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OK lefties . . .

It doesn't say anything about being entitled to the data. It says unfettered access to any state program that received federal money. As a small c conservative, why would the feds need unfettered access to those databases?
Because they are receiving federal money. It’s not that difficult.
 
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We're not. Conference rival. Got em first week in April.

Hosting Cleveland tomorrow AM, and Internationals (Akron) Sunday. 😄
I played for Busch. With two World Cup players. I was in two national team camps a top ten D1 team played pro and drafted to play mls. I have played with probably 25 World Cup players. Not to hijack this shitty thread but that travel is an insane grift
 
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Wilson's in Findlay was the burger shop that invented square hamburgers served with malts. For a long time, there were accusations that Dave Thomas stole his business model from Wilson's.

Was that the outfit Dave was involved with before he struck out on his own? I have it in my head he was an exec of some sort with one of the big players.
 
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I accept your surrender.
 
Hello, I am being nice. CO would be calling for impeachment and imprisonment. I have suggested neither.

It may be the engineering way. But most engineers I have met are very cautious. They do not design a bridge with no idea if it works until the first car tries to cross. But then your way may explain Boeing lately. Or the guy with the Titanic submarine. He also thought he was smarter than everyone else and didn't need to test. Whatever happened to him?

Ordering people to have more access than they should with no accountability is unheard of power. Now you find me proof the guy that emailed the database was fired and I will amend. I believe a real tech employee would be fired.

Name anyone not elected and not given Senate confirmation who has had more power than Musk? Maybe Don Nelson WW2 War Production Board?
Every Chief of Staff in history, I’d guess.
 
That is the reason for the EO I posted. They got beat in court so they release this EO that says they have the authority to do whatever.

I love how these EOs are peppered with magic words, like "national security" or "performance" or "Article 2 authority" or "terrorism" or whatever they think will justify their unlawful behavior. Looks like a number of judges are calling bullshit on them, too.
 
Ordering people to have more access than they should with no accountability is unheard of power. Now you find me proof the guy that emailed the database was fired and I will amend. I believe a real tech employee would be fired.

Marv, I wonder if most here don't understand the concept of write access vs. read only. For those who don't, when someone has write access to a data set, it means that not only can they see it -- i.e. read access -- they can also change it or delete it -- i.e. write to the data set. People with write access have the keys to the kingdom. It's something that should only be granted to those with a need for it. That's what is frightening about what is reported the whiz kids have been granted. They really do have the ability to rewrite anything they can access. Read only is bad enough, but granting write access to these people is literally a huge national security issue.
 
Trump's allies have zero idea what life is like for people who spent their life working and not sitting on boards. In this interview, Lutnick suggests stopping sending payments to Social Security recipients, fraudster will call to complain and people who deserve it will not.

People who spent their life not sitting on corporate boards will very much notice, need, and complain.

 
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You’re being myopic here. What Chiefs of Staff do is way more powerful and important than anything DOGE has done.

When we know the person that violated the rules and emailed that database was sanctioned we will know there are some guardrails

In the past lawyers were all up into process. What happened to that era? You haven't suggested there is a reasonable process simply because there isn't. Building a bridge without doing any math to determine if it can handle cars is a crappy way of building a bridge. Law of large numbers is that it will work, sometimes. Don't go betting on it long term

Musk fired many with no concern as to good employees vs bad. He is cutting agency locations while reducing phone support. His people have made at least two strategic blunders in emailing a secure db and having write access. None of that indicates a well thought out plan. If he does not give a damn that people who need social security, were promised social security, actually get it, why should I give a damn about his feelings? Apartheid Clyde gets the respect on this front he deserves. If he wants to institute tight controls to safeguard things, great, power to him. I see zero evidence there are any controls. A homework quiz for you, can you point me to his safeguards?
 
Trump's allies have zero idea what life is like for people who spent their life working and not sitting on boards. In this interview, Lutnick suggests stopping sending payments to Social Security recipients, fraudster will call to complain and people who deserve it will not.

People who spent their life not sitting on corporate boards will very much notice, need, and complain.


Lutnick was raised on Long Island, not the Hamptons, the real, working class Long Island. He lost both his parents by the time he was 18, got his way into college on a partial tennis scholarship, 650 of his employees died on 9/11 when the plane hit the north tower. Since then, 25% of his firms profits have been given back to the families of said employees. It took him a couple decades to build the company back to what it was, understandably.

He’s known a lot of struggle, probably more than most. Has shown humongous gratitude and sacrifice and is the furthest thing from some ivory tower, out of touch hedge fund manager.

To cast aspersions based on an awkward comment that you haven’t even characterized correctly in your post is something I thought would’ve been beneath you.

But alas, Trump II has made the once thoughtful and kind into complete dicks.
 
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Lutnick was raised on Long Island, not the Hamptons, the real, working class Long Island. He lost both his parents by the time he was 18, got his way into college on a partial tennis scholarship, 650 of his employees died on 9/11 when the plane hit the north tower. Since then, 25% of his firms profits have been given back to the families of said employees. It took him a couple decades to build the company back to what it was, understandably.

He’s known a lot of struggle, probably more than most. Has shown humongous gratitude and sacrifice and is the furthest thing from some ivory tower, out of touch hedge fund manager.

To cast aspersions based on an awkward comment that you haven’t even characterized correctly in your post is something I thought would’ve been beneath you.

But alas, Trump II has made the once thoughtful and kind into complete dicks.
How did I not characterize it correctly?
 
Lutnick was raised on Long Island, not the Hamptons, the real, working class Long Island. He lost both his parents by the time he was 18, got his way into college on a partial tennis scholarship, 650 of his employees died on 9/11 when the plane hit the north tower. Since then, 25% of his firms profits have been given back to the families of said employees. It took him a couple decades to build the company back to what it was, understandably.

He’s known a lot of struggle, probably more than most. Has shown humongous gratitude and sacrifice and is the furthest thing from some ivory tower, out of touch hedge fund manager.

To cast aspersions based on an awkward comment that you haven’t even characterized correctly in your post is something I thought would’ve been beneath you.

But alas, Trump II has made the once thoughtful and kind into complete dicks.
What Lutnick interview were you talking about listening to earlier?
 
How did I not characterize it correctly?

He suggested that in the event a SS check didn’t show up one month, an honest person would call, understand the error, and not file suit when they were assured the checks would come the next month. He suggests a dishonest person screams bloody murder anytime they see a cash flow stoppage as an obvious allusion to USAID.

It was an awkward comment in an otherwise really good interview but he never suggested cutting off SS payments.
 
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