in isolation is pointless. Some years that resume would be miles away from the bubble, and some years that resume will get you into the tournament. It's all about comparison to others on the bubble. And there are lots of other metrics that matter. We have the best win of any bubble team @ MSU. We have 0 Q2, Q3 or Q4 losses.

 

[GThomas]

Looking at any team in isolation is pointless. Some years that resume would be miles away from the bubble, and some years that resume will get you into the tournament. It's all about comparison to others on the bubble. And there are lots of other metrics that matter. We have the best win of any bubble team @ MSU. We have 0 Q2, Q3 or Q4 losses.

All true, but it doesn't equate to a lock. All I'm saying.

 

[YOTHN]

according to alot off of bracketmatrix. Even after IU's win ovef OSU, a good amount of them still have OSU higher than IU. This net thing has to be off somewhat. In the end only one bracket matters, but I have a hard time understanding OSU still being in over IU with IU sweeping them. Oh yeah, the NET ratings. 🤷‍♂️

Oregon is a must win.

The reason for the low NET ranking is because of the spreads in these losses. Its bad....

Louisville by 28
Gonzaga by 16
Nebraska by 17
Iowa by 25
Illinois by 25
Wisconsin by 12

 

[jopajackson]

All true, but it doesn't equate to a lock. All I'm saying.

I agree we are definitely not a lock.

 

[BabyHoop]

I'm excited over making the tournament over not making the tournament. It's possible to be disappointed in this season, but still excited to be in the tournament. We don't need a 'how the mighty have fallen' post everytime we talk about something positive.

THANK YOU for saying this.

 

[asindc]

I'm excited over making the tournament over not making the tournament. It's possible to be disappointed in this season, but still excited to be in the tournament. We don't need a 'how the mighty have fallen' post everytime we talk about something positive.

Amen.