Rick Neuheisel on the CBS halftime show…
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Right that's exactly what I said. I'm more worried about one or both these coordinators leaving then I am CCC.
Fans are there. The official attendance at the Maryland game was 48343. Memorial stadium only holds 52000. That's over 90% full.
It’s not really about 12 teams, it’s about 7 teams (6 if you assume Notre Dame is all but automatic unless they’re 9-3 or worse)
Notre Dame is far from an auto even at 1 loss (this year). If they lose 2, they're done (this year)
Two of those five teams are going to be from SEC/B10 anyway. The remaining three will be from the ACC/B12/highest remaining conference champion...all 3 of those conferences will be one bid leagues. 9 of the playoff teams will be comprised of the B10 and SEC, 8 if ND gets in.
Possibly but if so it would imo be because one of the losses was to NIU. If ND had beaten No Illinois and ended with only a loss to USC I think they’d probably be in, and I wouldn’t have been surprised if they would’ve gotten in at 10-2 if the 2 losses had been to Tex A&M and USC.
Give both those guys a nice bump and they won't go anywhere, at least not right away.
Haines' total compensation package is $1.1 annually. That places him not far outside the top 10 nationally in compensation for defensive coordinators.
If this year continues as it's going, I doubt Haines would have much difficulty landing a HC job at a Group of 5 program, much like Kane Wommack did when he accepted the HC position at South Alabama. I don't think Haines would draw much, if any, interest from a P4 program as a HC, though, at least not yet. IU should pay him so he's not tempted to bolt for a HC job at a G5 school.
Back to Wommack for a second. He made $810k in his last year as HC at South Alabama and almost doubled that ($1.55) when he accepted the DC position under DeBoer at Alabama. He left a head coaching position for a coordinator job. No, IU isn't Alabama but money talks. Pay these guys (Haines and Shanahan) and they'll stay a while longer.
Shanahan's total annual package, btw, is $800k. He deserves a hefty increase after this season - - again assuming we continue on this current trajectory.
It’s not just about money, it’s also about the quality of the prospective openings in any given season. If a school like Akron or Kent State came after Shanahan or Haines to be their next HC I think Cig could probably retain them if he really wanted to, but if an elite program like Oklahoma came after Shanahan I don’t think it would be a question of IU matching their offer.
Ordinarily an opportunity to coach at Oklahoma would simply be too good to pass up. But in Oklahoma’s specific case RIGHT NOW, their head coach may be on sufficiently shaky ground himself to make Shanahan and other potential OC candidates think twice about their own potential job security if they made a move to Norman.
You're right. It's not always just about money. That said, I think the chances of Shanahan leaving IU to become OC at Oklahoma are slim to none.
The use of Oklahoma is as an example, not as a prediction. It might be Clemson, or LSU, or any number of others. There will be openings. We don’t know yet which ones there will be, whether any would contact Shanahan, or whether he would have any interest.
My point is that some programs are sufficiently elite that, if they had an opening and contacted Shanahan (or Haines), it wouldn’t be simply a matter of IU “matching an offer” to successfully keep them. The decisions involved would be more numerous and complicated than that.
I agree. I don't see either of our coordinators leaving for anything other than a head coaching job.
There are still some P2 (okay, okay, P4) Coordinator jobs that are a definite step up but there are a good deal less of them than there were 20-25 years ago. Too soon to know if any of them will be open this postseason. I guess Florida will be, but I m not sure that’s going to be the healthiest atmosphere to be in, at least for the immediate future.
There will probably be some lower level HC spots opening up too. Some might be attractive, some might not be. If I were in Cig’s place and Shanahan or Haines told me “Akron offered me their HC job” I’d be inclined to say “you might want to think twice about that one. Maybe even three times. Or four.” But if, say, one of them came to me and said “Baylor hired Jason Candle and Toledo offered me their HC job” I might say “you should say yes asap.”
Some jobs, I honestly don’t know what I’d say about. For example, if Florida hired Kiffin and Ole Miss hired Major Applewhite (I can see the “Major Upgrade “ memes already) and Shanahan or Haines told me “South Alabama offered me the HC job” I’m not sure what my reaction would be. It’s a better job than it used to be (thanks, Coach Wommack) but is it “good enough”? Not sure on that one…
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