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Collusion is not a legal term, except as it relates to antitrust law. How about "complex web of connections?"

Call it whatever the hell you want. The experts lied to affect the election. Any economist supporting a candidate right now is biased in their assessments of the candidates policies.

How the hell do you assess Kamala’s policies when she changes them with the wind? How did they assess the effect of taxing unrealized gains? How the fck do you assess the effect including time and money costs for Americans to value their properties once a year? Anyone proposing something so ignorant should never be president.
 
I offered mark and goat for us to set an example and self ban ourselves if any of the three of us directed a personal insult at another poster. Mark said no and Goat didn’t answer. Therefore anyone starts a pissing contest with MCM they better grow some big balls because he’s going to crush them.
A nutjob runs amok here on a daily basis, and you just condoned it. Amazing.
 
Call it whatever the hell you want. The experts lied to affect the election. Any economist supporting a candidate right now is biased in their assessments of the candidates policies.

How the hell do you assess Kamala’s policies when she changes them with the wind? How did they assess the effect of taxing unrealized gains? How the fck do you assess the effect including time and money costs for Americans to value their properties once a year? Anyone proposing something so ignorant should never be president.
Not to mention the 20 percent pass through that she will let expire. Those of us with businesses are going to get whacked here. I guarantee that impacts a ton of your clients. It sure as hell impacts me and my partners in a huge way
 
A nutjob runs amok here on a daily basis, and you just condoned it. Amazing.
You’re the Fing nut job. On here acting like your opinion matters. What’s worse you’re barely literate. Data all wrong. Bloodbath. Good grief. No one tags you for fun. No one one jokes with you. Just a miserable human.

But if you want to talk to me post to me.
 
Don’t call a poster a fraud and not expect a response in kind. Now you’re going to pout? Gtfo
IFGAF what you call me…. Your trash talk to Bowl is way over the top. But you ruin every thread on these boards with your repetitive BS.
 
IFGAF what you call me…. Your trash talk to Bowl is way over the top. But you ruin every thread on these boards with your receptive BS.
No you want to dish it out but can’t take a response. I didn’t post at you. You came out attacking. Put on your big boy pants

No different than bowl calling crazed condescending in this thread. No need. But do it expect a response.
 
I have a better question. Why would any rational person lie, to a bunch of strangers on an anonymous message board, about party affiliation?

And why is it, in your estimation, so unbelievable that an independent voter would support Harris and oppose Trump? There are many Republicans who have endorsed Harris, including Republicans who worked with Trump, Republicans who served in Congress during Trump's presidency, and high-ranking military and retired military officers who were appointed by and served under Trump.

Your "gotcha!" attempt makes zero sense.

I think it is very plausible that independent voters or even long-time GOPers would vote for Harris because they are Never Trumpers. Supporting Harris and hating Trump are two different things, even if the end result is the same.

Meanwhile, you still haven’t answered the question. And it’s anonymous so why can’t you state your opinions? I’ve long expressed where i differ from each party. Too many people claim to be independents or even GOPers who won’t vote for Trump, but have yet to articulate any support for conservative views.
 
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Not to mention the 20 percent pass through that she will let expire. Those of us with businesses are going to get whacked here. I guarantee that impacts a ton of your clients. It sure as hell impacts me and my partners in a huge way
The 20% Net Business Income Deduction is enormous. I’ve been warning my business clients for the last two years.
 
A nutjob runs amok here on a daily basis, and you just condoned it. Amazing.
“Nutjobs” are in the eyes of the beholder in here.

Here’s a test. Biden is on a recorded speech calling Trump Supporters (plural) Garbage. Now the WH which includes Kamala are saying it was singular. Now the test. Are they fcking liars or telling the truth?
 
“Nutjobs” are in the eyes of the beholder in here.

Here’s a test. Biden is on a recorded speech calling Trump Supporters (plural) Garbage. Now the WH which includes Kamala are saying it was singular. Now the test. Are they fcking liars or telling the truth?
And they’re sanitizing the transcript
 
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I think it is very plausible that independent voters or even long-time GOPers would vote for Harris because they are Never Trumpers. Supporting Harris and hating Trump are two different things, even if the end result is the same.

Meanwhile, you still haven’t answered the question. And it’s anonymous so why can’t you state your opinions? I’ve long expressed where i differ from each party. Too many people claim to be independents or even GOPers who won’t vote for Trump, but have yet to articulate any support for conservative views.
Very plausible. The never Trumpers see him as a threat to democracy(I'm not arguing the validity, just stating their personal perception). One that will cause lasting and maybe irreversible damage to our institutions. Where they see Harris as just another progressive Dem. Any policy she happens to get passed(non of the extreme ones have a chance BTW) can just be overturned or reformed in 4 years. So they are going with the lesser of two evils in their minds.
 
Very plausible. The never Trumpers see him as a threat to democracy(I'm not arguing the validity, just stating their personal perception). One that will cause lasting and maybe irreversible damage to our institutions. Where they see Harris as just another progressive Dem. Any policy she happens to get passed(non of the extreme ones have a chance BTW) can just be overturned or reformed in 4 years. So they are going with the lesser of two evils in their minds.
Logic I would somewhat understand if things they push forward are ever legislated back out. The instances of that occurring are so rare that none jump to mind.

There is an argument from some in the conservative community that they can't support the current trajectory of the party because it has become too reactionary. My question to them would be, so all that stuff you supported 20 years ago before it got bulldozed over was just bullshit or are you just really so contrarian that your political position is to just stop here? If they pick you up and move you 20 feet? Well let's stop here. They take you from a place you like and drop you someplace you don't? Well, let's stop here and I will write an article "A conservative case for why I should want to be here instead of back there."

It is literally why the populists are in control of the party right now.
 
Very plausible. The never Trumpers see him as a threat to democracy (I'm not arguing the validity, just stating their personal perception). One that will cause lasting and maybe irreversible damage to our institutions.

I disagree.

Where they see Harris as just another progressive Dem.

Very plausible.

Any policy she happens to get passed (non of the extreme ones have a chance BTW) can just be overturned or reformed in 4 years. So they are going with the lesser of two evils in their minds.
Understood. Same with a Pub, if Trump cedes the presidency.
 
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“Nutjobs” are in the eyes of the beholder in here.

Here’s a test. Biden is on a recorded speech calling Trump Supporters (plural) Garbage. Now the WH which includes Kamala are saying it was singular. Now the test. Are they fcking liars or telling the truth?

I lean left, but Biden saying that was so dumb and was on the same plain as what was said at Trumps rally.

Neither should be accepted. Anyone complaining about one and not the other is a hypocrite to the highest degree.
 
They stole it. You don't even know what happened in the election. What the Dems and the deep state did is 100x bigger threat to our democracy than anything Trump ever has.



And what Hillary and the Dems did in 16. But orange man bad. Lmao.

Again, every single one of the entities you mentioned were Republicans, and the Govt were GOP. FBI,DOJ and others are POLITICAL appointment. That means they were nominated/put in place by Trump and are basically out of a job if he loses...

What incentive does your conspirance addled brain think they had to want Trump (AND THEIR JOBS) to lose?
 
Trump is winning easily. Is probably going to win popular vote too which is gonna make all the liberal clowns on here more mental they they already are.
Can you please go repost this in the thread I started for MAGA celebrations? It's precisely the type of input I was hoping to inspire...
 
With all of this talk about Biden/Harris policies, what’s Trump’s plan? Cut taxes? Project 2025? Tariffs that will increase goods by 20%?

Musky said they plan on making people suffer economically the next few years to get what they want.
 
Harris will win
Holding my nose on Harris, I still hope you are right. But I think it will be Trump.

Question for you and the few other reasonable people on this board (both sides). Let's say the night of the election Trump declares himself winner before results are in. Or perhaps preemptively says he was cheated.

Are those things that would be a bridge too far? I already know how you feel about Harris. 😁
 
So I see that some here including a mod think that calling someone a fraud is = throwing out every nasty 4 letter epithet there is. Civility rules
 
Holding my nose on Harris, I still hope you are right. But I think it will be Trump.

Question for you and the few other reasonable people on this board (both sides). Let's say the night of the election Trump declares himself winner before results are in. Or perhaps preemptively says he was cheated.

Are those things that would be a bridge too far? I already know how you feel about Harris. 😁
no bc i still am moved by policies and what party will have a more deleterious impact on all of us. i also know that the systems in place won't allow trump to cheat and win. jan 6 i don't "excuse" but i do understand that i think it was somewhat impulsive and things got out of hand. the more damning evidence to me, without following this stuff to closely, was trump's phone call to "find him votes." i guess that was georgia with the dipshit prosecutor. but ultimately i wouldn't be surprised in the least if trump claims victory. i do believe our system will ensure the actual winner is in office
 
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I lean left, but Biden saying that was so dumb and was on the same plain as what was said at Trumps rally.

Neither should be accepted. Anyone complaining about one and not the other is a hypocrite to the highest degree.
Harris shouldn’t be held responsible for what Biden said and Trump shouldn’t be responsible for what a comedian said. BUT the Dems held Trump responsible. What’s good for the goose is good for the gander.
 
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