National Mask Mandate

[Courtsensetwo]

One of Biden's first campaign promises is to implement a national mask mandate.

I am 100% in favor and will be all over him if he breaks it.

How do posters here believe he will role this out and more importantly how will it be enforced? I struggle seeing every local sheriff's office running to every Home Depot and grocery store every time some "he is not my Pres" clown decides to take a stand.

 

[Marvin the Martian]

One of Biden's first campaign promises is to implement a national mask mandate.

I am 100% in favor and will be all over him if he breaks it.

How do posters here believe he will role this out and more importantly how will it be enforced? I struggle seeing every local sheriff's office running to every Home Depot and grocery store every time some "he is not my Pres" clown decides to take a stand.

There has to be some federal money pile he can withhold from jurisdictions. That would seem most effective to me. I do not know if there are existing money pools, or if a carrot money pool needs created.

 

[mcmurtry66]

There has to be some federal money pile he can withhold from jurisdictions. That would seem most effective to me. I do not know if there are existing money pools, or if a carrot money pool needs created.

Yep. This is his only leverage other than the power of persuasion.

 

[meridian]

There has to be some federal money pile he can withhold from jurisdictions. That would seem most effective to me. I do not know if there are existing money pools, or if a carrot money pool needs created.

What makes you think the money is/will be still available? What do you think Trump, Junior, and Ivanka have been doing for the last 4 years?

 

[UncleMark]

There has to be some federal money pile he can withhold from jurisdictions. That would seem most effective to me. I do not know if there are existing money pools, or if a carrot money pool needs created.

The Federal "mandate" to raise the drinking age to 21 was done by threatening to withhold highway funds from any state that didn't do it. I personally thought that was an outrageous usurpation of state sovereignty, and wouldn't be in favor of that kind of tactic with masking either. Making new funds available to states who chose to mandate masks would be a much better approach.

That said, that egg is scrambled. Good consistent messaging and modeling from the beginning would have had a huge effect, but I don't know how much influence a Biden administration could have with masking in that regard after Trump poisoned that well.

 

[SoccerSammy]

If there is a mandate I’ll never wear one again. Im not alone

 

[zeke4ahs]

If there is a mandate I’ll never wear one again. Im not alone

That will show them. Lol

 

[The Vid]

If there is a mandate I’ll never wear one again. Im not alone

 

[Stuffshot]

If there is a mandate I’ll never wear one again. Im not alone

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[UncleMark]

If there is a mandate I’ll never wear one again. Im not alone

You should also stick your fingers in your ears and yell LALALALALALALALALALA

 

[The Vid]

If there is a mandate I’ll never wear one again. Im not alone

How do you feel about Biden flipping your home state of Georgia? I think it’s hilarious. Texas on deck

 

[mcmurtry66]

You should also stick your fingers in your ears and yell LALALALALALALALALALA

I am obsessed with no lockdowns and when I see people against masks I just want to cry

 

[Bulk VanderHuge]

If there is a mandate I’ll never wear one again. Im not alone

 

[Standard Issue]

If there is a mandate I’ll never wear one again. Im not alone

That's because you're a rugged individual.

 

[bawlmer]

One of Biden's first campaign promises is to implement a national mask mandate.

I am 100% in favor and will be all over him if he breaks it.

How do posters here believe he will role this out and more importantly how will it be enforced? I struggle seeing every local sheriff's office running to every Home Depot and grocery store every time some "he is not my Pres" clown decides to take a stand.

It's not a federal mandate, but calling for a cooperative approach at the state and local level based on data.

From MarketWatch - Speaking in Wilmington, while on the campaign trail, Biden vowed to push for more Americans to wear masks. “First, I’ll go to every governor and urge them to mandate mask wearing in their states, and, if they refuse, I’ll go to the mayors and county executives and get local mask requirements in place nationwide,” Biden said. Trump recently referred to mask wearing as "politically correct.”

 

[SoccerSammy]

It's not a federal mandate, but calling for a cooperative approach at the state and local level based on data.

From MarketWatch - Speaking in Wilmington, while on the campaign trail, Biden vowed to push for more Americans to wear masks. “First, I’ll go to every governor and urge them to mandate mask wearing in their states, and, if they refuse, I’ll go to the mayors and county executives and get local mask requirements in place nationwide,” Biden said. Trump recently referred to mask wearing as "politically correct.”

Forgive me if incorrect but I think Biden used the phrase “federal mask mandate” during 2nd debate. As a Libertarian that scares the hell out of me

 

[Bulk VanderHuge]

Forgive me if incorrect but I think Biden used the phrase “federal mask mandate” during 2nd debate. As a Libertarian that scares the hell out of me

How about as a caring human?

 

[Courtsensetwo]

It's not a federal mandate, but calling for a cooperative approach at the state and local level based on data.

From MarketWatch - Speaking in Wilmington, while on the campaign trail, Biden vowed to push for more Americans to wear masks. “First, I’ll go to every governor and urge them to mandate mask wearing in their states, and, if they refuse, I’ll go to the mayors and county executives and get local mask requirements in place nationwide,” Biden said. Trump recently referred to mask wearing as "politically correct.”

So he has backed it off already?

 

[Courtsensetwo]

If there is a mandate I’ll never wear one again. Im not alone

Sorry to hear that. We might disagree on many things but i would have thought you were a decent human being.

 

[mcmurtry66]

So he has backed it off already?

No his msg has been consistent

 

[SoccerSammy]

Sorry to hear that. We might disagree on many things but i would have thought you were a decent human being.

I am. Promise. And if I ever start coughing I’ll put one on

 

[The Vid]

Forgive me if incorrect but I think Biden used the phrase “federal mask mandate” during 2nd debate. As a Libertarian that scares the hell out of me

Drama queen much?

 

[mcmurtry66]

I am. Promise. And if I ever start coughing I’ll put one on

you can have it and never cough etc. i believe they help but who the F knows. just slap one on and call it taking one for the team. this isn't the battle to draw a line in the sand over. if they shut your business down and tell you to take a federal loan to provide for your family because there was a case bump in your county i'll get behind you with a blowhorn. but these masks are as easy as a bracelet supporting cancer brother. if the 300 lb checker at wartmart can slog through a shift with one on you can slap one on too. there isn't that much principle involved to take a stand on this one.

 

[bawlmer]

Forgive me if incorrect but I think Biden used the phrase “federal mask mandate” during 2nd debate. As a Libertarian that scares the hell out of me

I think he did say something about a mask mandate. But I also think I read this week that he wants to take a persuasion/collaboration approach. That makes more sense than coming out with a federal mask mandate.

 

[Stuffshot]

I am. Promise. And if I ever start coughing I’ll put one on

Just curious. Do you object to those laws that restrict where you can shit?

Surely, a "decent human being" like you say you are doesn't want to spread disease with his breath any more than with his ass.

 

[ulrey]

That will show them. Lol

Will the virus simply just disappear with everyone wearing a mask?

 

[Stuffshot]

Will the virus simply just disappear with everyone wearing a mask?

Masks will help keep businesses open in hopes that vaccines can be developed later.

 

[ulrey]

Masks will help keep businesses open in hopes that vaccines can be developed later.

are we all not wearing masks in public..? Basically the last 2 months

 

[sglowrider]

Masking isnt enough. The communication strategy is critical -- without that, mandatory masking will fail. Ge the folks who used to do the old AT&T adverts. I still tear up watching them.

Track & trace needs to be buffed up.

Then you will need to make things easier for people to quarantine. Pay them for staying at home.

But I hate to be the bearer of evil tidings, but things will get worse in the next couple of months.

By the time Biden comes around, the task on hand will be gargantuan ... and I am not sure mandatory masking will be the only top priority.

The issue is when the healthcare infra capacity will start to break. I know some are creaking already.

Once it passes that critical point, then the mortality rates of 1%-1.5% will be blown out of the water and closer to 5% to 8% at worst if March 2020 was any indication.

Increasing the capacity of the healthcare infra will be Biden's main priority -- not just hardware but the millions of medical frontline workers will be exhausted by then.

You may have to import crews from abroad.

 

[ulrey]

If there is a mandate I’ll never wear one again. Im not alone

i figured the mail in ballots in Pennsylvania cured the Rona

 

[Stuffshot]

are we all not wearing masks in public..? Basically the last 2 months

No, of course not. Don't you have a TV or favorite neighborhood bar that has a TV?

 

[ulrey]

No, of course not. Don't you have a TV or favorite neighborhood bar that has a TV?

of course and the looters, protesters and gay parades.

 

[kkott]

you can have it and never cough etc. i believe they help but who the F knows. just slap one on and call it taking one for the team. this isn't the battle to draw a line in the sand over. if they shut your business down and tell you to take a federal loan to provide for your family because there was a case bump in your county i'll get behind you with a blowhorn. but these masks are as easy as a bracelet supporting cancer brother. if the 300 lb checker at wartmart can slog through a shift with one on you can slap one on too. there isn't that much principle involved to take a stand on this one.

There's no question masks help. In countries where people abide by the law or request, they have controlled it to a great degree. In late October Taiwan hadn't had a case of local transmission for 200+ days. Yet so many Americans still refuse and argue about their benefit, after no reputable Scientist does... but Trumptards know better!

PS. I had covid about a month ago... Got it because of a bunch of (mostly) Trumptard Fox News-watchers who got together, sans masks, for a weeklong dance event in Myrtle Beach. Last I heard, there were at least 5 deaths from attendees who got covid. I watched a dog for a friend and as a thank you, she gave me covid. I had very mild symptoms with no cough.

 

[82hoosier]

If there is a mandate I’ll never wear one again. Im not alone

Never Say Never. You might be persuaded by 200,000 cases daily.

 

[jet812]

If there is a mandate I’ll never wear one again. Im not alone

Do you refuse to wear a seatbelt too?

 

[DCDAVID]

The scientific benefits of wearing masks are clear.
Unfortunately, due to Trumps inexplicable mission to imply that masks are useless/being a weenie/unpatriotic, implementing a mask mandate will be nearly impossible as many feel that non-mask wearing is an expression of freedom. Positioning mask wearing in a political manner, due to thinking downplaying the virus would help HIM get re-elected, is one of the most insidious things Trump did in the past 4 years (and that’s saying a lot).

Thankfully Soccersammy was not around in times that the nation had to rally together, such as WW2, as he would have whined about his company being directed to manufacture weapons, rationing or perhaps being drafted. Thankfully there are still a number of Americans that have a sense of the greater good rather than bitching about the apparently inhumane/unbearable travesty of having to wear a mask to protect fellow citizens in which they come into contact. Boo f’ng boo hoo. Wear a friggin mask and less people will die and we will get out of this situation earlier.

 

[SoccerSammy]

The scientific benefits of wearing masks are clear.
Unfortunately, due to Trumps inexplicable mission to imply that masks are useless/being a weenie/unpatriotic, implementing a mask mandate will be nearly impossible as many feel that non-mask wearing is an expression of freedom. Positioning mask wearing in a political manner, due to thinking downplaying the virus would help HIM get re-elected, is one of the most insidious things Trump did in the past 4 years (and that’s saying a lot).

Thankfully Soccersammy was not around in times that the nation had to rally together, such as WW2, as he would have whined about his company being directed to manufacture weapons, rationing or perhaps being drafted. Thankfully there are still a number of Americans that have a sense of the greater good rather than bitching about the apparently inhumane/unbearable travesty of having to wear a mask to protect fellow citizens in which they come into contact. Boo f’ng boo hoo. Wear a friggin mask and less people will die and we will get out of this situation earlier.

guess what??? The science in asymptomatic people ain't that great

 

[DCDAVID]

guess what??? The science in asymptomatic people ain't that great

Not sure what you mean by your reply.

Meaning what? No one should wear masks, they aren’t beneficial, it’s a wild coincidence that states that opened up without mask mandates immediately had an uptick??

The CDC estimates that 40% of Covid carriers are asymptotic. I think my odds, of not catching it from you, would better if you wore a mask rather than me depending on your self diagnosis (ie your comment that you will put a mask on if you cough).

I‘m not implying that masks are the complete solution (far from it) but what a conincendence that Covid has raged throughout the macho-mans non-mask administration but has not run through the more careful Biden advisors. What could we, or should we, do to comply with your libertartan sensibilities?

 

[Bloom.]

The Federal "mandate" to raise the drinking age to 21 was done by threatening to withhold highway funds from any state that didn't do it. I personally thought that was an outrageous usurpation of state sovereignty, and wouldn't be in favor of that kind of tactic with masking either. Making new funds available to states who chose to mandate masks would be a much better approach.

That said, that egg is scrambled. Good consistent messaging and modeling from the beginning would have had a huge effect, but I don't know how much influence a Biden administration could have with masking in that regard after Trump poisoned that well.

It works that way when you're about offer up another round of funding, as it will likely be.

The federal government's only leverage is funding. The state's only leverage is licensed businesses. A city/county's leverage is liquor licenses or health code violations, and that's what's happening in Carmel, granted on hit and miss terms.

It only takes someone to complain to send the police in to check out the place, and they have done anything from asking patrons to where their mask while not sitting to closing off a business from allowing additional patrons until its complied.

Plan B is for the business to lose their liquor license or pay fines toward keeping it.

Governments have leverage that don't even come close to violating rights, and it's funny licensing to people whine about those rights.

If there is a mandate I’ll never wear one again. Im not alone

The fake tough guy.

Will the virus simply just disappear with everyone wearing a mask?

It will certainly slow down its spread.

 

[DCDAVID]

Will the virus simply just disappear with everyone wearing a mask?

Sorry to say this but your response sounds like something a second grader would say. Literally zero infectious scientist/specialists/doctors have said mask wearing will make the virus “disappear“. They do say, however, that masks will help reduce the rate of transmission.