We're talking about Biden. Stop obsessing about Trump.
Biden's a lousy candidate and I'm sure will be a lackluster President.
Which makes him an exponentially better choice than his opponent.
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We're talking about Biden. Stop obsessing about Trump.
Wait a minute... You have ignored Trump's realty for 4+ yrs, now since Biden is accused it's a big deal, and Dems are the hypocrites? I don't think any of the anti-Trump people on this board were influenced by the Access Hollywood tape. We just assumed that all rational people who were even considering supporting Trump would now realize what a horrible decision a vote for Trump would be...
Now the same people who were NOT dissuaded by Trump's behavior, are pushing the Biden angle and expect those of us who knew Trump was an asshole to what? Somehow believe that because Biden is now being accused of what Trump is guilty of, that Trump is suddenly palatable?
This was NOT our primary concern in 2016, and you guys basically dismissed it of having importance to you. So now YOU think it matters and we don't see it changing our opinion of Trump. If Trump resigns and decides not to run- then I'm all in for the Dems possibly nominating someone else. But if Trump is the GOP nominee I want the best challenger and for a variety of reasons IMHO, That is Biden...
Actually Joe Biden could go all "Weekend at Bernie's" and still be a better option than Cap'n Carrot".When all of the Democratic candidates realized that there was a possible path to a Trump reelection if Bernie Sanders split the vote, all of them said holy crap I’m getting out of the race and throwing my support behind Joe Biden. Even Bernie Sanders realized it and dropped out of the race to support Joe Biden. The most endearing quality about Joe Biden is that he’s not Donald Trump. Everybody is fine with Joe Biden just keeping his mouth shut and just letting Donald Trump self destruct. And if Joe Biden was to drop dead while in office people would be fine with whomever he picks as VP candidate taking over. Because whoever that is would again be infinitely a better alternative to Donald Trump.
If Governor Cuomo decided to run for president and Joe Biden was to drop out everyone would be fine with that too. Do you see a trend?
Not at all and to make this post out of the article in the OP is spectacularly (and probably intentionally) off base The article warns that Democrat activists associated with Bernie re objecting to nominating Biden with this criminal issue hanging over his head. Nothing to do with Trump. Nothing to do with any candidate I might support. Its an internal mess for Dems - how do they dismount from a totally unsuitable and incapable candidate who is very close to the nominee? This is about Dems and their candidates and bears only on that situation. Of course I'm not speaking for Bernie.So, you are speaking for Bernie! I like Bernie too! Nice to know that we have a common ground!
You voted for an incompetent imbecile and he acts like an incompetent imbecile.No, you prove the point that most of us made back then and have continued to make when many of you called those who voted for Trump every name in the book because of his personal behavior. At the time, we responded that his personal behavior was not great, but when looking at direction of running the country, we had to put up with some crap...basically what you have posted as your last paragraph.
And at the time, you all were, "I would never vote for someone like that..." Now it is all, "bring on the perverted, hair sniffing, child groping, finger banging, dementia candidate" because you think he is the best chance to win an election. Less than 4 years to prove you were full of shit. Which is what we have been saying for 3 years now.
Not at all and to make this post out of the article in the OP is spectacularly (and probably intentionally) off base The article warns that Democrat activists associated with Bernie re objecting to nominating Biden with this criminal issue hanging over his head. Nothing to do with Trump. Nothing to do with any candidate I might support. Its an internal mess for Dems - how do they dismount from a totally unsuitable and incapable candidate who is very close to the nominee? This is about Dems and their candidates and bears only on that situation. Of course I'm not speaking for Bernie.
Why is Joe silent on this issue?Grandpa Joe may be in some trouble
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/04/tara-reade-witnesses-joe-biden-assault-harassment.html
I agree with you about Biden being way behind.Biden is way behind.....
Sexual misconduct allegations have been made against Trump by at least 22 women
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump_sexual_misconduct_allegations
I agree with you about Biden being way behind.
I'm not voting for Trump and probably not for Biden either.
It is kind of interesting to see some of the folks here who blasted Kavanaugh be pretty silent on Biden.
Kavanaugh didn't have anything to do with drunken behavior at high school parties.....
Politicos and partisans are ripe with rabid hypocrisy.
Kavanaugh didn't have anything to do with drunken behavior at high school parties..... but was just blowback from the left about losing a SC seat, that they viewed as illegitimate.
Man, you guys are OBSESSED with Trump. It doesn’t take a never Trumper to note the hypocrisy there.Posted like a true never trumper.
Man, you guys are OBSESSED with Trump. It doesn’t take a never Trumper to note the hypocrisy there.
I just thought it was funny.
Why do T.rump voters have so much trouble owning T.rump?
So, she's lying?I tend to believe people who've been on the wrong end of sexual harassment, but the more I look into this case and read articles like this one in Washington Monthly by Nancy LeTourneau, it starts to look like this Reade may not be being forthright.
According to LeTourneau's article; "There is a recording of a woman believed to be Reade's mother calling in to the Larry King Show in '93 where she says her daughter was sexually harassed, not sexually assaulted. The AP recently contacted 21 former Biden staffers, none of whom remember any Reade complaint against their boss. Reade now says she made claims of sexual harassment, but not assault, to her supervisors in Biden’s office; they vehemently deny hearing any such complaint. Reade also claims she complained to the Senate personnel office; but there is no record of it."
In his closely documented, almost 50-year career, there have been no other similar claims against Biden. The Times interviewed the other seven women who came out last year to accuse Biden of touching them against their will; none said his behavior crossed the line to sexual assault. After many dozen interviews, with Reade and her friends, along with lawyers and two dozen Biden staffers, the writers concluded: “The Times found no pattern of sexual misconduct by Mr. Biden.” Men who do what Reade says Biden did tend to do it more than once (see Harvey Weinstein, Jeffrey Epstein, and Donald Trump). Also, once an allegation like Reade’s surfaces, others usually follow. They have not, at least so far."
Now to the quite strange information about Reade. In 2016 and 2017, she had a twitter account under the name Tara McCabe, where she retweeted praise for Joe Biden’s efforts to end sexual assault, as well as condemnation of Vladimir Putin. She has also been known as Tara Reade Moulton, Tara McCabe, Alexandra Tara McCabe, and Alexandra Tara Reade. That's a lot of peculiar name changes/aliases. The piece in the New Yorker she retweeted said: Putin seeks to “damage American confidence and undermine the Western alliances — diplomatic, financial, and military, that have shaped postwar world.” Kind of exactly what Putin has done.
Suddenly, in 2018 she did a complete 180 on Putin, describing him in weird, sexually charged terms. Her article “Why a Liberal Democrat supports Vladimir Putin”:
Through my lens, President Putin brought a chaotic and failed nation to become a vibrant, creative, economic force within a decade. I don’t care what your politics; just admit that his sheer, calculated vision and willful energy brought Russia back to be a world power…President Putin has an alluring combination of strength with gentleness. His sensuous image (emphasis mine) projects his love for life, the embodiment of grace while facing adversity. It is evident that he loves his country, his people and his job. Although his job may seem like in the words of writer, Elizabeth Gilbert on genius, “ trying to swallow the sun.” This is a whole lot to deal with for one mere mortal… President Putin’s obvious reverence for women, children and animals, and his ability with sports is intoxicating to American women.Where the hell does that come from after ONE year?
The week she came out with her accusations against Biden, she also wrote:
When the anti-Russia, anti-Putin propaganda starts up, personally, I shut down. I love Russia, I love my Russian relatives and friends. And like most women across the world, I like President Putin… a lot, his shirt on or shirt off. (again, emphasis is mine)All that said, LeTourneau concludes by saying: "The agenda I bring to the table is that I want to believe Joe Biden. Frankly, though, I struggle with that and have tried to weigh all of the evidence. That is what is disturbing about this whole thing…we just don’t know. And I’m afraid we’re all going to have to live with that."
Personally, I'm beginning to think Reade's (or whatever her name is) story is just another one of Trump's disinformation campaigns to hurt Biden. I don't like to doubt accusers because in my 27 years in the finance industry I saw a lot of pinching, slapping, and VERY crude comments from men to women in an office setting. This one is too weird, though at too convenient a time.
So, she's lying?
How do you know? Were you there?Politicos and partisans are ripe with rabid hypocrisy.
Kavanaugh didn't have anything to do with drunken behavior at high school parties..... but was just blowback from the left about losing a SC seat, that they viewed as illegitimate.
What has Biden got to do with Kavanaugh? At least make your attempts at comparison REALISTIC, as in Biden vs Trump...
You know, as in two candidates for POTUS accused of sexual assault by (in Trump's case) multiple women. Kavanaugh is a strawman, whose confirmation was determined by which party controlled the Senate. No election allowing the people to make a choice...
It's only a strawman in your mind.
Democrats accused of double standard on Biden, Kavanaugh
In 2018, top Democrats reacted with fury at the allegations made by Blasey Ford, demanding Kavanaugh remove himself from consideration to the Supreme Court.https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/495757-democrats-accused-of-double-standard-on-biden-kavanaugh
They walked with the protesters on Capitol Hill, fundraised off the hearings and used the issue to energize the liberal base ahead of the 2018 midterms, in which Democrats won back the House.
Privately, some Democrats are now lamenting the standard they set in 2018, saying it has backfired now that Biden has been accused.
“We set up a standard we can't live by. No one likes to discuss it but it's the reality,” said one Democratic strategist who requested anonymity to talk candidly. “It looks terrible for him and for the party. You can't say you believe women and then take it all back because it doesn't apply to you.”
I find all politicians and political parties hypocritical liars, so I don't really care one way or the other.... and rather expect it. But it's not a strawman.
If you are not voting neither for Biden nor for Trump, whom are you going to vote for? In case you don't know, George Wallace is dead, and has been dead for a long time.I agree with you about Biden being way behind.
I'm not voting for Trump and probably not for Biden either.
It is kind of interesting to see some of the folks here who blasted Kavanaugh be pretty silent on Biden.
Why is it that when Biden's accusation is brought up people who support him don't own it. They just immediately go, "But Trump"? The real question is if Biden has been accused. Are you willing to have a complete hearing on this like they did on Kavanaugh? Also if it is proven he did rape this woman would you withdraw your support?Biden is way behind.....
Sexual misconduct allegations have been made against Trump by at least 22 women
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump_sexual_misconduct_allegations
That is quite a statement for a pastor, who has been an ardent supporter of our current president, who has been PROVEN to have committed similar or worse acts, many times over. BTW, I asked you this question before: have you ever read the Ten Commandments? If you have, do you understand what they say? How many of the articles has our current president broken, and yet you support such actions?Why is it that when Biden's accusation is brought up people who support him don't own it. They just immediately go, "But Trump"? The real question is if Biden has been accused. Are you willing to have a complete hearing on this like they did on Kavanaugh? Also if it is proven he did rape this woman would you withdraw your support?
I don't know if it has been proven that Trump raped a woman. How do you know for sure? Also I ask you the same question. If it was known for certain that Joe Biden committed rape on a woman and that is why she abruptly quit her job would you still support him?That is quite a statement for a pastor, who has been an ardent supporter of our current president, who has been PROVEN to have committed similar or worse acts, many times over. BTW, I asked you this question before: have you ever read the Ten Commandments? If you have, do you understand what they say? How many of the articles has our current president broken, and yet you support such actions?
I don't know if it has been proven that Trump raped a woman. How do you know for sure? Also I ask you the same question. If it was known for certain that Joe Biden committed rape on a woman and that is why she abruptly quit her job would you still support him?
Judges, dude, judges.Trump bragged about walking into the dressing room of a teenage beauty pageant. And you are one of his biggest fans. I believe there may be a plank in your eye.
1) Do you really believe that what Trump has done is just a rumor? If you do, you are even more hopeless than I thought!I don't know if it has been proven that Trump raped a woman. How do you know for sure? Also I ask you the same question. If it was known for certain that Joe Biden committed rape on a woman and that is why she abruptly quit her job would you still support him?
Democratic Party. Not Democrat Party. When you refuse to use the proper terminology, it makes you look like the dipshitted political hack you really are.You missed the point and the issue raised in the article completely. When the Dems have a nominee - after their convention - then Trump is the opponent. This article is about a Democrat activist calling for Biden to withdraw. This is about an internal dispute/battle WITHIN the Democrat party about who should even be the nominee.