Nobody will give a shit in 6 - 12 months when DOGE is done. What was Trump's rating after January 6th? People have short attention spans. This will quickly dissipate and people will move on to the next thing to b#tch about.
More Than Half Of Americans View Musk Negatively: Poll
More than 60% of respondents to a new CNN poll said Musk does not have the right experience or judgement to execute Trump’s changes to the federal government.www.forbes.com
He is radioactive and his association with the company is causing the stock to drop. The stock has shed 1/3 of its value over the past month and that correlates to Musk inserting himself into domestic politics. It is problematic when the face of the company is disliked by over 50% of the country. He Dylan Mulvaneyed himself.
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Don't do it and arrest those that do. Like what more do you want me to say about that?
Cool. So what are you personally willing to give up in order to help alleviate the problem? I am one of the younger people on this forum. Social Security is 1/4 of the budget. Add in Medicare and we are up to a third. People want to be flippant with things that directly impact me cool, I get it. You know what doesn't impact me but is a huge, massive driver of the debt? Social Security and Medicare. Maybe old people can learn how to code or get their asses out to Walmart so we can start to really address the massive amount of spending the government does on them (33% of $6.75T) along with that massive $270 billion that is paid to lazy, unproductive suckers like me who go to work every day. (And if that sounds pretty dickheaded coming from me, I know. Now you know what Republican messaging around all of this sounds like to me.)
They can both go **** themselves. You guys don't see it now but both of those guys are hurting the conservative movement and the Republican Party. There is going to be a large MAGA hangover when this is all said and done.
I'm really sorry you're going through this IUCrazy2. You're a smart guy and I'm sure no matter what happens, you're going to land on your feet. I hope so, at least. It sounds like you haven't lost your job, though, is that right? Even if so, I get that it has to be stressful wondering what is coming down the pike.
What do you mean by "his cronies are data mining the entire government?"
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The aloha Conservative Party is dead. It’s a fractured party and people won’t go back. I vote maga or Dem. I won’t vote Cheney McCain bush. Not unlike Dems with progressives and old guard.
It’s just particularly unseemly when the chainsaw holder didn’t get a single vote. Stay strong. the waters will calm. Much of what’s being done will be rescinded, reinstated, etc. I think they know that. Constructive discharges abd discharges with the hope a bunch of people won’t fight/appeal etc
DOGE is pulled from Musk's companies. They go to the different departments and plug their private servers into the government systems and scrape data out of them.
DOGE Has ‘God Mode’ Access to Government Data
The president’s special commission now has an unprecedented ability to view and manipulate information at many federal agencies.
These are the people that are gathering it:
The People Carrying Out Musk’s Plans at DOGE
The Times identified more than 50 people within the so-called Department of Government Efficiency, a group formed by Elon Musk that in a short few weeks has radically upended federal agencies.
What do you think a tech bro with all that info and an AI hooked up to data mine the "5 things I did this week" could do with that information? You really think the world's richest man is loaning out that many people from his own organization out of a sense of altruism? I don't. That data is valuable.
True about short attention spans but I don't think Elon is going to step out of politics even after DOGE is done
So you think he's keeping/stealing it? Like what kind of data? Do you have support for this or are you just speculating?DOGE is pulled from Musk's companies. They go to the different departments and plug their private servers into the government systems and scrape data out of them.
DOGE Has ‘God Mode’ Access to Government Data
The president’s special commission now has an unprecedented ability to view and manipulate information at many federal agencies.www.theatlantic.com
These are the people that are gathering it:
The People Carrying Out Musk’s Plans at DOGE
The Times identified more than 50 people within the so-called Department of Government Efficiency, a group formed by Elon Musk that in a short few weeks has radically upended federal agencies.www.nytimes.com
What do you think a tech bro with all that info and an AI hooked up to data mine the "5 things I did this week" could do with that information? You really think the world's richest man is loaning out that many people from his own organization out of a sense of altruism? I don't. That data is valuable.
I think I will be fine, but yeah, the last 2 months have been stressful and I am read enough and know enough about the people pushing this to know that it is by design.
And that is kind of the infuriating part of all this. A haircut was needed and there were so many better ways to go about this but when you dig into things it becomes clear that the deficit isn't really the goal. It was either petty revenge or a power grab.
Thank you for the kind words though, I do appreciate it.
Yes. I’m speculating but have no doubt his Squad is keeping backups of everything.
Speculating they are keeping it. They are collecting the data listed in the articles.
My opinion, they are aggregating the data and it can and will be used to build AI systems to take over jobs. The government has financial analysts, accountants, doctors, lawyers, budget analysts, scientists, and on and on. Musk and the people from his company have access to all of their work. They get a run down every week of what those people did/do and can extrapolate the organizational flow from those emails. They are getting data they can monetize and like any good hundred billionaire I expect he will try to do that.
There is no definitive proof I can hand you though. I just don't trust the guy.
I don't know the law on this, but I suspect if he did that he'd go to jail for a long time.
Well, I don’t mean to minimize your pain, but the product the government, at all levels, has been selling has sucked. I’ve had to deal with the FDA, OSHA, NIOSH, the DOL, the IRS, state, county and local governments. And the interactions have been about 95% negative, wasteful and just plain stupid. As one of the millions of employers of the government, I, along with millions of others, wonder where we’re getting the value. And there’s no competition, so that I could go to the FDA’s alternative, for example.
So, after all these years and all the waste, someone is now kicking over all the furniture and breaking a good bit of it. Nothing was done - oh, but there was always a bunch of talk - and now something is being done. Good. Maybe somewhere down this road we’ll end up in a place where government can be seen as efficient, which no one has said ever.
As a result of all this some government employees are going to have to find their life’s work elsewhere. As a result of this Musk hate some Tesla employees are likely going to lose their jobs. The latter may end up with some collateral damage and death as well.
The whole Musk-is-the-devil shitshow is deranged and it definitely won’t end well.
Other than Twitter, are there recurring revenue dynamics? That’s a huge part of what Twenty’s point is. For tech / software companies, there is recurring revenue tied to subscriptions.
On top of that, there is tremendous operating leverage in tech companies, much better than you can ever achieve in manufacturing.
At Tesla now? I don't think so. If they are the ones to break the automated car, though, sure, why not?
While Tesla is undeniably a car company, it's also a data company, focusing on technology, software, and AI to drive innovation in electric vehicles and autonomous driving, as highlighted by CEO Elon Musk.
Here's a more detailed breakdown:
- Car Company Foundation:
Tesla was founded with the goal of building "a car manufacturer that is also a technology company".
- Data as a Core Asset:
Tesla emphasizes data collection, analysis, and interpretation to improve vehicle performance, enhance autonomous driving capabilities, and personalize customer experiences.
- Focus on Technology and Software:
Tesla views itself as a software company as much as a hardware company, with a focus on computing power and AI.
- Data Monetization:
Tesla is exploring ways to monetize the data it collects, including through insurance, hyper-targeted advertising, and potentially selling automotive data to other companies.
- AI and Robotics Emphasis:
Elon Musk has stated that investors should view Tesla as an AI robotics company, not just an automaker.
- Data-Driven Innovation:
Tesla's innovative use of automotive data solutions has set a new standard for the industry, demonstrating how leveraging data can improve vehicle performance, enhance autonomous driving capabilities, and provide a more personalized experience for customers.
- Digital Platform:
Tesla is building a digital platform for an autonomous fleet, similar to Uber and Airbnb.
They’d have to build a model like Waymo. It’s logically possible, but kind of insane that the market is already treating the stock as such.
Who’s going to prosecute Musk? Ed Martin? TRUMP’s DOJ? You don’t think Musk bought immunity with his $300 million
Maybe someday. Think we're talking years/decades. Definitely not something that validates a 100x+ multiple.
Former Waymo Head Doesn't Think Tesla Is Close To Ready To Deploy Robotaxis - The Autopian
I suppose on some level it isn’t exactly surprising that John Krafcik, the ex-CEO of Waymo (2015-2021) doesn’t think Tesla’s Cybercab will have what it takes to be an actual, functional self-driving taxi. Waymo currently operates robotaxi services in Phoenix, San Francisco, Los Angeles, and...
www.theautopian.com
Just listened to a two hour Lutnick interview, where he talks about him, Elon and the origins of DOGE. The deficit is absolutely the goal.
Ready fire aim is crap and everyone knows it. "We need this to be up tempo game so shoot everything from half court" isn't a plan.
He keeps "finding" waste, like 150 year olds receiving social security. Serious people look and discover that is a fat lie. But him and his minions still accept it and how the great Musk saviour has saved all this money from that, and other, lies.
It is clear his aim is to make social security so inefficient no one can sign up for it. I have posted two articles about closing offices but moving more things to office visits. No one has tried to counter those as wrong.
Firing based on probationary status in NO WAY is merit based. Crappy and great let go by random chance. Since anyone with a promotion is probationary it probably skews to better employees.
Bomb away from half-court guys, we will get lucky and some will go in. That replaces actual thinking and planning.
People are mad about Tesla being boycotted? Worried about 401K? Does anyone want a list of corporations boycotted by conservatives? What in the wise world of sports is the difference?
Who knows if really from Indiana. And he could be a boiler if so
I mean if I'm a Tesla shareholder I'm not real comfortable that Elon's grand long term plan for the company's success is apparently based upon Optimus.
Musk pleads with Tesla staff not to sell shares after Trump backlash
Billionaire insists prospects remain strong despite falling market capitalisation
www.telegraph.co.uk
What alibis would exist? I suppose someone could always feel the urge and be on the NBA shot clock. Happened to me when I was walking the dog--NBA shot clock started ticking down and I went into full scale panic mode and literally hid behind a bunch of bushes in someone's lawn. I did pick it up though.
Seriously, while the above story is true, I find it the destruction of property, private or otherwise to be completely disgusting. No excuses
They just take to the streets and burn down businesses. Wrecking teslas is in keeping
Maybe a tranny. S/he/it seems to be applying the feces to the car like lipstick on extended fingers.
Wouldn't that same logic hold true for the right wing boycotts of:
Apple: Donald Trump called for a nationwide boycott of Apple unless the company purposely weaken its phone encryption. Later, Conservatives called for a boycott because Apple wouldn't allow Parler on their App Store
Amazon: Because the Washington Post published articles which were critical of Donald Trump, and the Post is owned by Amazon's CEO, Jeff Bezos, Trump called for a boycott of Bezos's primary company, Amazon
AT & T: Donald Trump called for a boycott of the communications company in hopes that it would encourage AT&T to cancel CNN.
Bank of America After the company turned over account records for people involved in the January 6th Capitol insurrection, various Conservatives called for a boycott
Banks in general: Republicans in multiple states created bills that would force their state governments to end all business with any bank which mentioned climate change.
Barbie: Conservatives called for a boycott of the 2023 Barbie movie. Some even burned Barbie toys.
Bud Light: When the company announced a partnership with a transgender person and temporarily added rainbows to their can design, Republicans called for their followers to never drink the beer again. Conservatives even bought cases of the beer just so they could shoot them
Budweiser: After the company released an ad briefly showing the hate the company's immigrant founder received when he arrived in the USA, Republicans called for a boycott
Cisco: The company was one of many who spoke out against Georgia's racist anti-voter laws, and one that Republicans boycotted.
Coca-Cola: After Coke spoke out against Georgia's racist anti-voter laws, Conservatives called for the company's boycott. Trump also called for a boycott, but kept drinking Coke. Republicans also called for a boycott of the company because they prevented a law that would allow for religious discrimination in Georgia
There are other examples.
Arson, destruction of property, etc should never be allowed and should be punished. But there is awful lot of moral relativism lingering around. I'm sure there were plenty of republicans who had 401k programs that were invested in some of these publicly traded companies
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