SCOTUS doxxed and at home protests are coming...

[bawlmer]

The best I've noticed here, there is ONE "radical" pro lifer and even he admitted that there is room for negotiation.
He calmly, as an adult, stated his personal preference and why, and then agreed to something that should be a nice middle ground, for anyone on the opposite position that wasn't just a simple fascist in pussy clothing.

I've not not been reading everything here close enough to know your reference, but generally i think you hit on a good point. Pro-choice advocates have been too dismissive of any other positions (i know women who wanted to join the pussy hat march but were excluded due to an abortion litmus test).

Now they need to realize this is a state election issue, but they're distracted with protests and revenge votes.

 

[Stuffshot]

It depends on the issue. I won't be protesting the abortion decision. I should have attended anti-Iraq War protests (but sadly I didn't realize how wrong we were until it was way too late). If someone held a rally to fund a Mars mission, I'd be there.

But that is part of the problem. If people in the more moderate ranges spoke up more, the parties would have to consider them. That would mean turning out to vote, showing up to rallies, volunteering, and giving money. I don't think I've volunteered for a political campaign since 1984. I have given a few dollars but generally find charities more worthy than politicians. So part of what is happening is my own fault for not showing up. I suspect most of us in the middle share that same blame.

If people in the more moderate ranges spoke up more, they'd probably get labeled as extremists anyway.

 

[HoosierJimbo89]

I've not not been reading everything here close enough to know your reference, but generally i think you hit on a good point. Pro-choice advocates have been too dismissive of any other positions (i know women who wanted to join the pussy hat march but were excluded due to an abortion litmus test).

Now they need to realize this is a state election issue, but they're distracted with protests and revenge votes.

You want to see nutty protests? Check out pro-lifers killing doctors and others, destroying property, and engaging in terrorism. By the way: how can one be pro-life and murder somebody?

Anti-abortion violence - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

 

[zeke4ahs]

She's way off on Giffords. Two seconds with Google would prove that. Zeke's selling the Sarah Palin Target nonsense that the board's resident airhead lefty cheerleader was trying to allude to up above (someone who I have just decided to stop responding to).

What? Nothing to do with Sarah Palin. why would you assume so. . ? She was a political target so explain to me the difference? How exactly am I way off?

 

[zeke4ahs]

I know. I just wanted her to have to research and learn that her example of Giffords was incorrect.

Please explain in what way. It had nothing to do with Sarah Palin, but you two geniuses think you can read minds. So how exactly is one politically motivated shooting different than the other. .

 

[IUCrazy2]

What? Nothing to do with Sarah Palin. why would you assume so. . ? She was a political target so explain to me the difference? How exactly am I way off?

I can go with a political target possibly since it appears Loughner shot her based on feeling snubbed at a Q&A session with her at some point before the attack. However, I don't think the political-ness of it would fall anywhere on the left/right spectrum we normally discuss here. And you were kind of responding to a "when did the right do this" post. Loughner wasn't right (or left for that matter )

I think Loughner was a troubled dude. He could have been set off at a comic book convention if he got a bad answer from Benedict Cumberbatch about the latest Dr. Strange movie.

 

[zeke4ahs]

What are you trying to say? All I get out this is that some people who aren't aborted become criminals. Is that your point?

What were you trying to say? All I got was that protestors were not aborted. Is that supposed to be a deep thought provoking post?

 

[Stuffshot]

Does this one count?

Did Armed Trump Supporters Harass Biden Campaign Bus in Texas?

The Alamo City Trump Train Facebook Group was used to organize the convoy's movements.

www.snopes.com

 

[Stuffshot]

Doing the protest at someone's house is a threat and would therefore be attempting to influence the decision. I can pull all sorts of threats that have been made from a U.S. Senator (Schumer's comments about Gorsuch and Kavanaugh) on down.

It isn't even an implied threat at this point.

I agree, and I hope you agree that crowds harassing someone at a restaurant or on a highway is also a threat.

Did Armed Trump Supporters Harass Biden Campaign Bus in Texas?

The Alamo City Trump Train Facebook Group was used to organize the convoy's movements.

www.snopes.com

 

[Stuffshot]

The true sign of intelligence is an ad hominem attack instead of debating an issue, correct?

Give him credit though -- he avoided Godwin's Law, surely without thinking about it (for the obvious reason).

 

[Aloha Hoosier]

Don't you think it's the radicals who protest. I can barely think of an issue that would get me out on a street with a sign

I’m also not a fan of protestors.

 

[UncleMark]

Give him credit though -- he avoided Godwin's Law, surely without thinking about it (for the obvious reason).

Godwin is not recognized here, otherwise there are several who wouldn't be able to show their faces.

 

[Stuffshot]

Godwin is not recognized here, otherwise there are several who wouldn't be able to show their faces.

It's that short moustache that always gives them away, isn't it?

 

[Aloha Hoosier]

Recall Gabby Giffords? Recall the Dems who got white powder sent to their homes?

Republicans also received “white powder” (suspected Anthrax) in the mail too.

 

[Aloha Hoosier]

Loughner was not a conservative. He at one point held far left views according to friends but the reality is he was just a nut.

To go a bit further, there was no link at all to the political target ad. The dude probably didn’t even see it. Also, political “target” ads weren’t unique. After that shooting I found and linked other ads, Democrat and Republican, that used “target” images in them.

 

[Aloha Hoosier]

Is it ok if strangers come up to you and check out your penis and testicles? Do you want to go to Bloomington and ask 18-22 year old coeds what is going on inside of their pussies and if we can give their pussies a full inspection for any potential lives?

I thought we established and agreed that pro-life stances aren’t about vaginas.

 

[ribbont]

Does this one count?

Did Armed Trump Supporters Harass Biden Campaign Bus in Texas?

The Alamo City Trump Train Facebook Group was used to organize the convoy's movements.

www.snopes.com

Yeah that was over the top. I think doxxing home addresses is worse and I am sure right wing kooks have done it. I just don't recall it happening to any dem in congress or left leaning SCOTUS judge. Maybe it has and I missed it.

 

[IUCrazy2]

To go a bit further, there was no link at all to the political target ad. The dude probably didn’t even see it. Also, political “target” ads weren’t unique. After that shooting I found and linked other ads, Democrat and Republican, that used “target” images in them.

Yeah the target thing was a streeeeeeetch.

 

[Aloha Hoosier]

What? Nothing to do with Sarah Palin. why would you assume so. . ? She was a political target so explain to me the difference? How exactly am I way off?

You’re way off because there was no link between that ad and her shooting. Did you miss Palin’s defamation trial against the NYT. She lost, but it was established in that trial that there was zero evidence that the ad inspired the nut that shot Giffords. The guy likely never even saw it. Also, Democrats also used similar “target” political ads as I found and linked after that shooting.

 

[ribbont]

Please explain in what way. It had nothing to do with Sarah Palin, but you two geniuses think you can read minds. So how exactly is one politically motivated shooting different than the other. .

Scalise was shot by someone who hated Pubs. Giffords was not.

But I should not have included him in my original list of doxxed people on a national level. Scalise was not doxxed. Hawley and McConnell were.

 

[bawlmer]

You want to see nutty protests? Check out pro-lifers killing doctors and others, destroying property, and engaging in terrorism. By the way: how can one be pro-life and murder somebody?

Anti-abortion violence - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

Abortion rights advocates have a messaging advantage right now by arguing the Alito draft goes way beyond a reasonable person's interpretation of when life begins. But I'll bet they blow it with over the top actions that portray their side as radical.

 

[Stuffshot]

Scalise was shot by someone who hated Pubs. Giffords was not.

But I should not have included him in my original list of doxxed people on a national level. Scalise was not doxxed. Hawley and McConnell were.

I think McConnell was restauranted, too (by protesters, not employees of the restaurant).

I may be wrong, but I don't think he stopped eating and, instead, let his wife scold the protestors. After all, he has a rich man's jowl to maintain and needs a daily minimum of fat calories.

 

[brianiu]

In addition to the invasion of privacy issue, I can’t imagine that showing up at someone’s house and demanding they do what you want would make them more inclined to change their mind.

 

[ribbont]

I think McConnell was restauranted, too (by protesters, not employees of the restaurant).

I may be wrong, but I don't think he stopped eating and, instead, let his wife scold the protestors. After all, he has a rich man's jowl to maintain and needs a daily minimum of fat calories.

Has a dem been "restauranted"?

 

[UncleMark]

I think McConnell was restauranted, too (by protesters, not employees of the restaurant).

Has a dem been "restauranted"?

So if Huckabee Sanders and Mitch and the like are all "restauranted" while Dems are not, why can't it be because the Pubs are more despicable than the Dems? Why assume it's only because the Pubs are better behaved?

 

[Bulk VanderHuge]

I'm blind to the cause; only the protest

Even this one?

 

[ribbont]

So if Huckabee Sanders and Mitch and the like are all "restauranted" while Dems are not, why can't it be because the Pubs are more despicable than the Dems? Why assume it's only because the Pubs are better behaved?

Because they were just eating. Simply eating does not make one despicable.

 

[cosmickid]

She's way off on Giffords. Two seconds with Google would prove that. Zeke's selling the Sarah Palin Target nonsense that the board's resident airhead lefty cheerleader was trying to allude to up above (someone who I have just decided to stop responding to).

Did you actually spend "two seconds with google", or just rely on regurgitated nonsense and pretend it had some basis in fact?

So what is the evidence that Loughner was a "leftist"? A high school friend making that claim, and the fact that in addition to Mein Kampf, his reading list included Communist Manifesto? Exactly which of those two should take precedence as being characterized as his preference? My high school friends would characterize me as a Nixonian Republican, so obviously things change...

Let's look at some of his facebook posts, leading up to the shooting...Posts decrying "currency not backed by gold", "mind control thru controlling grammar". Either of those sound like someone who identifies with Marx? Add in the idea that the "Federal Reserve is a Jewish plot", 911 was an inside job, and that the Moon landing was a fake, and you essentially have a primer for the Patriot movement. He likely fancied himself a successor to Tim McVeigh...

There's just enough ambiguity in his history (he was a registered Independent) to cast some doubt on any absolutist definition,. But his recent history up until the shooting suggested he was far more likely tied to the anti-Govt Right, than any left leaning justice warrior. Let's say he hadn't committed mass murder and ended up voting in 2016, which candidate do you honestly feel he'd have been more likely to support?

Jared Loughner: Far left or far right?

Liberals and conservatives are trying to place the alleged Arizona shooter in each others' camp. Which side has the stronger argument?

theweek.com

 

[mcmurtry66]

Even this one?

I love him

 

[Indianaftw]

SIAP

BTW anyone think its ok to protest in front of these judges homes. And BTW Lightfoot should be fully prosecuted for inciting.

18 US Code 1507

Whoever, with the intent of interfering with, obstructing, or impeding the administration of justice, or with the intent of influencing any judge, juror, witness, or court officer, in the discharge of his duty, pickets or parades in or near a building housing a court of the United States, or in or near a building or residence occupied or used by such judge, juror, witness, or court officer, or with such intent uses any sound-truck or similar device or resorts to any other demonstration in or near any such building or residence, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than one year, or both.


Nothing in this section shall interfere with or prevent the exercise by any court of the United States of its power to punish for contempt.

 

[HoosierJimbo89]

SIAP

BTW anyone think its ok to protest in front of these judges homes. And BTW Lightfoot should be fully prosecuted for inciting.

18 US Code 1507

Whoever, with the intent of interfering with, obstructing, or impeding the administration of justice, or with the intent of influencing any judge, juror, witness, or court officer, in the discharge of his duty, pickets or parades in or near a building housing a court of the United States, or in or near a building or residence occupied or used by such judge, juror, witness, or court officer, or with such intent uses any sound-truck or similar device or resorts to any other demonstration in or near any such building or residence, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than one year, or both.


Nothing in this section shall interfere with or prevent the exercise by any court of the United States of its power to punish for contempt.

We've already been over this: 1A.

 

[Indianaftw]

We've already been over this: 1A.

I siap-ed

 

[cosmickid]

Has a dem been "restauranted"?

Because they were just eating. Simply eating does not make one despicable.

It's amazing the bubble the right-leaning posters on this board seem to live in .The reality is that it's impossible to come up with an example of any of these tactics from the left that you abhor, that didn't originate with the right. It's impossible, because that type of political extremism did not exist prior to Joe McCarthy, but some of you insist on living in denial...

I know you don't like me, and I wasn't really directing this comment specifically towards you. But the idea that the same people who had no problem with wing nut people (who in many instances didn't even have school aged kids) verbally harassing, sending threatening emails and letters, and threatening the families and even kids of freaking school board members/teachers over really silly things like masks and yet are outraged (and ridiculously lacking in self-awareness) in this moronic thread is truly mind blowing...

And yes, Dems have been "restauranted"... How could that even be a legitimate question when you have something like 30% of GOP voters saying they agree with QAnon?

 

[Crayfish57]

It's amazing the bubble the right-leaning posters on this board seem to live in .The reality is that it's impossible to come up with an example of any of these tactics from the left that you abhor, that didn't originate with the right. It's impossible, because that type of political extremism did not exist prior to Joe McCarthy, but some of you insist on living in denial...

I know you don't like me, and I wasn't really directing this comment specifically towards you. But the idea that the same people who had no problem with wing nut people (who in many instances didn't even have school aged kids) verbally harassing, sending threatening emails and letters, and threatening the families and even kids of freaking school board members/teachers over really silly things like masks and yet are outraged (and ridiculously lacking in self-awareness) in this moronic thread is truly mind blowing...

And yes, Dems have been "restauranted"... How could that even be a legitimate question when you have something like 30% of GOP voters saying they agree with QAnon?

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[anon_mya1phvcpf5x4]

Good lord man........

Hate being confronted with the truth?

 

[ribbont]

It's amazing the bubble the right-leaning posters on this board seem to live in .The reality is that it's impossible to come up with an example of any of these tactics from the left that you abhor, that didn't originate with the right. It's impossible, because that type of political extremism did not exist prior to Joe McCarthy, but some of you insist on living in denial...

I know you don't like me, and I wasn't really directing this comment specifically towards you. But the idea that the same people who had no problem with wing nut people (who in many instances didn't even have school aged kids) verbally harassing, sending threatening emails and letters, and threatening the families and even kids of freaking school board members/teachers over really silly things like masks and yet are outraged (and ridiculously lacking in self-awareness) in this moronic thread is truly mind blowing...

And yes, Dems have been "restauranted"... How could that even be a legitimate question when you have something like 30% of GOP voters saying they agree with QAnon?

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I am pretty amazed the bubble left leaning posters. I have a tactic for you: did the Pubs ever use a fake dossier to push a Russian collusion narrative that didn't exist?

Look, both sides suck and do despicable things. Your video about the NV gov is despicable and I condemn those actions.

And I should not have said I don't like you. I've never met you. But your posts suck. And not only because the are sooooooo long. But you just try to beat the other side down to prove how right you are and to make yourself superior. You don't discuss and have no interest in understanding others' perspectives.

Hell, you just blamed every single negative political tactic on the right. That is asinine. But you are so determined to show how bad Pubs are, you are willing to lose all credibility and post an asinine statement.

Not to mention that you come across as a 5 year old yelling: "But you did it first! You did it first!" - as if that justifies the actions by you opponents.

 

[Bulk VanderHuge]

I am pretty amazed the bubble left leaning posters. I have a tactic for you: did the Pubs ever use a fake dossier to push a Russian collusion narrative that didn't exist?

Look, both sides suck and do despicable things. Your video about the NV gov is despicable and I condemn those actions.

And I should not have said I don't like you. I've never met you. But your posts suck. And not only because the are sooooooo long. But you just try to beat the other side down to prove how right you are and to make yourself superior. You don't discuss and have no interest in understanding others' perspectives.

Hell, you just blamed every single negative political tactic on the right. That is asinine. But you are so determined to show how bad Pubs are, you are willing to lose all credibility and post an asinine statement.

Not to mention that you come across as a 5 year old yelling: "But you did it first! You did it first!" - as if that justifies the actions by you opponents.

So, what conservatives put up posts that suck, using your criteria? Or, are you not allowed to break rank? Go on…I won’t tell.

 

[Crayfish57]

Hate being confronted with the truth?

I know the truth is you are an idiot every time you post. It does get tiring.

 

[ribbont]

So, what conservatives put up posts that suck, using your criteria? Or, are you not allowed to break rank? Go on…I won’t tell.

Lucy doesn't post much in depth content. Cray and indianaftw get a little to combative for my taste. COH has has some TLDR posts. But I find Cosmic's posts to consistently be a book of links and videos just trying to prove how right he is. Maybe he's changed as I haven't read any of his stuff lately. Only did this time as he replied to me and I did ask a question he was able to answer for me.

 

[Bulk VanderHuge]

Lucy doesn't post much in depth content. Cray and indianaftw get a little to combative for my taste. COH has has some TLDR posts. But I find Cosmic's posts to consistently be a book of links and videos just trying to prove how right he is. Maybe he's changed as I haven't read any of his stuff lately. Only did this time as he replied to me and I did ask a question he was able to answer for me.

I retract my objection, and hold out my virtual hand for a virtual handshake.