SCOTUS ruling VA
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There goes Goat again, getting all hysterical about minor shit like the right to vote.
Me either. The only argument I ever hear is that it requires a person to do something. You have to have an ID for many thinngs.
Bingo....it's not complicated but the voter has some responsibility.
I don't believe that at all. I just want to make sure that they are legal and I don't think it is that hard.
It happened when he started disagreeing with some on the left. 🤣
No smiley face required. That's true.
I really thought when we discussed Braver Angels way back and I mentioned Bloomington could not bring in more Ds because there are not enough Rs so I couldn't join, you made a comment about being an R. Sorry if wrong.
I've never been a Republican. But I haven't identified as a Democrat since 1992.
Seriously - do you think anyone believes you?
Of course. I've been on these forums for decades, as several others have, as well. You were still in diapers when we were having our best discussions.
Until 2016 I would have considered being a Democrat as an insult. I have a long grudge against the party, I have always voted for the insurgency and haven't been happy with the thumb on the scale by the party. That was until the Republican party jumped the shark in 16. They replaced the Democratic party was the worst organization in America by my ratings. So I am forced to be a D because the alternative is unimaginable.
I actually think the Democratic party has been going downhill since at least 2012. And yet, I agree with you that the GOP has at least lapped them as the worst possible party.
Such a sad state of affairs in this country. Even worse, none of the alternatives are reasonable. Smart people can't be Green or Libertarian.
And Independent just means you're a wimp.
That's why I'm strongly leaning toward becoming a Monarchist.
That's because you're stupid.
So, who do we want for the monarchy? Jr has convinced me the Kennedy family is out. How about the Mannings?
I think they'd do a hell of a job. Hard working. Class individuals (unless you count Manning putting his balls on the female trainer at UT). Winners.
It doesn't honestly matter. Probably shouldn't be an American, though. Get a cadet branch from a European family. How about Harry?
Got it.
To hell with voters.
Elites rule!
Gimmie more George Clooney and Julia Roberts.
Better idea, Cignetti. Anyone turning around IU football in 1 season can balance the budget and get Russia back to their borders in 3 months.
Cig could win Governor of Indiana as a write-in if he announced today he's running.
The man is a miracle worker.
Huh? Care to flesh that thought out a little bit? Because from here, it looks like utter nonsense.
There are those who think that way. One guy on this favor says to hell with voters, return the Senate to appointment by the elite
No way I would take Harry. It seems the spares are particularly poor choices, given the fact the heirs are not good choices that is really something
That is still in the hands on the voters. It places a larger emphasis on who you vote into your state legislature who are much more accessible than your U.S. Senator. It was a brilliant concept.
Emphasis on National Politics is every thing wrong today. Democracy is a tool. A useful one. Not a goal in and of itself.
Tell me Marv. When you think of the “elites” do you think of your local State Rep?
Seriously? Trump is the first president of the modern era chosen by the people, not the party, not the rulers, not the lobbyists, not the influenceers, not the elitetes, not superdelegates—the voters. Contrast that to how and why Kamala is on the ballot.
The sad part is those who reject the voters choice and I guess want “The Republican Party” to reject their own voters.
CFFN, you are so right.
State and local governments are where dealing with education and crime are.
Not to mention streets/pot holes, sidewalks, highways, garbage collection, voting, mental health. local ordinances, zoning, nursing homes, attracting employers, air and wster pollution, local and state taxes, traffic laws/enforcement, and the list goes on.
I thought a few mistakes were ok?I think a more informed electorate would be great. The example in the article involved a weekend of discussing issues. What percentage of Americans would commit to that? How many would have time to do that way from other activities? So we really would have a weekend of the political class at this event. Would that make the people convinced we are run by elites less convinced elites run us? How often would it need to happen, yearly? Would it largely just be people who can afford to go to another city and stay overnight?
I think that article has a great deal of merit, but I can't see how it replaces trying to get people to vote. If people don't care enough to vote, they won't attend. That won't move them any closer. I cannot imagine the Bernie Bros or ardent Trump supporters wanting to take part in something like that. It seems those groups view the middle as more the enemy than the "other" side (a Trotsky belief that people who urge compromise are the true enemies of believers).
So maybe they were careful and brought in the extremes in their trial. Or maybe the people who were willing to go were self-selected and thus more willing to listen.
The advocacy groups quoted Prince William County Registrar Eric Olsen, who said at an election board meeting Sept. 30 that his office reviewed 162 people listed as noncitizens in the state’s computer system and found that 43 had voted before. But his office checked and found that all 43 had verified their citizenship − some as many as five times − but were still dropped from voter rolls.A Trump supporter who was purged from the rolls told Cardinal News that he suspects he forgot to mark his citizenship status on the Virginia Department of Motor Vehicles form when he renewed his driver’s license.Another voter, who showed NPR her passport, said she doesn’t know why the DMV incorrectly recorded her as a noncitizen.
Supreme Court lets Virginia resume its purge of voter rolls before the election
Over the objection of the three liberal justices, the Supreme Court allowed Virginia to continue purging people from its voter rolls.www.usatoday.com
U.S. Senators became LESS accountable after the 17th, not more. If you were unhappy with your U.S. Senator you could round up the neighborhood and go knock on your local state Reps door and tell them they bet better get him/ her out or it’s their ass.
It narrows and localizes the focus where it should be. As it stands today all a U.S. Senator has to do in most states is win their statewide primary. They could conceivably only be liked by a plurality of their own party and it will still be enough. Once more, making Senators accountable to state legislatures helps state legislatures retain power.
Our politics are completely inverted and the 17th played a large part in that. The most clear evidence is that every single American pays more in Federal taxes than state. It should be the opposite.
Chicago, state and local taxes tend to be more regressive than say the progressive federal income tax.
State and local taxes include sales, property, and user taxes which in most cases are impossible to escape.
On the federal level most workers find money coming out of their paycheck for Medicare and Social Security.
Often argued our total government taxation system which includes federal, state, and local government is actually fairly equitable for the rich and less affluent when you take into consideration the progressive federal income taxes and the regressive state/local taxes.
