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I only said it had been trending that direction, particularly with Presidential elections. (Hasn't gone red since 2004, and haven't been particularly close since....around D+5 each cycle).

And didn't Bennett just win re-election last year?

I forgot about that, you are correct. I voted for Bennett (the white guy in the race;)) so I'd count him has purple. His opponent was a Ted Cruz wannabe.
 
One note about message board posting: I think anonymity is a good thing. It allows people to be more candid, speak their mind in ways they might not otherwise. So long as folks here are decent people, that can be a real positive and help people really get at core differences, learning something, grow, refine thoughts, test theories, etc. I think that's a big deal and a great opportunity and something people wouldn't gain in real convos in the "polite" world. For me personally, I've learned a ton over time from my involvement at Peegs (or whatever it's called now), both about myself and my own arguments, and I've also received tremendous insights into how other people think and approach challenges (and not all of that has been impressive, which has also been a valuable opportunity to witness).

Now, on to the meat of your post: you said what I say and how it comes across are two different things, but then you didn't really share what you meant. I don't know if you meant my post specifically or just as a general matter. If it was my post, I'd be curious to hear what you meant. I'm all ears (genuinely). But I also think it's on you to think through what I said as well because I also basically said that "your" message and what "you" (using quotes intentionally here because I'm thinking more more globally than you) think you're trying to convey might seem wide apart as well.

Sorry, I am posting from a phone which is a hassle. I do not agree with you on a bunch of topics but you are an agreeable poster.

Most of my "you"s in the post are third person broad blanket "you"s.
 
Do you really believe, in your heart of hearts, that the Democratic Party is openly hostile to white males? And not that they’re just trying to level the obviously uneven playing field?

To some degree yes. Not totally to that point but we have plenty of opportunities these days to pull away the veil. I peruse left leaning blogs and news sources and I pay particular attention to what gets posted in the comments by the people who vote for the Democrats. The policies do not speak to me and the base is extremely hostile to people who look and think like me. Facebook is a wonderful thing when you have left leaning friends and are curious about how they think. Like a story and I see it. I read said article and then look at the comments. It is not just a few crazies, it is hundreds upon thousands of people after every article.

People constantly talk about not being able to wait for old white guys to die off. And yes, I realize that means they think the young white guys will develop into some better "woke" people but eventually young white guys become old white guys too. And their white privelege is just as big an issue as CoH's generation.

So why again, as a soon to be old white male raising 4 white males, would I want to vote for a party that views people that look like me as the primary evil in the world and also believe that justice must be served up on me because of possible ills by my forefathers? And looking at the ones pushing the narrative, it is no longer equality that is wanted (which they should hbave had to begin with) they want punishment...justice for the ills delivers on their ancestors.

So yes, some parts of the party are openly hostile and others just flat do not care about any issues that do anything for me. The GOP has done next to nothing to earn my vote. The Democrats have done nothing. And they do not appear to care whether they have it or not. So screw em.
 
Sorry if I find it a bit amusing that white males are feeling oppressed. As for the religion aspect, while there are a few that are openly disdainful of religion, I think the large majority are people that are pointing out the extreme hypocrisy of the evangelical set of the GOP, in electing Trump, supporting Moore, but are adamantly opposed to LGBTQ rights, abortion, etc, due to their religion. There have been polls posted about how conveniently they decided that personal life doesn't really matter when they wanted to vote for Trump.

Cool. Wanna talk about who we support at the voting box because of political expediency Ms. Feminist? Happy to go there if you want.
 
And you are somehow superior to the people in Alabama?

Again, how do you get Trump? This is how you get Trump.
Yes I’m vastly superior to the average Alabaman. Mainly because I haven’t voted against my own interests for the past 60 years. And the states in which I’ve chosen to live are not habitually at the bottom of all available developed-world metrics.
 
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So now we have posters willing to finally admit they vote based on their white racial resentment, thanks to the ability to find a way to blame it on the democrats. This is hilarious.

Well, if you America-hating, troop-hating, Jesus-hating baby-killers would talk to them a little more respectfully, they might support your candidates.
 
I didn't realize that about Hamilton County. That's encouraging.
Massive growth. Hamilton County is now the 5th most populous county in the state after Marion, Lake, St. Joseph and Elkhart counties. With that growth there is a more diverse population. Having said that, the growth Hamilton has had means that for regular elections to routine sorts of seats like local county and city/town office and legislative seats, the Dems are now about 30% or so county wide and in many district areas you still can't find 2 Democrats to rub together. But credit to the Dems. For decades 2 guys kept the Democrat Party in existence - friends of mine - and now its paying off a bit as growth brings lots of new folks who aren't Republicans in contested seats.
 
So now we have posters willing to finally admit they vote based on their white racial resentment, thanks to the ability to find a way to blame it on the democrats. This is hilarious.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/po...ts-can-t-take-millennial-vote-granted-n804836

Yeah, it is my white racial resentment, it couldn't just be that the Democrats actually have shitty messaging.

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Cool. Wanna talk about who we support at the voting box because of political expediency Ms. Feminist? Happy to go there if you want.
Sorry if white men are feeling just a little uncomfortable these days. It must be tough after hundreds of years of holding all the power in the country to have it scaled back just a little. I'm sure you know just how minorities and women feel. My thoughts and prayers are with you. Hope you can persevere through this difficult time.
 
Well, if you America-hating, troop-hating, Jesus-hating baby-killers would talk to them a little more respectfully, they might support your candidates.
We shouldn't care about the deplorables. Hillary was right that they were going for Trump. But not all of those Trump voters are deplorable and many of them voted for Obama in previous elections. I want them back on our side and we're not going to get them there by treating all of them like the deplorables. That's why I don't think you help our cause sometimes. I do agree with you on the issues mostly but I want to gain Dem voters from Trump voters and not push them away. Don't you?
 
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Could part of that be zero sum game thinking? If Democrats seek to improve the lives of Latinos, African-Americans, and Asian-Americans it must come at the expense of Whites?

How are Democrats improving the lives of Latinos,Asians and African Americans? With 8 years of a black president you would think their lives would have been drastically improved compared to when he took over after all the years of white racists ruining their lives. But wait. Quite the opposite actually happened. HMMM!! Look no further than most major cites that have been run by Democrats for decades. It is all about keeping minorities voting Dem. Lip service and not results based.
 
How are Democrats improving the lives of Latinos,Asians and African Americans? With 8 years of a black president you would think their lives would have been drastically improved compared to when he took over after all the years of white racists ruining their lives. But wait. Quite the opposite actually happened. HMMM!! Look no further than most major cites that have been run by Democrats for decades. It is all about keeping minorities voting Dem. Lip service and not results based.

I guess that shows how badly the GOP "let them eat cake" philosophy works.
 
I think it is more telling that so many people think that the Democrats are so far out of touch with their lives that Moore would get traction knowing what we now know.
To me the two most telling things of the last six months are that (1) Republicans absolutely don't know how to deal with Trump at all no matter how much they may disagree with him, and (2) Republicans cannot reach agreement how to (a) legislate either tax reform or tax break (or both) while at the same time (b) reducing the national debt.

Republicans have ruthlessly preached the need for deficit reduction for so many years that they came across like they thought it would be easy to accomplish. Now that they have control, they sorta look weak and ineffective because they're having so much trouble finding a way to give tax relief to average Joes and avoid increasing the national debt.
 
How are Democrats improving the lives of Latinos,Asians and African Americans? With 8 years of a black president you would think their lives would have been drastically improved compared to when he took over after all the years of white racists ruining their lives. But wait. Quite the opposite actually happened. HMMM!! Look no further than most major cites that have been run by Democrats for decades. It is all about keeping minorities voting Dem. Lip service and not results based.

For starters, the Democrats dont assume that there are good guys amongst the KKK or the far right; nor do they think that the immigrants, blacks or Hispanics are rapists and account for the ills of the earth.
The key is acceptance of diversity.

It goes a long way to making up for America's Original Sin.
 
How are Democrats improving the lives of Latinos,Asians and African Americans? With 8 years of a black president you would think their lives would have been drastically improved compared to when he took over after all the years of white racists ruining their lives. But wait. Quite the opposite actually happened. HMMM!! Look no further than most major cites that have been run by Democrats for decades. It is all about keeping minorities voting Dem. Lip service and not results based.
Lol
 
The idea of walking a mile in someone else’s shoes is pretty foreign to IUBBALLAWOL.
So you have nothing that shows Dems are improving the lives of minorities. Thanks for proving my point. Lip service is not walking a mile in another's shoes is it?
 
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We shouldn't care about the deplorables. Hillary was right that they were going for Trump. But not all of those Trump voters are deplorable and many of them voted for Obama in previous elections. I want them back on our side and we're not going to get them there by treating all of them like the deplorables. That's why I don't think you help our cause sometimes. I do agree with you on the issues mostly but I want to gain Dem voters from Trump voters and not push them away. Don't you?
But you folks are stuck with the power brokers and policy makers in your party/movement who demand ever larger moves to the left, ignore warnings that they are losing the people and stick to the old meme that the only reason communism/socialism hasn't yet worked is that the wrong people have been running it but they think they are the right people.

Its failed but your leadership demands adherence to their extremism.
 
stick to the old meme that the only reason communism/socialism hasn't yet worked is that the wrong people have been running it but they think they are the right people.

Like the trickle down economics you all roll out whenever you get the chance. It’s socialism for the rich and you back it all day long. You’re a socialist.
 
But you folks are stuck with the power brokers and policy makers in your party/movement who demand ever larger moves to the left, ignore warnings that they are losing the people and stick to the old meme that the only reason communism/socialism hasn't yet worked is that the wrong people have been running it but they think they are the right people.

Its failed but your leadership demands adherence to their extremism.
I think we have some extremists in our party but it appears that your party has been taken over by extremists. I'm a mainstream Dem and I feel like a left winger compared to our President and a lot of the Republicans in Congress. Moore is a right wing nut from my perspective and he apparently likes underage girls. It's sad that he might be a Senator very soon.
 
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