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SCOTUS doxxed and at home protests are coming...

This statute deals with criminal obstruction of justice, which requires a guilty act and guilty intent. There is also the 1st Amendment, which complicates things. I think if protestors do it the right way without breaking any laws and comply with the 1st Amendment, then a protest at somebody's house would be legal: not saying it is the best way to protest. Saying "I support Roe" is a lot different than "if you overturn Roe, I'll break your legs."
Doing the protest at someone's house is a threat and would therefore be attempting to influence the decision. I can pull all sorts of threats that have been made from a U.S. Senator (Schumer's comments about Gorsuch and Kavanaugh) on down.

It isn't even an implied threat at this point.
 
Doing the protest at someone's house is a threat and would therefore be attempting to influence the decision. I can pull all sorts of threats that have been made from a U.S. Senator (Schumer's comments about Gorsuch and Kavanaugh) on down.

It isn't even an implied threat at this point.
Are you also trying to say that any protest that has occurred outside of a courthouse is obstruction of justice? SCOTUS has said that government buildings like courthouses are classic areas for the exercise of the 1A. The message matters, and simply showing up somewhere is not a message: actual obstruction with the intent to do so has to occur.
 
Are you also trying to say that any protest that has occurred outside of a courthouse is obstruction of justice? SCOTUS has said that government buildings like courthouses are classic areas for the exercise of the 1A. The message matters, and simply showing up somewhere is not a message: actual obstruction with the intent to do so has to occur.
I have said repeatedly that I am mostly talking about their private residences. I believe that there is a line also when at the courthouses as well. Holding signs and yelling does not cross that line. Other things could.
 
I have said repeatedly that I am mostly talking about their private residences. I believe that there is a line also when at the courthouses as well. Holding signs and yelling does not cross that line. Other things could.
The statute you cited includes courthouses, and jurors and judges spend a lot of time there as well. Thus, just showing up somewhere and protesting doesn't equal obstruction of justice or "crossing the line." Agreed.
 
Can you recall any right wing groups doxxing liberals and/or protesting at their homes? I know it happened to Hawley, McConnell, Cruz, Scalise (shot at ball fields).

I remember GOP ads with gun targets on dem politicians or pretending like they are shooting dem politicians...

is that ok?
 
It is interesting that each protestor will be a person who escaped being aborted.
How is that interesting? For example everyone in jail sequestered of heinous crimes escaped being aborted too.
 
I agree. I’m actually quite envious of protesters. I don’t care enough about anything to give a weekend to stand outside with a sign. Must be something to be passionate about s
I agree. I’m actually quite envious of protesters. I don’t care enough about anything to give a weekend to stand outside with a sign. Must be something to be passionate about something.
It’s a little easier to be passionate about something that directly affects you. For example if men were required to have vasectomies at the age of 16 or so… Women have known this was coming since 2016 and is a large reason they have been protesting since then. ( some women, not all. Trying to make sure people don’t think I’m speaking for all women so will add addendums) Did you see one state has a bill now that would make IUD’s illegal? People told us we were silly to worry about Roe V Wade. Supreme Court Justices lied, and here we are. Oh also some states want to put both doctors and women in jail if they cross state lines for abortions. The protests are just starting. But no, they should not be going to people’s homes.
 
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Do school board members count?

Jennifer Jenkins (Brevard Co)...


Harassing her children...


Here is a story from Sarasota, and the protests against Shirley Brown at her home. Unfortunately, it's behind a pay wall...


Then there are all the "Big Lie" proponents targeting election workers...

62 yr old fill in election worker Ruby Freeman had to flee her own home due to Trumper threats in GA. She was DOXXED by Donald Trump- so not willing to feel any empathy for others being "doxxed" by the Left. There's a video of a pro-Trump "official" (connected to Kanye West) coming to her house and threatening to arrest her if she didn't confess to her "crimes"...

Fortunately she and her daughter sued the Gateway Pundit, and won a huge settlement...


So in answer to your question, there are Multiple examples. And dating back to the Obama years, I'm guessing that this type of harassment originated on the Right, rather than on the Left... Just like the whole issue of cancel culture itself... (see Dixie Chicks) and even father back into the Clinton years...

Thanks for the info. I know doxxing originated from the right. All bad things do. Dems are angels.
 
I remember GOP ads with gun targets on dem politicians or pretending like they are shooting dem politicians...

is that ok?

I don't know. I need to see the ad and not rely on your description.

I guess Pubs may talk about it, but Dems actually shot a Pub in Scalise.
 
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The statute you cited includes courthouses, and jurors and judges spend a lot of time there as well. Thus, just showing up somewhere and protesting doesn't equal obstruction of justice or "crossing the line." Agreed.
Location matters to me though. Showing up at the courthouse to do the protest is centered on the job. Showing up at the house crosses a line, it moves over into the personal space. I don't believe we want to make a habit of having the most, let's say excited, people showing up at officials residences to protest. I think it is an implied threat.
 
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It’s a little easier to be passionate about something that directly affects you. For example if men were required to have vasectomies at the age of 16 or so… Women have known this was coming since 2016 and is a large reason they have been protesting since then. ( some women, not all. Trying to make sure people don’t think I’m speaking for all women so will add addendums) Did you see one state has a bill now that would make IUD’s illegal? People told us we were silly to worry about Roe V Wade. Supreme Court Justices lied, and here we are. Oh also some states want to put both doctors and women in jail if they cross state lines for abortions. The protests are just starting. But no, they should not be going to people’s homes.
JFC You are just crazy .......... again all of this can be stopped by just not having sex. I say it every time and we all know none of this has to do with rape and incest. Men should be just as responsible but no one just ''catches'' being pregnant. So how do you feel id a first time abortion is free but the woman , and the man if he can be found both get sterilized so it cant happen again?
 
Location matters to me though. Showing up at the courthouse to do the protest is centered on the job. Showing up at the house crosses a line, it moves over into the personal space. I don't believe we want to make a habit of having the most, let's say excited, people showing up at officials residences to protest. I think it is an implied threat.
If the area is public and they aren't breaking any laws, there isn't much anybody can say about it. People's property rights only extend to their private property. Is it a tad intense? Sure. Is there an implied threat? I wouldn't go that far.

Are you admitting personal spaces, like vaginas, exist and are private? There are certainly some excited individuals concerning themselves with those spaces.
 
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I hope that the people who are (rightfully) outraged at the thought of protestors getting in justice's faces outside their homes and disrupting their family life were equally outraged at all of the death threats and hate directed at Dr. Fauci and his family, to the extent that they had to have round-the-clock security. Both right-wing nutjobs and left-wing nutjobs need to display some common sense & human decency.
 
If the area is public and they aren't breaking any laws, there isn't much anybody can say about it. People's property rights only extend to their private property. Is it a tad intense? Sure. Is there an implied threat? I wouldn't go that far.

Are you admitting personal spaces, like vaginas, exist and are private?
You need to look into groups like Ruth Sent Us. The threat is there and implied.

Vaginas exist? Who knew? If you are trying to make an abortion point you are probably looking for uteruses though. And I will just head off going down the rest of this path by saying that there are 2 private bodies involved in the discussion and we aren't going to agree from there.
 
I hope that the people who are (rightfully) outraged at the thought of protestors getting in justice's faces outside their homes and disrupting their family life were equally outraged at all of the death threats and hate directed at Dr. Fauci and his family, to the extent that they had to have round-the-clock security. Both right-wing nutjobs and left-wing nutjobs need to display some common sense & human decency.
That is not right either.

I think Fauci handled COVID terribly and is more interested in his personal stature than he is public health, but he should be allowed to be a dumbass in peace at home or out at a restaurant or what have you.
 
You need to look into groups like Ruth Sent Us. The threat is there and implied.

Vaginas exist? Who knew? If you are trying to make an abortion point you are probably looking for uteruses though. And I will just head off going down the rest of this path by saying that there are 2 private bodies involved in the discussion and we aren't going to agree from there.
You admitted that there are personal, private spaces, and you appear to be very concerned about others, especially excited individuals, violating these personal, private spaces. You said a line had been crossed when others violate these personal, private spaces. You just admitted that the other half of the Roe v. Wade debate was valid.

Just imagine how women feel about their vaginas.
 
You admitted that there are personal, private spaces, and you appear to be very concerned about others, especially excited individuals, violating these personal, private spaces. You said a line had been crossed when others violate these personal, private spaces. You just admitted that the other half of the Roe v. Wade debate was valid.

Just imagine how women feel about their vaginas.
It is kind of funny how you resemble the intelligence of your avatar but think you are smarter somehow.
 
I don't know. I need to see the ad and not rely on your description.

I guess Pubs may talk about it, but Dems actually shot a Pub in Scalise.
Recall Gabby Giffords? Recall the Dems who got white powder sent to their homes?
 
You admitted that there are personal, private spaces, and you appear to be very concerned about others, especially excited individuals, violating these personal, private spaces. You said a line had been crossed when others violate these personal, private spaces. You just admitted that the other half of the Roe v. Wade debate was valid.

Just imagine how women feel about their vaginas.
Yeah, not doing this. I will put you down as protests are ok in front of houses. Noted. You guys should be paying attention to the fact that the conservative movement is going reactionary. They are getting more activist and they have watched how Democratic activists have behaved for decades.

I think personal residences should not be fair game. However, I will not accept that conservative residences are fair game while liberals are not. So if the rules are that we can harass public officials wherever they may be, so be it.

And again, uterus, not vagina.
 
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Recall Gabby Giffords? Recall the Dems who got white powder sent to their homes?
Loughner was not a conservative. He at one point held far left views according to friends but the reality is he was just a nut.
 
Yeah, not doing this. I will put you down as protests are ok in front of houses. Noted. You guys should be paying attention to the fact that the conservative movement is going reactionary. They are getting more activist and they have watched how Democratic activists have behaved for decades.

I think personal residences should not be fair game. However, I will not accept that conservative residences are fair game while liberals are not. So if the rules are that we can harass public officials wherever they may be, so be it.

And again, uterus, not vagina.
I think we both agree that there are personal, private spaces that other people, especially excited individuals, should not invade, and that an invasion of a person's private spaces crosses the line.
 
I think we both agree that there are personal, private spaces that other people, especially excited individuals, should not invade, and that an invasion of a person's private spaces crosses the line.
Sure, unless you are trying to do something like save a life. Like in a fire or some other things.
 
Sure, unless you are trying to do something like save a life. Like in a fire or some other things.
Is it ok if strangers come up to you and check out your penis and testicles? Do you want to go to Bloomington and ask 18-22 year old coeds what is going on inside of their pussies and if we can give their pussies a full inspection for any potential lives?
 
I don't know. I need to see the ad and not rely on your description.

I guess Pubs may talk about it, but Dems actually shot a Pub in Scalise.

Here is one example of many


Did dem politicians do anything that led to the attack on scalise? If not then that is not comparable.

You can't blame a party on what any possible supporter may do. But if a politician is instigating it then that is appalling. They should be held to a higher standard
 
She's way off on Giffords. Two seconds with Google would prove that. Zeke's selling the Sarah Palin Target nonsense that the board's resident airhead lefty cheerleader was trying to allude to up above (someone who I have just decided to stop responding to).

I know. I just wanted her to have to research and learn that her example of Giffords was incorrect.
 
Is it ok if strangers come up to you and check out your penis and testicles? Do you want to go to Bloomington and ask 18-22 year old coeds what is going on inside of their pussies and if we can give their pussies a full inspection for any potential lives?
It could be a good public service, and remember. It only has to work 1 out of 10 times to be a success.
 
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Here is one example of many


Did dem politicians do anything that led to the attack on scalise? If not then that is not comparable.

You can't blame a party on what any possible supporter may do. But if a politician is instigating it then that is appalling. They should be held to a higher standard

Lol. That was a satirical ad. Nobody is going to take that as a call for action.

As for Scalise, we will never know if anything inspired the guy. He died. But it was found: He belonged to numerous political Facebook groups, including those named "Terminate the Republican Party", "The Road To Hell Is Paved With Republicans", and "Donald Trump is not my President."[59]

Those pages probably encouraged peaceful protests I'm sure.
 
Dumb. We're done.
I know that I add next to no serious zero content here. But the not serious or pissed off content I do bring, I usually try to make it on topics that are not a serious conversation to start with, at least I'd like to think so anyway.
The fact that we have people defending this doxing crap, is one of these type topics that isn't a really serious discussion.
We are Ukraine fighting Russian's wearing pussy hats armed with pool noodles.
 
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I know that I add next to no serious zero content here. But the not serious or pissed off content I do bring, I usually try to make it on topics that are not a serious conversation to start with, at least I'd like to think so anyway.
The fact that we have people defending this doxing crap, is one of these type topics that isn't a really serious discussion.
We are Ukraine fighting Russian's wearing pussy hats armed with pool noodles.
There is some pretty juicy irony when radical pro-lifers admit that the right to privacy exists.
 
There is some pretty juicy irony when radical pro-lifers admit that the right to privacy exists.
The best I've noticed here, there is ONE "radical" pro lifer and even he admitted that there is room for negotiation.
He calmly, as an adult, stated his personal preference and why, and then agreed to something that should be a nice middle ground, for anyone on the opposite position that wasn't just a simple fascist in pussy clothing.
 
Is it ok if strangers come up to you and check out your penis and testicles? Do you want to go to Bloomington and ask 18-22 year old coeds what is going on inside of their pussies and if we can give their pussies a full inspection for any potential lives?
If I thought it would save a life, absolutely.

Who in their right mind wouldn’t?
 
Is it ok if strangers come up to you and check out your penis and testicles? Do you want to go to Bloomington and ask 18-22 year old coeds what is going on inside of their pussies and if we can give their pussies a full inspection for any potential lives?
Yes and hell yes.
 
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