Close as I can come are Dave Eggers, Jonathon Franzen, Ian McEwan Colton Whitehead….@larsIU @Bulk VanderHuge McMurtry Irving McCarthy Conroy. So I feel like we are stuck in time. What authors are today’s version of these guys? Who are they?
Close as I can come are Dave Eggers, Jonathon Franzen, Ian McEwan Colton Whitehead….@larsIU @Bulk VanderHuge McMurtry Irving McCarthy Conroy. So I feel like we are stuck in time. What authors are today’s version of these guys? Who are they?
I’ve never read whitehead. Love Eggers but he’s a notch below imo. Hwosg is a treasure but the volume of the four mentioned is another league. McCarthy back to sutree etc. franzen Is great but he’s got to be mid 60s. Corrections has to be 25 years old. I mean published in the last five or even ten years. New namesClose as I can come are Dave Eggers, Jonathon Franzen, Ian McEwan Colton Whitehead….
Oh I don’t know that anyone measures up to those previously mentioned. Sometimes I’ll read and think this is a great author and they are a one hit wonder. A few more: Frederick Bachman, Barbara Kingsolver ( her latest is a masterpiece), Gabrielle Zevin, Louise Ehrich, and Kevin Wilson ( he’s probably closest to criteria, although not sure how old he is).I’ve never read whitehead. Love Eggers but he’s a notch below imo. Hwosg is a treasure but the volume of the four mentioned is another league. McCarthy back to sutree etc. franzen Is great but he’s got to be mid 60s. Corrections has to be 25 years old. I mean published in the last five or even ten years. New names
Rock is kinda dead. Nickelback had the last rock song to hit #1 on the Billboard charts in 2001.But I don’t know if that’s true. Maybe it is. But maybe we just aren’t in the loop?
I think Daniel Woodrell will be one that we remember from the current generation. I’ve read all of his books and they are all great. Plus he got gigged by Bourdain in a No Reservations episode.@larsIU @Bulk VanderHuge McMurtry Irving McCarthy Conroy. So I feel like we are stuck in time. What authors are today’s version of these guys? Who are they?
Good one!I think Daniel Woodrell will be one that we remember from the current generation. I’ve read all of his books and they are all great. Plus he got gigged by Bourdain in a No Reservations episode.
And winter’s bone is a great book and movieI think Daniel Woodrell will be one that we remember from the current generation. I’ve read all of his books and they are all great. Plus he got gigged by Bourdain in a No Reservations episode.
Under the Bright Lights (Henry Holt, 1986)
- Woe to Live On (Henry Holt, 1987)
- Muscle for the Wing (Henry Holt, 1988)
- The Ones You Do (Henry Holt, 1992)
- Give Us a Kiss: A Country Noir (Henry Holt, 1996)
- Tomato Red (Henry Holt, 1998)
- The Death of Sweet Mister (Putnam, 2001)
- Winter's Bone (Little, Brown, 2006)
- The Bayou Trilogy (Mulholland Books, 2011) (an omnibus volume collecting Under the Bright Lights, Muscle for the Wing, and The Ones You Do)
- The Outlaw Album (Little, Brown, 2011)
- The Maid's Version (Little, Brown, 2013)
Uh, I was joking.probably a good time. game of throwns spin off, barry, succession, etc
Great more books for the list.I think Daniel Woodrell will be one that we remember from the current generation. I’ve read all of his books and they are all great. Plus he got gigged by Bourdain in a No Reservations episode.
Under the Bright Lights (Henry Holt, 1986)
- Woe to Live On (Henry Holt, 1987)
- Muscle for the Wing (Henry Holt, 1988)
- The Ones You Do (Henry Holt, 1992)
- Give Us a Kiss: A Country Noir (Henry Holt, 1996)
- Tomato Red (Henry Holt, 1998)
- The Death of Sweet Mister (Putnam, 2001)
- Winter's Bone (Little, Brown, 2006)
- The Bayou Trilogy (Mulholland Books, 2011) (an omnibus volume collecting Under the Bright Lights, Muscle for the Wing, and The Ones You Do)
- The Outlaw Album (Little, Brown, 2011)
- The Maid's Version (Little, Brown, 2013)
Good choice.Great more books for the list.
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Yeah, I need to move beyond the 60-80's. Even the stuff I read that was written in the 90's and aughts was written by folks who peaked in the 60's-80's.
BAsed on this thread alone I finally picked up Nobody's Fool. At least it was written in the 90's.
He’s fantastic. His other books are better. Co-sign on eraGreat more books for the list.
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Yeah, I need to move beyond the 60-80's. Even the stuff I read that was written in the 90's and aughts was written by folks who peaked in the 60's-80's.
BAsed on this thread alone I finally picked up Nobody's Fool. At least it was written in the 90's.
I don't think of these writers as the same type as McCarthy, McMurtry, etc. For lack of a better term, the writers McMurt is talking about are masculine writers. We could have a whole thread about what makes something masculine vs. feminine vs. whatever in writing.Close as I can come are Dave Eggers, Jonathon Franzen, Ian McEwan Colton Whitehead….
I’ve never read whitehead. Love Eggers but he’s a notch below imo. Hwosg is a treasure but the volume of the four mentioned is another league. McCarthy back to sutree etc. franzen Is great but he’s got to be mid 60s. Corrections has to be 25 years old. I mean published in the last five or even ten years. New names
Oh I get that now. McMurty for sure and mostly Conroy, but one of my favorites was Prince of Tides and that wasn’t masculine point of view. I guess of all those I think Eggers is closest.I don't think of these writers as the same type as McCarthy, McMurtry, etc. For lack of a better term, the writers McMurt is talking about are masculine writers. We could have a whole thread about what makes something masculine vs. feminine vs. whatever in writing.
Not to go all CoH here, but the current lack of masculine writing might have something to do with our present culture.
Coetzee is an older guy now, but he's another I might put in this list.
For muscular prose, you can also look to Chuck Palahniuk but he's older now.Oh I get that now. McMurty for sure and mostly Conroy, but one of my favorites was Prince of Tides and that wasn’t masculine point of view. I guess of all those I think Eggers is closest.
@mcmurtry66 have you watched it? Sorry.. too lazy to scroll through all of the posts.Quick recommendation if it hasn’t already been posted. Watch “Jury Duty” on Amazon Prime.
Binged it one night when I couldn’t sleep (baby). Told my wife it was worth watching a few weeks ago and she ignored me. She started watching today and loves it.
Basically, a show where everyone is an actor except for one person who thinks it’s a legit trial. And that one person is a good, entertaining guy.
No I will. I’m almost caught up with vanderpump rules and will need something to binge@mcmurtry66 have you watched it? Sorry.. too lazy to scroll through all of the posts.
Omg where do we start with VPR. Wife loves that stuff. James Kennedy is DJing in Denver and I feel like I should buy tix as a Mother’s Day present.No I will. I’m almost caught up with vanderpump rules and will need something to binge
I can hardly even believe how good it is.Omg where do we start with VPR. Wife loves that stuff. James Kennedy is DJing in Denver and I feel like I should buy tix as a Mother’s Day present.
And the cheating scandal..
That Raquel is somethin else. Man she’s trouble.Omg where do we start with VPR. Wife loves that stuff. James Kennedy is DJing in Denver and I feel like I should buy tix as a Mother’s Day present.
And the cheating scandal..
No I will. I’m almost caught up with vanderpump rules and will need something to binge
Omg where do we start with VPR. Wife loves that stuff. James Kennedy is DJing in Denver and I feel like I should buy tix as a Mother’s Day present.
And the cheating scandal..
I can hardly even believe how good it is.
That Raquel is somethin else. Man she’s trouble.
I don’t even know what he’s talking about. I assume it’s something soccer related? Which team does Vanderpump play for? Or is that some Dutch club?@Univee2 @BradStevens @Bulk VanderHuge @zeke4ahs @UncleMark
Ok, I know McM has had it rough but this stuff predates even that. We're either gonna need a ruling or an intervention here. Maybe both.
do we have any 3 strike laws
Just screams Eurovision.I don’t even know what he’s talking about. I assume it’s something soccer related? Which team does Vanderpump play for? Or is that some Dutch club?
My 27 yo daughter loves VPR.Just screams Eurovision.
Is it a hair salon?My 27 yo daughter loves VPR.
I don’t even know what she’s talking about.
I’m getting out some of the ‘68 dope. I don’t know what any of this stuff means. Gonna sit here on the front porch, after just finishing the trimming around the yard and before mowing the back half of the back, and let the zen take me back to Linda Ronstadt and The Stone Poneys. Carry on.@Univee2 @BradStevens @Bulk VanderHuge @zeke4ahs @UncleMark
Ok, I know McM has had it rough but this stuff predates even that. We're either gonna need a ruling or an intervention here. Maybe both.
do we have any 3 strike laws
An appropriate recusal.I’m getting out some of the ‘68 dope. I don’t know what any of this stuff means. Gonna sit here on the front porch, after just finishing the trimming around the yard and before mowing the back half of the back, and let the zen take me back to Linda Ronstadt and The Stone Poneys. Carry on.
27? Set her up with McMurt!My 27 yo daughter loves VPR.
I don’t even know what she’s talking about.
Nah…he would invite his team to the wedding. I don’t need all the lawyers, guns, and money at the church.27? Set her up with McMurt!
It took me a couple episodes but now I’m all in. Roger has to be wondering how he got stuck with these crazies, and what an a$$ James Marsden is. The crutches chair…. LolQuick recommendation if it hasn’t already been posted. Watch “Jury Duty” on Amazon Prime.
Binged it one night when I couldn’t sleep (baby). Told my wife it was worth watching a few weeks ago and she ignored me. She started watching today and loves it.
Basically, a show where everyone is an actor except for one person who thinks it’s a legit trial. And that one person is a good, entertaining guy.
These are chair pants.. or chants.. lolIt took me a couple episodes but now I’m all in. Roger has to be wondering how he got stuck with these crazies, and what an a$$ James Marsden is. The crutches chair…. Lol
Why is it better than YoutubeTV?BREAKING NEWS!!!!! I'VE REACH A CONCLUSION
Direct Tv stream is the way to go. Local stations. Discovery. History. Everything. Price on par with the other streaming. It's the winner over youtubetv, fubo, hulu live, sling.
History channel and others not on YouTube tv.Why is it better than YoutubeTV?
So you like shows about alien abductions and alien conspiracy theories?History channel and others not on YouTube tv.
And Bigfoot and pickers and pawn stars and alone and othersSo you like shows about alien abductions and alien conspiracy theories?