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Didn't CCC say this isn't a stepping stone this is where he wants to finish his career from? He seems to be a man of his word. The bigger problem is loosing Haines, shanahan, and sunseri. OC and DC are just as important as head Coach. Think about our last successful season. Deboer and Womack. Then end of season they left to take head coach positions and we sucked again. We have to hope these guys either really love CCC or IU pays up big because if not they will have plenty of opportunities at years end
 
Cuban can do more with his $4.6 billion. But alas, Cuban is not a visionary. Doesn’t see the impact of college football and the returns down the road. And, he hates the game of football in general.
I just read he’s a Steelers fan. I don’t think he hates the game. Btw, he and Cignetti are both boys from Pittsburgh.
 
Cig has a template. Get old and stay old. He will bring guys up like he did this year. He will recruit and develop guys too. He’s got a great eye for guys being underrated, undersized and under recruited. I think he likes to do those things. Perfect fit for us.
 
Cig is a results driven guy. Up his based by 15-20% and incentivize the heck out of his contract. 8 wins is $, 9 wins is $$, 10 wins is $$$...... do the same for the asst coaches.
FWIW Cig’s contract is already heavily incentivized. If they beat Northwestern and get a bowl bid, I think Cig will get an automatic one-year contract extension and, effectively, an $800,000 one-off increase which could expand to somewhere around $1 million if IU makes the playoff.

Personally I think that IU would have to go at least 11-1 to get to the CFP, and I don’t think even 11-1 would guarantee them a spot if an 11-1 (or 10-2) ND, Georgia or Tennessee was available.
 
FWIW Cig’s contract is already heavily incentivized. If they beat Northwestern and get a bowl bid, I think Cig will get an automatic one-year contract extension and, effectively, an $800,000 one-off increase which could expand to somewhere around $1 million if IU makes the playoff.

Personally I think that IU would have to go at least 11-1 to get to the CFP, and I don’t think even 11-1 would guarantee them a spot if an 11-1 (or 10-2) ND, Georgia or Tennessee was available.
Shit is absolutely rigged if ANY Big Ten team doesn't make the playoffs at 11-1...That would be a complete travesty.

I do not believe that would happen.
 
IndyResident has convinced me that schools the size/stature of Florida, Florida State, etc... are probably not going to hire him due to his age. I think the biggest threat will be from schools that are off a little bit of late, but have deeper football history. Virginia Tech, maybe a school like Ole Miss if Kiffin leaves for one of the Florida schools, maybe North Carolina if they move on...if schools like that are looking this offseason, those would concern me the most.
Virginia Tech would have scared me 10 years ago with Beamer stepping down. But fact remains that the ACC is a dying breed and is likely a lateral move at best in this day and age regardless of them having a great game day atmosphere. North Carolina isn’t going to replace a 75 year old coach with a 64 year old coach. If Cignetti leaves it’s going to be for a job that legitimately gives him a chance at winning a national title in the next 4-5 seasons. There’s about 8-10 programs who fit this profile, the large majority who aren’t going to experience a coaching vacancy.
 
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If Cignetti leaves it’s going to be for a job that could legitimately gives him a chance at winning a national title in the next 4-5 seasons. There’s about 8-10 programs who fit this profile, the large majority who aren’t going to experience a coaching vacancy.
I believe CCC thinks he’s already at a place that can “legitimately” win a national title in the next 4-5 years. I really do.

It would also be nice if everyone quits assuming that we’ll lose to OSU.
 
Shit is absolutely rigged if ANY Big Ten team doesn't make the playoffs at 11-1...That would be a complete travesty.

I do not believe that would happen.
I agree it would be a travesty but I could see it happening if, for example, the B1G managed to end up with one 12-0 team and three 11-1 teams (I haven’t cross-referenced the schedules to see which group of schools that might be). Especially if the second-best team in the ACC or Big 12 is also 11-1. And Notre Dame finishes 11-1, or even 10-2.
 
I agree it would be a travesty but I could see it happening if, for example, the B1G managed to end up with one 12-0 team and three 11-1 teams (I haven’t cross-referenced the schedules to see which group of schools that might be). Especially if the second-best team in the ACC or Big 12 is also 11-1. And Notre Dame finishes 11-1, or even 10-2.
11-1 should get it in. But that does imply not making B10 title game. 12 teams is a lot though. Even if the SEC gets 4 teams, it still looks more likely than not that B10 gets more than 2.
 
11-1 should get it in. But that does imply not making B10 title game. 12 teams is a lot though. Even if the SEC gets 4 teams, it still looks more likely than not that B10 gets more than 2.
I’d be surprised if the B1G and SEC got a combined 8 teams in the playoff. That would leave, what, 1 Big 12 slot and 1 ACC slot and 1 G5 slot? And one slot that will probably go to Notre Dame (unless they have at least 3 losses)?

I think it’s more likely that B1G/SEC get 7, or even 6 teams in, which I suspect will result in some deserving B1G and/or SEC team(s) on the outside looking in. Especially if a marquee team like Clemson or Miami is the ACC runner up, or if a “media hype” team like Colorado is the Big 12 runner up.
 
Didn't CCC say this isn't a stepping stone this is where he wants to finish his career from? He seems to be a man of his word. The bigger problem is loosing Haines, shanahan, and sunseri. OC and DC are just as important as head Coach. Think about our last successful season. Deboer and Womack. Then end of season they left to take head coach positions and we sucked again. We have to hope these guys either really love CCC or IU pays up big because if not they will have plenty of opportunities at years end
CCC is about loyalty. IU will see that he has everything he wants/needs to be successful longterm. His assistants have also been loyal to him. I expect we have 3 years with this current staff before we start to see them leave for HC opportunities.
The BIG question mark is will the fans show up!! If they don't we could be in jeopardy of losing CCC.
 
Didn't CCC say this isn't a stepping stone this is where he wants to finish his career from? He seems to be a man of his word. The bigger problem is loosing Haines, shanahan, and sunseri. OC and DC are just as important as head Coach. Think about our last successful season. Deboer and Womack. Then end of season they left to take head coach positions and we sucked again. We have to hope these guys either really love CCC or IU pays up big because if not they will have plenty of opportunities at years end
What Coach Cig is doing at IU is remarkable. However it is not as much Coach Cig leaving as much as it is one of his coordinators leaving and possibly taking some other members of the staff with them. Some of the reason for Cig's success is continuity of the staff. I don't doubt Cig's ability to find coaching talent as well as playing talent but I would rather not run the risk and find out. Is this selfish on my part ...absolutely.
 
What if there’s a 11-1 IU, 11-1 Penn St, 11-1 Oregon 11-1 Rutgers and 12-0 OSU?
Then the B10 is getting 5 teams in the CFB playoff. And if OSU goes undefeated 13-0 and wins the B10 championship one of those 1 loss teams if going to ultimately have 2 losses eliminating them from discussion. Same thing is going to happen in the SEC once all these undefeated teams start playing each other.
 
What if there’s a 11-1 IU, 11-1 Penn St, 11-1 Oregon 11-1 Rutgers and 12-0 OSU?
The B12, the ACC, and the highest ranked non-B10/SEC conference champion are going to account for 3/12 playoff spots. The SEC and B10 will account for the remaining 9 bids with the champions of each of those conference being the 1 and 2 seed
 
The B12, the ACC, and the highest ranked non-B10/SEC conference champion are going to account for 3/12 playoff spots. The SEC and B10 will account for the remaining 9 bids with the champions of each of those conference being the 1 and 2 seed
Eh...it could happen that way, but it's too early for me to feel strongly about that. I think the ACC could get 2 for sure.
 
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Clemson would have to run the table beating Miami in the ACC championship in the process and there would have to be several 2+ loss B10/SEC teams for a 1 loss Miami team to get in.
I disagree. a 1-loss Miami will have a good/great chance of being included. As would 2-loss Clemson if they lose to undefeated Miami in the ACCCG
 
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I disagree. a 1-loss Miami will have a good/great chance of being included. As would 2-loss Clemson if they lose to undefeated Miami in the ACCCG
A 2 loss non-conference champion Clemson team isn't getting in over a 2 loss SEC/B10 team, let alone a 1 loss SEC/B10 team. And it would be hard to justify a 1 loss non-conference champion Miami team getting in if they lose to the one quality team they played all year (Clemson in ACC championship). The committee left out an undefeated ACC champion last year, tells you everything you need to know on how they view teams outside the SEC/B10.
 
A 2 loss non-conference champion Clemson team isn't getting in over a 2 loss SEC/B10 team, let alone a 1 loss SEC/B10 team. And it would be hard to justify a 1 loss non-conference champion Miami team getting in if they lose to the one quality team they played all year (Clemson in ACC championship). The committee left out an undefeated ACC champion last year, tells you everything you need to know on how they view teams outside the SEC/B10.
2-loss Clemson will 100% get in over 2-loss Indiana. FSU was left out last year because of Jordan Travis' injury.
 
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2-loss Clemson will 100% get in over 2-loss Indiana. FSU was left out last year because of Jordan Travis' injury.
Put it this way, a 2 loss Clemson, assuming their 2nd loss is in the ACC championship game to Miami, will mean their best win is a home game against Louisville. Good chance Louisville has 4 losses at the end of the regular season. There's zero chance a 2 loss Clemson gets in with their best win being against an 8-4 unranked Louisville team. Clemson HAS to win the ACC championship to get in.
 
Cignetti would only take a job in the Big 10 or SEC. He knows those are the only two conferences that matter in football. Michigan is the only big name program in the Big 10 that could be looking for a new coach at the end of the year. In the SEC it’s Florida and Auburn, and both of those programs have insane fanbases who demand 10-11 win seasons. As long as IU ups its commitment to the program, Cig should stay.
 
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Put it this way, a 2 loss Clemson, assuming their 2nd loss is in the ACC championship game to Miami, will mean their best win is a home game against Louisville. Good chance Louisville has 4 losses at the end of the regular season. There's zero chance a 2 loss Clemson gets in with their best win being against an 8-4 unranked Louisville team. Clemson HAS to win the ACC championship to get in.
So if Indiana goes 10-2 and loses to OSU and Michigan, compare resumes with 10-2 Clemson.

It won't be pretty for IU, unfortunately, not to mention the brand comparison, which absolutely would play a role. Not to mention our 2 losses would come in our final 3 games.
 
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Maybe a 2 loss Indiana, but not a one loss Indiana. They will most assuredly not get in over any 1 loss B10 team (Oregon/Penn State) or SEC team nor a 2 loss SEC team (Georgia whom beat them by 30 already).
That's not the argument you were making. You said 2-loss B1G/SEC team.
 
So if Indiana goes 10-2 and loses to OSU and Michigan, compare resumes with 10-2 Clemson.

It won't be pretty for IU, unfortunately, not to mention the brand comparison, which absolutely would play a role. Not to mention our 2 losses would come in our final 3 games.
Indiana won't get in at 10-2, where have I said they would? I've simply stated that a 10-2 Clemson team isn't sniffing the playoff, and that absolutely holds true. They will have lost to the two best teams on their schedule and not have a single quality win. Would precisely be the same reason why IU wouldn't get in at 10-2.
 
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Indiana won't get in at 10-2, where have I said they would? I've simply stated that a 10-2 Clemson team isn't sniffing the playoff, and that absolutely holds true. They will have lost to the two best teams on their schedule and not have a single quality win. Would precisely be the same reason why IU wouldn't get in at 10-2.
A 2 loss non-conference champion Clemson team isn't getting in over a 2 loss SEC/B10 team
I'm just telling you that I 100% believe a 2-loss Clemson team gets in over 2-loss Indiana if our losses are to OSU and Michigan. You said there is no way Clemson is getting in above a 2-loss Big Ten team and I think they would if it were us or Rutgers.
 
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Renegotiate, and put in a huge buy out if someone wants to hire him away .
Buyout is currently 8 million.

I keep hearing Florida used as the example of a school that would be coming after Cig.

They'd have to pay Billy Napier almost 21 million to go away just 3 seasons after paying Dan Mullen a 12 million dollar buyout. Then they'd have to give IU 8 million and likely have to Give Cig at least what they gave Napier (7.5 annually). Then they'd have to buy out current assistants on both sides that have multi year contracts.

They would have to do that for a guy that will be 64 years old when he coaches his first game for you.
 
Buyout is currently 8 million.

I keep hearing Florida used as the example of a school that would be coming after Cig.

They'd have to pay Billy Napier almost 21 million to go away just 3 seasons after paying Dan Mullen a 12 million dollar buyout. Then they'd have to give IU 8 million and likely have to Give Cig at least what they gave Napier (7.5 annually). Then they'd have to buy out current assistants on both sides that have multi year contracts.

They would have to do that for a guy that will be 64 years old when he coaches his first game for you.
Florida isn't going to hire Cignetti. I can confidently say that.
 
Buyout is currently 8 million.

I keep hearing Florida used as the example of a school that would be coming after Cig.

They'd have to pay Billy Napier almost 21 million to go away just 3 seasons after paying Dan Mullen a 12 million dollar buyout. Then they'd have to give IU 8 million and likely have to Give Cig at least what they gave Napier (7.5 annually). Then they'd have to buy out current assistants on both sides that have multi year contracts.

They would have to do that for a guy that will be 64 years old when he coaches his first game for you.

Looks like Florida needs some of that A&M oil money!
 
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