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Close as I can come are Dave Eggers, Jonathon Franzen, Ian McEwan Colton Whitehead….
I’ve never read whitehead. Love Eggers but he’s a notch below imo. Hwosg is a treasure but the volume of the four mentioned is another league. McCarthy back to sutree etc. franzen Is great but he’s got to be mid 60s. Corrections has to be 25 years old. I mean published in the last five or even ten years. New names
 
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I’ve never read whitehead. Love Eggers but he’s a notch below imo. Hwosg is a treasure but the volume of the four mentioned is another league. McCarthy back to sutree etc. franzen Is great but he’s got to be mid 60s. Corrections has to be 25 years old. I mean published in the last five or even ten years. New names
Oh I don’t know that anyone measures up to those previously mentioned. Sometimes I’ll read and think this is a great author and they are a one hit wonder. A few more: Frederick Bachman, Barbara Kingsolver ( her latest is a masterpiece), Gabrielle Zevin, Louise Ehrich, and Kevin Wilson ( he’s probably closest to criteria, although not sure how old he is).
 
After I wrote that I just saw that Barbara Kingsolver’s Demon Copperhead just won the Pulitzer.
 
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But I don’t know if that’s true. Maybe it is. But maybe we just aren’t in the loop?
Rock is kinda dead. Nickelback had the last rock song to hit #1 on the Billboard charts in 2001.

Sucks.

Regarding today's best authors, Ishiguro is strong, but not a writer of Westerns. Would be cool if he wrote one, though.
 
@larsIU @Bulk VanderHuge McMurtry Irving McCarthy Conroy. So I feel like we are stuck in time. What authors are today’s version of these guys? Who are they?
I think Daniel Woodrell will be one that we remember from the current generation. I’ve read all of his books and they are all great. Plus he got gigged by Bourdain in a No Reservations episode.

Under the Bright Lights (Henry Holt, 1986)

  • Woe to Live On (Henry Holt, 1987)
  • Muscle for the Wing (Henry Holt, 1988)
  • The Ones You Do (Henry Holt, 1992)
  • Give Us a Kiss: A Country Noir (Henry Holt, 1996)
  • Tomato Red (Henry Holt, 1998)
  • The Death of Sweet Mister (Putnam, 2001)
  • Winter's Bone (Little, Brown, 2006)
  • The Bayou Trilogy (Mulholland Books, 2011) (an omnibus volume collecting Under the Bright Lights, Muscle for the Wing, and The Ones You Do)
  • The Outlaw Album (Little, Brown, 2011)
  • The Maid's Version (Little, Brown, 2013)
 
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I think Daniel Woodrell will be one that we remember from the current generation. I’ve read all of his books and they are all great. Plus he got gigged by Bourdain in a No Reservations episode.

Under the Bright Lights (Henry Holt, 1986)

  • Woe to Live On (Henry Holt, 1987)
  • Muscle for the Wing (Henry Holt, 1988)
  • The Ones You Do (Henry Holt, 1992)
  • Give Us a Kiss: A Country Noir (Henry Holt, 1996)
  • Tomato Red (Henry Holt, 1998)
  • The Death of Sweet Mister (Putnam, 2001)
  • Winter's Bone (Little, Brown, 2006)
  • The Bayou Trilogy (Mulholland Books, 2011) (an omnibus volume collecting Under the Bright Lights, Muscle for the Wing, and The Ones You Do)
  • The Outlaw Album (Little, Brown, 2011)
  • The Maid's Version (Little, Brown, 2013)
And winter’s bone is a great book and movie
 
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I think Daniel Woodrell will be one that we remember from the current generation. I’ve read all of his books and they are all great. Plus he got gigged by Bourdain in a No Reservations episode.

Under the Bright Lights (Henry Holt, 1986)

  • Woe to Live On (Henry Holt, 1987)
  • Muscle for the Wing (Henry Holt, 1988)
  • The Ones You Do (Henry Holt, 1992)
  • Give Us a Kiss: A Country Noir (Henry Holt, 1996)
  • Tomato Red (Henry Holt, 1998)
  • The Death of Sweet Mister (Putnam, 2001)
  • Winter's Bone (Little, Brown, 2006)
  • The Bayou Trilogy (Mulholland Books, 2011) (an omnibus volume collecting Under the Bright Lights, Muscle for the Wing, and The Ones You Do)
  • The Outlaw Album (Little, Brown, 2011)
  • The Maid's Version (Little, Brown, 2013)
Great more books for the list.

@mcmurtry66

Yeah, I need to move beyond the 60-80's. Even the stuff I read that was written in the 90's and aughts was written by folks who peaked in the 60's-80's.

BAsed on this thread alone I finally picked up Nobody's Fool. At least it was written in the 90's.
 
Great more books for the list.

@mcmurtry66

Yeah, I need to move beyond the 60-80's. Even the stuff I read that was written in the 90's and aughts was written by folks who peaked in the 60's-80's.

BAsed on this thread alone I finally picked up Nobody's Fool. At least it was written in the 90's.
Good choice.
Good movie, too.
 
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Great more books for the list.

@mcmurtry66

Yeah, I need to move beyond the 60-80's. Even the stuff I read that was written in the 90's and aughts was written by folks who peaked in the 60's-80's.

BAsed on this thread alone I finally picked up Nobody's Fool. At least it was written in the 90's.
He’s fantastic. His other books are better. Co-sign on era
 
Close as I can come are Dave Eggers, Jonathon Franzen, Ian McEwan Colton Whitehead….
I don't think of these writers as the same type as McCarthy, McMurtry, etc. For lack of a better term, the writers McMurt is talking about are masculine writers. We could have a whole thread about what makes something masculine vs. feminine vs. whatever in writing.

Not to go all CoH here, but the current lack of masculine writing might have something to do with our present culture.

Coetzee is an older guy now, but he's another I might put in this list.
 
I’ve never read whitehead. Love Eggers but he’s a notch below imo. Hwosg is a treasure but the volume of the four mentioned is another league. McCarthy back to sutree etc. franzen Is great but he’s got to be mid 60s. Corrections has to be 25 years old. I mean published in the last five or even ten years. New names
I don't think of these writers as the same type as McCarthy, McMurtry, etc. For lack of a better term, the writers McMurt is talking about are masculine writers. We could have a whole thread about what makes something masculine vs. feminine vs. whatever in writing.

Not to go all CoH here, but the current lack of masculine writing might have something to do with our present culture.

Coetzee is an older guy now, but he's another I might put in this list.
Oh I get that now. McMurty for sure and mostly Conroy, but one of my favorites was Prince of Tides and that wasn’t masculine point of view. I guess of all those I think Eggers is closest.
 
Oh I get that now. McMurty for sure and mostly Conroy, but one of my favorites was Prince of Tides and that wasn’t masculine point of view. I guess of all those I think Eggers is closest.
For muscular prose, you can also look to Chuck Palahniuk but he's older now.
 
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Quick recommendation if it hasn’t already been posted. Watch “Jury Duty” on Amazon Prime.

Binged it one night when I couldn’t sleep (baby). Told my wife it was worth watching a few weeks ago and she ignored me. She started watching today and loves it.

Basically, a show where everyone is an actor except for one person who thinks it’s a legit trial. And that one person is a good, entertaining guy.
 
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Quick recommendation if it hasn’t already been posted. Watch “Jury Duty” on Amazon Prime.

Binged it one night when I couldn’t sleep (baby). Told my wife it was worth watching a few weeks ago and she ignored me. She started watching today and loves it.

Basically, a show where everyone is an actor except for one person who thinks it’s a legit trial. And that one person is a good, entertaining guy.
@mcmurtry66 have you watched it? Sorry.. too lazy to scroll through all of the posts.
 
No I will. I’m almost caught up with vanderpump rules and will need something to binge
Omg where do we start with VPR. Wife loves that stuff. James Kennedy is DJing in Denver and I feel like I should buy tix as a Mother’s Day present.

And the cheating scandal..
 
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No I will. I’m almost caught up with vanderpump rules and will need something to binge

Omg where do we start with VPR. Wife loves that stuff. James Kennedy is DJing in Denver and I feel like I should buy tix as a Mother’s Day present.

And the cheating scandal..

I can hardly even believe how good it is.

That Raquel is somethin else. Man she’s trouble.

@Univee2 @BradStevens @Bulk VanderHuge @zeke4ahs @UncleMark

Ok, I know McM has had it rough but this stuff predates even that. We're either gonna need a ruling or an intervention here. Maybe both.

do we have any 3 strike laws
 
@Univee2 @BradStevens @Bulk VanderHuge @zeke4ahs @UncleMark

Ok, I know McM has had it rough but this stuff predates even that. We're either gonna need a ruling or an intervention here. Maybe both.

do we have any 3 strike laws
I’m getting out some of the ‘68 dope. I don’t know what any of this stuff means. Gonna sit here on the front porch, after just finishing the trimming around the yard and before mowing the back half of the back, and let the zen take me back to Linda Ronstadt and The Stone Poneys. Carry on.
 
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I’m getting out some of the ‘68 dope. I don’t know what any of this stuff means. Gonna sit here on the front porch, after just finishing the trimming around the yard and before mowing the back half of the back, and let the zen take me back to Linda Ronstadt and The Stone Poneys. Carry on.
An appropriate recusal.
 
Quick recommendation if it hasn’t already been posted. Watch “Jury Duty” on Amazon Prime.

Binged it one night when I couldn’t sleep (baby). Told my wife it was worth watching a few weeks ago and she ignored me. She started watching today and loves it.

Basically, a show where everyone is an actor except for one person who thinks it’s a legit trial. And that one person is a good, entertaining guy.
It took me a couple episodes but now I’m all in. Roger has to be wondering how he got stuck with these crazies, and what an a$$ James Marsden is. The crutches chair…. Lol
 
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Has anyone seen Babylon? I have reservations about recommending as it was to over the top at times trying to explain the problems some of the silent film stars had in transitioning to sound, but it was interesting at least to me.

Margot Robbie played the Clara Bow role. Clara was ridiculed mercilessly in "Singing in the Rain" but was the biggest star in Hollywood and you never hear anything about her other than the unfortunate rumor that she slept with the entire USC football team.

From: "Singing in the Rain"



Here's a good article about Clara and how her career ended at the age of 28; she really was wonderful comedic actress:


Brad Pitt played the John Gilbert role, and his career was never the same after sound and died at the age of 38.

Anyway, if you haven't seen Babylon you may enjoy it depending upon your mood; it's over 3 hours in length but it helps to know it was based upon real people.
 
BREAKING NEWS!!!!! I'VE REACH A CONCLUSION
Direct Tv stream is the way to go. Local stations. Discovery. History. Everything. Price on par with the other streaming. It's the winner over youtubetv, fubo, hulu live, sling.
 
BREAKING NEWS!!!!! I'VE REACH A CONCLUSION
Direct Tv stream is the way to go. Local stations. Discovery. History. Everything. Price on par with the other streaming. It's the winner over youtubetv, fubo, hulu live, sling.
Why is it better than YoutubeTV?
 
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