To add on - this might have a silver lining by getting the Russians out from behind their mind fields and dug in defenses. When Urkraine gets sufficient weapons and munitions they might be able to do a rapid counter offensive destroying Russian forces in depth. Maybe involving a flanking attack.
How bout no dead people and no war?
Nonsense. Russia started the war. Putin has expressed desire to bring former Soviet states back into the fold. He started with Ukraine territory in Crimea. This is all fact.
link? I know there's a neocon boogeyman that says Putin has designs on reconstituting the Soviet Union, but I don't believe he's ever said as much.
Neocon? I have no idea what neocon would have to do with it. I’m watching the Reds and the NFL draft. You can do a little research on your own.
That was where my mind was going. Pull back, let them extend past their supply lines and fortification, then pinch them off . Could be a huge body count. They are already looking at 500,000 in the next 35-40 days just under normal operations.
Courtesy of WikiLeaks. Our now head of the CIA, makes it clear in 2008 that Ukraine admission to NATO is the reddest of red lines. NATO continued to kick around the idea
He took Crimea long before any NATO discussion and started the uprising. He took parts of Georgia long before that. The Russians were involved in Transnistria in 1990, and are still working to destabilize Moldova.
I think the change of the head of command of the Ukrainian military coincided with Ukraine pulling back. Could be the pullback is by design, for this reason, knowing the Russkies lose a lot more men and material when they're on the offense.
If you have Netflix, you should watch the Turning Point series on the Cold War. It does a pretty good study on Putin and his motivations and mindset. Pretty good insight and there's no doubt he sees the downfall of the Soviet Union as a humiliation and he wants to put the old band back together.
Malarkey. Give me the cliff notes and spare me the 9 part documentary.
2 minutes into the first episode. Zelensky interview.
That is just so wrong. The Bucharest summit prompted the invasion of Georgia.
We may be witnessing a cooler scrap develop. D&D military against Russian sympathyThat is just so wrong. The Bucharest summit prompted the invasion of Georgia.
2008 Bucharest summit - Wikipedia
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I thought you were the boards military historian or something?
Like it or not the Russians are an entity we’re going to need to learn to deal with. Time for some real poltique.
I think Ukraine is teaching everyone right now how to deal with them.
I haven't been following as much. Is this the start of a counteroffensive? Or just luring the Orcs out of their trenches and then torching them?
Me either and I am simply an observer, reading others thoughts. Seems to be some theories that the Orcs know there is a shit ton of new things that go bang, with their names on them, that are inbound. They are trying to grab anything they can.. and are failing at it (but that is their stratagy).
I don't think the delay in aid was by design, but I think Ukraine knew it would eventually be approved.
Wellllllllll that explains why I've been seeing a FEW videos of ATACMS (the cluster version) over the last month. I assumed that Ukraine had been holding back a few, but this "secret" shipment explains what I wrote off as tactical weapon usage, so never mentioned it. Fantastic.
The military sure knows how to name things.
It is a good one, isn't it !!! hahaha. Proves there is fun in killing a lot (alot) of the enemy !!
That's insane. Getting close to seriously affecting an entire generation, population-wise - if the number is anywhere close to this. And it's only going to get bigger.Getting very close to 1/2 MILLION "good" orchs.
www.politico.eu
Negotiations won’t work from a position of weakness. And yes, the MAGA Republican's’ delay of Ukraine aid package put Ukraine in a position of weakness.Are we slouching our way to total Putin win?
Aid and military packages will not stem the Russian tide. Ukraine simply is outmanned on the front lines. Keeping Odessa out of Putin’s hands is important. The best way to do that is with a negotiated solution. I honestly can’t figure out what we think we can achieve at this point. Our early timidity is biting us in the ass
Ukraine is at great risk of its front lines collapsing
According to high-ranking Ukrainian officers, the military picture is grim and Russian generals could find success wherever they decide to focus their upcoming offensive.
Blaming the GOP for the delay is unfair. The GOP wanted to implement a higher priority for our border security, the Democrat response was funding more dysfunction and wouldn’t budge on any reasonable enforcement. . More cram-down democracy thanks to the Dems. At least we tried. Reasonableness would have resulted in Ukraine funding last year.
I think it's entirely fair. Both things are important. There was an option to do both which former President Trump told his minions not to go with, so they didn't. After that the only possible way to fund Ukraine was to do it separately. The majority of Republicans and Democrats voted to do it. The MAGAs and the far-left Democrats joined in voting against it. I'm not good with the MAGA wingnuts joining with the Democrat moonbats on this.
I wouldn't take this at face value. According to the article, there is internal debate about it.Are we slouching our way to total Putin win?
Aid and military packages will not stem the Russian tide. Ukraine simply is outmanned on the front lines. Keeping Odessa out of Putin’s hands is important. The best way to do that is with a negotiated solution. I honestly can’t figure out what we think we can achieve at this point. Our early timidity is biting us in the ass
Ukraine is at great risk of its front lines collapsing
According to high-ranking Ukrainian officers, the military picture is grim and Russian generals could find success wherever they decide to focus their upcoming offensive.
Eh. Moldavia has no strategic value. Odessa is a major hub for food distribution. That will give Putin incredible leverage in food and energy.
But they are already involved in Moldova.Eh. Moldavia has no strategic value. Odessa is a major hub for food distribution. That will give Putin incredible leverage in food and energy.
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Port of Odesa - Wikipedia
Moldava has huge strategic value because it would put them closer to Kiev and just encircles Ukraine more.
A return to Holodomor, starvation of Ukraine. For those wonder why a Ukraine and a Georgia might want protection from Russia, that's the answer.
You weren't my intended target in looking it up, I am hoping the "Russia is a benevolent overlord" people do.
