New Yorkers Lining Up for Trump
- Thread starter stollcpa
- Start date
I keep getting told by the left that the Dems will win the House. So how exactly is Trump planning to do that?
Is that what all of your "in-the-know" Dem contacts are telling you, dmb?
You're hilarious, dude.
There’s no way I’d watch a rally but I guess that comedian really let it fly. The swifties are on fire bc he said kelce is going to be the next oj
the gop is going to cheat, they can not win fairly. johnson will not certify the election. They will have a lawsuit going to the trumps supreme court, They cheat again by passing the voice of the people. The Dems must get out the vote and win the house of Represenatives.
There's a reason that presidential cycles usually aren't compared to or contrasted with mid-terms. They're very different electorates.
Sticking with Wisconsin, there were 3.3m votes cast there in 2020 -- but there were only 2.6m votes cast in 2022 (and they had a hotly contested Senate election). And this is very typical in any state.
Look, I don't have any idea how the election is going to turn out. I'm just saying that the 2020 election in Wisconsin was very close (Biden's winning margin was only 0.6%). And, all told, Harris seems to be running behind Biden in most places by somewhere between 3-5 points.
Biden's winning margin in Michigan was 2.8% -- so almost 5 times as much, percentagewise, as his margin in Wisconsin.
And, as I said, the polling in Wisconsin in both 2016 and 2020 badly undercounted Trump (by over 6% both times...that's a lot).
Does that mean this will happen again? Of course not. But the 2022 election doesn't really give us any indication one way or the other.
It is, which Trump already considers a win because he can declare victory on Election Night and then unleash his avalanche of lies about election fraud in districts where he'll do badly. We're in for a rough several weeks because of this selfish, ego-maniacal asshole.
Oh, and as for strategists, I would take anything that any of them say with a grain of salt. That goes for Dems and Republicans alike. Every single thing they say is designed to try to shape public opinion, not to analyze it.
There are some smart and well-informed people out there who make a good faith effort to give their opinions on where things stand. But the vast majority of the people we hear from are mouthpieces for one camp or the other. It's always interesting to go back and evaluate things they say before an election to how things actually turned out.
I disagree. Do you know what "ghost voters" are? There was a surge of them in 2022 (a majority were young women) who weren't captured by the polls. There are an unknown number of ghost voters who will again add to the turnout, probably significantly, this time around. States like Wisconsin, which allows voters to register on Election Day, help facilitate this phenomenon.
I'm curious what would cause you to say this definitively. In other words, isn't it possible that these voters already got in the process in 2022? What if the "unknown number" turns out to be low?
You seem awfully confident in something you really shouldn't be.
You tend to be condescending. It's a bad look.
There's been a recent (past several months) surge in voter registrations, including in a majority of swing states. Voter registrations obviously aren't the same thing as actual votes, but women in particular were galvanized by Dobbs in 2022 and there's ample research strongly suggesting that the abortion issue will bring infrequent and never-before voters to the polls this year. Pre-election polling has difficulty capturing those ghost voters. And the Taylor Swift effect. Ha ha.
You have to be one of the most dislikable people on Earth. Just not a single redeeming thing about you. Just an awful personality and way about you. Like nails on a chalkboard
I'm not condescending -- not to most people, anyway. I've just never been a big fan of tribalists. I think you guys are a scourge on our politics.
You really can't help yourself, can you? Again jumping into a discussion that you weren't participating in with a personal attack. Picking another fight.
Why are you unable to regulate your emotions? Isn't there something you can/should be doing to get that under control? Seriously, you need to make that a priority.
Shhhhhhhhh. I said my peace. You’re cringe. No wonder you love Harris and walz
Crazed is a great poster. Not condescending. You get triggered bc he’s in a long line of posters who will hand you your ass
This ny rally was a disaster. It’s carrying the headlines. PRs in PA. Very, very dumb. Hopefully Harris just carries on with the dumb fascist crap
Two terrible candidates running terrible campaigns. Shocker
He's got the mother's of all girls raped and murdered by the illegals Harris let in on stage speaking right now. Brilliant!
And you think people give a shit about a comedian's joke. 😂
I absolutely think people care. That’s a sanctioned event campaign event not a rogue comedian at funny bone. In a state that impt with a race that close there are no words for how stupid that was. That morning I’d have issued an apology for that comedian and said that he in no way represents our views and had we know he’d say such things we’d never have booked him
And that when I win the election I’ll be making the great number 5, Albert POOHOLES, director of the president’s council on sports LFG!!!!!
LET. HIM. COOK!!!!!!!!!!!
Boy that Mr daughtry is quite the upstart. Really making a name for himself this election
Idon't think Enten is particularly astute in most cases, but he seems to have accidentally stumbled on to the fact that the polls are underestimating Dems. The miss was +4 in 2022, and Trump hasn't won an election since 2016...
The problem with Enton's analysis is he doesn't tell us why the poll margins are so tight, with Trump even having a slight edge in some states. Ho does everything but come out and admit that the MAGAs have deliberately cooked the books like they did in 2022,and that both both 538 and RCP have been complicit in allowing this to happen by including the type of trash polls DBM posts incessantly in their polling aggregate... It's clear as day that is what happened in 2016, as anyone who goes back and reads DBM's posting of garbage polls can attest...
As people who keep track of these facts point out the polls thruout the GOP Primary process consistently overestimated the share of the vote Trump would get, in multiple states and often by double digits. That was the case even in a state like IN where Trump didn't come close to attaining the margins the polls predicted...
It would be the current House, not the 2024 winners that would make the decision...
@dbmhoosier this is really a showdown son
Cosmicbowl vs dbmbailey.
What a November!!!! The PROBLEM CHILD Tyson trailer dropped on Netflix btw
And it is estimated that Trump had another 40,000 people outside MSG cheering him on even though they knew they could not get inside.
Last edited:
