I was going to let this conversation die, but after having the time to digest your comments I decided against it as I feel compelled to point out a couple things.
This is long as there is SO much to unpack with you
@Courtsensetwo . I would like to Title my response:
Courtsensetwo – the True Ultracrepidarian
If you are going to single out my posts and try to “catch” me in some sort of hyperbole, at least make the effort to actually have something to stand on and be factually correct…..or don’t waste my time.
Let’s address your inane comments:
- Pretty much everyone knows someone that died of Covid. I know four. Precious few know anyone that had a serious reaction let alone died of the vaccine. I know of none.
- So basically due to the fact that Courtsensetwo doesn’t know of anyone who has died from the vaccine, it must be pure sensationalism. Well as I have stated, I know of two people who have died post vaccination from PEs (that’s Pulmonary Embolism for you feeble-minded people….that’s you, Courtsensetwo in case you didn’t catch that)
- The Interventional Cardiologist I referenced in my post stated that he had two patients die from Myocarditis post vaccination….. caused BY the vaccine
- VAERS Database (more on that below)
- 50,000 people die from Myocarditis annually. Statistically 50% of these will be vaccinated people based on the vaccinated population. Anything else?
- See point B above.
- You have chastised people on here for Reading Comprehension, yet you don’t display it yourself. You’re too entrenched in trying to be trenchant in your responses (or you don’t have the mental bandwidth to understand the point… it actually may be the latter), that you post the above statement with the “gotcha” ---- “Anything else?”
- The Cardiologist I referenced (multiple times now) was brought in to speak on the effects of Covid on the Heart. 2/3rds of the way through his talk, he brought up vaccinations and occurrences that are giving them pause. He specifically spoke about a 21 year old and 30 year old who died of Myocarditis brought on by the vaccine. Your snarky response is trying to make the cause of death/ vaccination mutually exclusive, when the IC made a point to highlight the two deaths as something to watch out for. Not that ALL vaccinated patients will develop Myocarditis or Cardiomyopathy, but it’s something they are monitoring. You OBVIOUSLY skipped over that point so you could “TRY” to be Right.
Let’s circle back to your profound statement #1. Let me help you; because just like IU Hickory, I don’t believe you’re capable nor will you actually do the rudimentary work.
From the 8/20/2021 release of VAERS data:
Found 3,360 cases where Vaccine is COVID19 and Manufacturer is MODERNA and Patient Died
OR
From the 8/20/2021 release of VAERS data:
Found 20,837 cases where Vaccine is COVID19 and Manufacturer is MODERNA and Serious
And since I am an OBJECTIVE person and act in the spirit of transparency, I will state that not all those deaths or serious events were tied directly to the Vaccine, they are required to report them regardless. Additionally, I can already hear you now with some other ridiculous comment, “They aren’t ALL related directly to the Vaccination” or “You can’t prove that”. With that said, I didn’t nor had the desire to search through all of them. Let me point out a few for you. Some will be a repeat from my conversation with IU Hickory, in fact I’ll just copy and paste a couple:
Case 1028765
Life threatening: Yes
Write-up:
“Bilateral PE with right heart strain and pulmonary infarct. COVID negative. Symptoms started 2 days after the vaccine progressively worsened. Diagnosed to day - 02/13/2021. Unknown whether this is an adverse event, but no history of coagulopathy or risk factors”
I feel compelled to help you with the Medical Terms as I’m pretty sure you‘ll need it. In short, patient was COVID negative, got the Moderna vaccine and threw a PE (Pulmonary Embolism)….that’s a bad thing in case you didn’t know. It’s the same thing the NBC Reporter David Bloom died of during the Gulf War. No history of having coagulation issues or having any risk factors prior to receiving the Vaccine……and you both know Pulmonary infarct means lung tissue death…. You know that, right?
Case 1027967
Death: Yes
Write-up: Patient received vaccination on 1/15/2021. Hemorrhagic Stroke on 1/20 , then diagnosed with complicated idiopathic coagulopathy
So she received the vaccine… 5 days later had a stroke. Died 2 days after that.
You know, I used to assist in carotid stent procedures. You know they give the patient a squeaky toy to put in their hand. Then periodically through the case they’ll ask the patient, “Mrs Smith, can you give us a squeak?” They do that to ensure the patient is still cognitively there as even the most minuscule amount of clot will change that patient‘s life.
This person suffered a stroke and died.
| Vaccinated: | 2021-01-11 | | | | | | Onset: | 2021-01-11 | | | | | | Days after vaccination: | 0 | | | | | | Submitted: | 0000-00-00 | | | | | | Entered: | 2021-01-20 | | | | | Vaccination / Manufacturer | Lot / Dose | Site / Route | | | | | COVID19: COVID19 (COVID19 (MODERNA)) / MODERNA | 011L20A / 1 | RA / IM | | | | | | | | | |
Administered by: Public Purchased by: ?
Symptoms: Arrhythmia, Chest discomfort, Death
SMQs:, Anaphylactic reaction (broad), Cardiomyopathy (broad), Cardiac arrhythmia terms, nonspecific (narrow)
Life Threatening? No
Birth Defect? No
Died? Yes
Date died: 2021-01-12
Days after onset: 1
Permanent Disability? No
Recovered? No
Office Visit? No
ER Visit? No
ER or Doctor Visit? Yes
Hospitalized? No
Previous Vaccinations:
Other Medications: Albuterol nebulizer, Saline nebulizer, Metoprolol, Vespi, Albuterol Inhaler, antibiotic 2-3 times per week
Current Illness: lung infection treated with antibiotics a couple of weeks ago
Preexisting Conditions: Hypertension, COPD
Allergies: None Known
Diagnostic Lab Data: Unknown
CDC Split Type:
Write-up: Clients wife reported on 1/18/2021, that her husband died unexpectedly the day after receiving the COVID 19 vaccine. I called and spoke with her. She stated that the client had started experienced some tightness in his chest the evening of 1/11/2021. She stated that it was normal for him to have the tightness in his chest if he got stressed. She stated that she found him on the garage floor on 1/12/2021 at 2120. He was taken by ambulance to the hospital. She stated that the hospital told her that his COPD had caused him to go into arrythmia. |
|
| VAERS ID: | 959568 (history) |
| Form: | Version 2.0 |
| Age: | 70.0 |
| Sex: | Female |
| Location: | Colorado |
| Vaccinated: | 2021-01-16 | | | | |
| Onset: | 2021-01-19 | | | | |
| Days after vaccination: | 3 | | | | |
| Submitted: | 0000-00-00 | | | | |
| Entered: | 2021-01-20 | | | | |
Vaccination / Manufacturer | Lot / Dose | Site / Route | | | |
| COVID19: COVID19 (COVID19 (MODERNA)) / MODERNA | 029L20A / 1 | LA / IM | | | |
| | | | | |
Administered by: Private
Purchased by: ?
Symptoms: Aneurysm ruptured,
Cerebral haemorrhage,
Death,
Intensive care,
Loss of consciousness,
Unresponsive to stimuli
SMQs:, Torsade de pointes/QT prolongation (broad), Haemorrhage terms (excl laboratory terms) (narrow), Hyperglycaemia/new onset diabetes mellitus (broad), Neuroleptic malignant syndrome (broad), Anticholinergic syndrome (broad), Arrhythmia related investigations, signs and symptoms (broad), Haemorrhagic central nervous system vascular conditions (narrow), Guillain-Barre syndrome (broad), Noninfectious encephalitis (broad), Noninfectious encephalopathy/delirium (broad), Noninfectious meningitis (broad), Hypotonic-hyporesponsive episode (broad), Generalised convulsive seizures following immunisation (broad), Hypoglycaemia (broad)
Life Threatening? No
Birth Defect? No
Died? Yes
Date died: 2021-01-20
Days after onset: 1
Permanent Disability? No
Recovered? No
Office Visit? No
ER Visit? No
ER or Doctor Visit? Yes
Hospitalized? Yes, 2 days
Extended hospital stay? No
Previous Vaccinations:
Other Medications: None disclosed
Current Illness: None disclosed
Preexisting Conditions: None disclosed
Allergies: None disclosed
Diagnostic Lab Data: ROI not signed and we do not have access to these records as Clinic is not patient''s PCP
CDC Split Type:
Write-up: Patient received her first dose of the Moderna COVID-19 Vaccination on Saturday January 16th 2021 at approximately 12pm. She completed all necessary screening forms and was deemed to be at low risk for serious allergic reactions. She tolerated the vaccination well, and no complications or immediate adverse events occurred. She was observed for a full 15 mins per CDPHE/CDC guidelines and left the Clinic in stable condition after her observation period was complete. On the morning of Tuesday, January 19th, 2021, the patient was found unconscious and unresponsive by her husband. She was transferred by Ambulance to Hospital shortly thereafter. She was diagnosed with a brain bleed that was determined to be inoperable. She was transferred to other Hospital for higher level care. She was seen by neurosurgery and diagnosed with a ruptured aneurysm. She was treated in the ICU for 24 hours, at which point her team determined that the severity of her brain bleed would not respond to treatment. Supportive cares were withdrawn on Wednesday Jan 20th, and she passed away shortly thereafter.
Those are just a few I found in about 5 minutes of looking at the database. But you’re right, precious few have had any serious reactions or death associated with Vaccination, because Courtsensetwo doesn’t know of any. Mind you….this is only Moderna. I didn’t search Pfizer or J&J.
Let’s continue with
The Best of Courtsensetwo:
- I don't have "conversations" with posters who have zero objectivity and politicize things that are not political.
- Objectivity ( I’m paraphrasing):
You:
- You absolutely should lose your job if you don’t get vaccinated
- The toughest part of getting the shot will be the drive to get it.
:
- It’s not a binary decision, there are many things to consider
- I am vaccinated, but we need to continue to look at other things like the value of post infection/ anti-bodies, etc.
- The trumpers politicized both the virus and the vax. Me recognizing this is just that...recognizing it.
- That’s YOUR response to me stating that you didn't make this Political!
- I want to get back to this point again below.
Based upon that last segment, I seriously doubt you know what the term being Objective means or you had no other way to bow out of our exchange. I honestly think its both.
I love how condescending you were with
@ulrey when he stated he’s been a UPS driver for 20+ Years. That’s SERIOUSLY hard work. I have a lot of respect for what he does.
Well, I’ve been in Medical Devices for 20+ Years. It’s one of the most demanding, stressful and rewarding jobs out there if someone is interested in Healthcare. I have rebuilt and lead Teams for some of the largest Healthcare Companies over the last 15 Years and have hired roughly 40 people into these jobs that pay more in a quarter then you probably make all Year. When you hire that many people over the course of time, you get REALLY good at diagnosing someone within the first 10 -15 minutes of an interaction. I think I have a pretty good read on you and a couple others within your Blacktop posse (I’m actually wondering if you guys have matching Satin Jackets).
Now stay with me, because my diagnosis is probably pretty spot on. I seriously think you never leave your house and your condescending tone is to mask your inadequacies:
- Self awareness and Emotional Intelligence (VERY Important for success): You have neither. The fact that in looking at your posts, you can’t admit when you’re wrong. You’re so entrenched in your desire to be right, you are willing to sacrifice looking foolish to do so….. yeah. You lack EI and SA. I reference your comment of “Recognizing” your Trump response. Dude, own it… I would. “Yeah, you’re right, I brought up the political piece”… you can do it. Nope, you deflect and call it “Recognizing”. I honestly don’t know what to say there…. It’s ok to be wrong. As the saying goes, You are willing to die on that hill even when your rebuttal is complete nonsense. It doesn’t make you less of a man or non-binary individual like yourself to be accountable to a mistake.
- Here’s the REAL eye opener though: You have posted 27,000+ times on a message board in 17 Years! So you average almost 1600 posts a Year! You’re like a Teenage girl who can’t step away from her Instagram or Snapchat. Brother…..get a LIFE. That’s PATHETIC! Say that out loud…. You’ve taken the time to post 27,000 times. Wow! You must be REALLY proud of that accomplishment!! Do you shower or have ACTUAL friends? This fact SCREAMS a lack of self confidence and belief in oneself. You have to run to a message board to find validation..... WOW!
In closing, let me finish with this:
- The Cardiologist I have referenced multiple times, is the former Chief of Cardiology at Cedar Sinai Medical Center. One of THE most highly regarded Medical Centers in the World. He is one of the pioneers in the treatment of MIs. He’s authored over 1000 Peer Reviewed Medical and Science Research Publications. He is one of the NICEST people I have ever interacted with. Given his station in the Healthcare arena, he was unbelievably unassuming, nice and informative. A complete and utter stark contrast to you…. Who couldn’t hold his stethoscope.
- Since you will probably state: “Welcome to ignore” or some other juvenile comment post this interaction. Let me be VERY clear. On my phone are individuals (who if I text them, will text me back within 24 – 48 hours) such as the Chief of Cardiology at Stanford, the Chief of Vascular Surgery at the Cleveland Clinic, the former Chief of Vascular Surgery at the Clinic who is now at Vanderbilt and the Chief Medical Officer at Medtronic, along with multiple other Interventionalists and Captains of Industry within the Healthcare space. Not to mention the DVP for Abbott Diagnostics whose division handles Covid testing. He tried to recruit me to run the West for him two years ago. So do you think I REALLY care if Courtsensetwo and his 27,000 posts (say that again out loud and try not to feel for your pathetic existence) puts me on ignore? Really…think about it….. done thinking? Need a few more seconds? 27,000 posts….. WOW!
If you or your Playground buddies (I envision you guys trading your Pokemon cards in the corner of the playground deciding who gets to participate in your next round of Dungeons and Dragons) want to ping me…. don’t engage me. Just go back to pouring another round of Purple Kool-aid waiting for the next sighting of Hale Bopp… wait are you Marshall Applewhite? (And before you say anything, I realize that I merged the Hale-Bopp Cult with Jonestown.... so let me eliminate another “gotcha” opp for you).
Don’t engage me again you Mental Midget you don’t have the Horse Power. You wasted enough of my time.
