Wilbon is in love with Woodson..
Kornheiser says he has to be better..Indiana is like U.K. in expectations...
Kornheiser says he has to be better..Indiana is like U.K. in expectations...
PTI ..Discussion on IU
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Wilbon and Woodson are genuinely good friends though.
I could see somebody liking Woodson as a friend to hang out with. But he acts like a pompous ass and he sucks as a college ball coach
Senior day shaping up to be even more awkward this year.
5 of the next 7 on the road. We’ll see how the national media feels after that.
But as Brent Musburger once said, ‘once the local media turns on you, you’re finished.’
This is done.
But as Brent Musburger once said, ‘once the local media turns on you, you’re finished.’
This is done.
Just watched PTI. I like Wilbon but he was talking out of his ass. Quoting our impressive 13-5 record. CMW is his boy. Total biased take.
Maybe we’ll play better on the road. After being booed at home, if this team has any pride I could see them coming out with an “us versus everyone else” mentality.
Nothing will change the state of the program until we have a new staff. Still, I wouldn’t be shocked to see us win one of these on the road. However, the NU game will be interesting. Will the chicago area Hoosiers fill half of WRA like they always do, and if so will they actually cheer?
Things are bad, but the next 10 days are the calm before the schedule storm. It gets real rough starting 1/31. This stretch is nothing compared to that.
Is IU in the middle of a losing streak like we have seen in the past?
What was it, 13 games? Will this team eclipse it?
That year it was losing 12 of 13, with the one win in the middle being at MSU.
Last year 4 game losing streak.
The year before that 3 game losing streak. And, the year before that a 5 game losing streak.
I’d be curious to see it versus opponent. I remember beating Wis in OT (triple OT?) back in the day to get to 34 (?) straight wins versus them. It seems like we have had losing streaks lately versus Nebraska, Rutgers, PSU, etc. Do we have any recent B10 winning streaks against anyone?
Yes. That is like asking Buckner for his opinion of Woody.
Are we really though?
I can understand why somebody who just covers sports nationally would think that. They tend to have very surfacy views of everything -- because their focus is on lots and lots of sports and teams, not just a single team or conference.
Tubby Smith won an NC and had a 0.760 winning percentage at Kentucky. He "resigned" after two consecutive seasons with 22 wins -- after having won 28 games the year before that.
Calipari's final team at UK was T2 in the SEC. Went 13-5 in the conference. He did have one season from hell at UK. But, other than that, he had gobs of success there. His career winning percentage was even higher than Smith's: 0.769.
He's no longer there.
Indiana is....not like UK in terms of expectations. If they ever were, it's been a long time ago. Our expectations are no better than Minnesota's.
For the second year in a row we have players and Dakich openly trashing each other. And the year before that it was Woody's daughter posterizing DD.
Expectations, not results. Let’s get real here. If our expectations were no higher than Minnesota’s we’d probably be talking about an extension for Woody right now.
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Then how did Archie Miller last 4 years with a winning percentage barely above .500?
A program with high expectations would've fired Miller after his 2nd season -- seasons that were T6 and 9th, respectively. He not only got another season, he got 2 more.
How has Woodson survived as long as he have?
I wish you were right about our expectations being high. But recent history just (depressingly) suggests otherwise. I'm sure most people chalk it up to prudence and patience not low expectations. But I think they're fooling themselves.
The point I was trying to make was that our expectations are not what Kentucky's are. I grabbed Minnesota out of thin air -- not to do some kind of quantitative analysis of their winning percentages to ours, what has to happen to change horses, etc. I referred to them rhetorically.
The point is: we do not have very high expectations. If we did, Archie Miller wouldn't have lasted 4 seasons with a 56% winning percentage.
Let me put it another way: our expectations as a program are closer to Minnesota's than they are to Kentucky's. Kentucky fires NC-winning coaches with 75% winning percentages…after a couple of 22 win seasons.
Some fans, I agree. But (a) it’s not all of us, and (b) what we think doesn’t matter very much.
for those who know their history...that game was the beginning of our issues with Ted Valentine. Where it all started.
Maybe someone could send Wilbon this article and he could explain how the average margin of loss has grown each year.
www.insidethehall.com
Lopsided losses for IU basketball have only grown worse since 2021-22 season
Indiana basketball has compiled a 76-45 record since the start of the 2021-22 season, the first of Mike Woodson's tenure in Bloomington.
www.insidethehall.com
You can put the program you want in there. My point was that we don’t have the expectations of Kentucky.
Our expectations are closer to a middle of the road B10 team…as evidenced by just how much mediocre performance our decision makers seem to tolerate and how unwilling they are to hire somebody who positively refuses to lose.
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